Immodesty and the lack of respect for women - two sides of the same coin.

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Most young Catholic/Christian girls nowadays do dress inappropriately. That’s a fact. I am speaking about teenagers and young adults. I’ve seen them engage in the dress of the culture quite commonly. I am acutely aware raising 9 boys.

I would not use that comment to say “we’re damned if we don’t” regarding leaving more to the imagination. Modest dress is better, period. There’s no debate.

Sleazy dress is what serap described and she seemed proud of it. **I commented on that. I didn’t read all the posts, don’t know how she dresses now. ** **How on earth could I be judging her presently - I only read the one comment by her. **
Immodest dress doesn’t belong in church, ever. Modest dress is always better and more appropriate. Women who dress with tight, revealing clothes look sleazy - whether they consider themselves that or not. I’m surprised a no-brainer has elicited such a long conversation.
This has been a long conversation, and there are many of us, including Serap and myself, who have been participating from the very beginning. This is not just a yes or no answer, this is a discussion about the challenges we face, as Christian women and men, in our immodest culture, what we can do about it personally, how we can respond to others charitably when we see someone making a mistake. We also have discussed how even modestly dressed women will get disrespected (after all, reread the title of this thread, as it implies that immodesty is the only thing that invites disrespect…not true at all in reality). There are also various levels of modesty. Some people choose to have a peculiar style of dress (peculiar in the good way) in order to stand out and make a statement about modesty for Christ’s sake. While others choose to find the most modest pieces of clothing available from national retailers, which often include female trousers and use of layers in order to provide coverage. These are both positive ways to live out our faith, but nevertheless, invites much discussion and analysis.
So before pointing fingers at any post or any poster’s comments, taking things out of the context of a tremendously long discussion, perhaps you could set aside an afternoon to wade through the topic. Otherwise, it would be most charitable to refrain from posting. After all, those of us who are posting here have taken the time to truly engage the other participants and understand each other’s stance. Thank you.
 
Most young Catholic/Christian girls nowadays do dress inappropriately. That’s a fact. I am speaking about teenagers and young adults. I’ve seen them engage in the dress of the culture quite commonly. I am acutely aware raising 9 boys.
So because there are young teens and women dressing inappropriately, the rest of us who have dressed appropriately need to somehow provide some sort of atonement for their sins? I can’t speak for the ones who do, nor should anyone be expected to. I daresay, if more people paid more attention to the people who did dress modestly and praised that instead, a lot of the indirect purposes and reasons for immodest dress could be reduced. I’ve talked to lots of women and they admit that one reason why they dressed immodestly was because of the attention. And attention is attention, no matter if it’s negative or positive.
I would not use that comment to say “we’re damned if we don’t” regarding leaving more to the imagination. Modest dress is better, period. There’s no debate.
You misunderstand the context of my statement. Modest IS better and in no way was I arguing against that. However, if modesty is to be the standard we as Christians should strive for, not only in terms of self-respect, but also to avoid presenting stumbling blocks to men, why is that phrase so popular? And furthermore, suggesting that modesty allows someone to allow their imaginations run wild is quite contrary to the point of modesty. Part of the negative attitudes toward modesty involve such statements as “covering up leaves more to the imagination,” because it also implies that no matter how much a woman covers up, there is going to be some man out there finding an excuse to undress her with his eyes. If views like THAT could be eliminated, a lot of the problems associated with modesty wouldn’t exist.

Also the suggestion that this topic is a “no-brainer” is insulting at best considering the fact that many of us have discussed the various aspects associated with modesty which are beyond the simple issue of “sleeveless versus long-sleeved.”
 
I think MotherNoRest’s name sums it up. She is a mother with no rest and I think she’s feeling exhausted from raising 9 boys. Sometimes when we feel very exhausted, we can then become resentful for our exhaustion and then begin feeling internal anger. It’s then that we begin to lash out at others for no real reason.

I have been there this year with the exhaustion of 2 young children (DD is high needs and DS is not a very good sleeper at times).

I can see where MotherNoRest is coming from. It’s not an excuse for being “mean”, but it’s a good reason. I think MotherNoRest needs some rest and perhaps a weekend getaway to a nice spa with a couple of girlfriends.
 
I think MotherNoRest needs some rest and perhaps a weekend getaway to a nice spa with a couple of girlfriends.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could all join her? I could really use a chance to rest like that, but instead I’ll be preparing for labor. But then I’ll get all that wonderful time to put my feet up while nursing a new baby, so that’ll put me in the best mood ever!!!
I agree that MotherNoRest must be feeling really frustrated and exhausted with trying to raise her boys in a secular, sex-obsessed world. Keep up the good work, MotherNoRest! You are making an amazing difference, not only in the lives of your sons, but for in the world for Christ’s sake. My MIL once gave my husband a beautiful birthday card that said “My son is my monument.” I think that pretty much sums up the vocation of a mother raising up good men. And it has become even harder to do it in a Godly fashion. Don’t become discouraged, MotherNoRest! And know that you DO have allies here, even if you initially thought that some of the posts were about flaunting immodesty.
 
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could all join her? I could really use a chance to rest like that, but instead I’ll be preparing for labor. But then I’ll get all that wonderful time to put my feet up while nursing a new baby, so that’ll put me in the best mood ever!!!
I agree that MotherNoRest must be feeling really frustrated and exhausted with trying to raise her boys in a secular, sex-obsessed world. Keep up the good work, MotherNoRest! You are making an amazing difference, not only in the lives of your sons, but for in the world for Christ’s sake. My MIL once gave my husband a beautiful birthday card that said “My son is my monument.” I think that pretty much sums up the vocation of a mother raising up good men. And it has become even harder to do it in a Godly fashion. Don’t become discouraged, MotherNoRest! And know that you DO have allies here, even if you initially thought that some of the posts were about flaunting immodesty.
My husband is at a cottage with some of his friends this weekend. He left early this morning…I was really alloof with him last night b/c I hate the fact that I never get a break and he does. I’m feeling a little resentful myself.
 
Three comments from a middle-aged man:
  1. I went to high school in the late 1970s. Girls wore a preppy look; the kind of dress now regularly worn by high school girls would have immediately earned them the “s-l-u-t” designation by the girls who were my classmates. The fashion now is to LOOK that way. Ask yourself: why is this?
  2. If you read about this topic on this forum, time and again you see reference to men having a built-in visual interest in scantily dressed women. Like it or not, however it is explained (Darwinian evolution or custom), it really exists. Men enjoy looking at naked women or women with revealing clothing. We have to treat this as a fact.
  3. I disagree with the whole “push it off as the man’s fault” argument. It’s a two-way street. Men need to be aware that they CAN actively control their eyes, and women should not dress like the town bicycle.
 
Three comments from a middle-aged man:
  1. I went to high school in the late 1970s. Girls wore a preppy look; the kind of dress now regularly worn by high school girls would have immediately earned them the “s-l-u-t” designation by the girls who were my classmates. The fashion now is to LOOK that way. Ask yourself: why is this?
  2. If you read about this topic on this forum, time and again you see reference to men having a built-in visual interest in scantily dressed women. Like it or not, however it is explained (Darwinian evolution or custom), it really exists. Men enjoy looking at naked women or women with revealing clothing. We have to treat this as a fact.
  3. I disagree with the whole “push it off as the man’s fault” argument. It’s a two-way street. Men need to be aware that they CAN actively control their eyes, and women should not dress like the town bicycle.
This is what we’ve all been saying though 🤷 The OP made it sound purely like it was just the woman’s problem and that’s where the other arguements came in.
 
I don’t think these are two sides of the same coin, but rather overlapping issues. I think that to see them as two sides of the same coin gives too much room to everyone for making unacceptable excuses.

It is not that men have to “control their eyes” in terms of “don’t think that.” You can’t “not think” something…the famous example, of course, being that you can’t comply when someone says, “Don’t think of an elephant.” What men have to do, rather, is to replace the unacceptable with the positive: That is, when they start seeing a woman as an object of gratification, they need to substitute the realization that this is a person for whom the Lord thirsts. That body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, or else it is meant to be. Would they covet a huge basilica with vaulted ceilings as an indoor sports arena? God forbid, and not even if someone were to encourage them by installing Astroturf! Then they should not covet what belongs to God to exploit for themselves in the case of a woman, either. Remembering what the basilica is, they would find the Astroturf offensive. Seen in this way, it will not matter much to the man whether it is the girl herself or someone else who is showing her disrespect. He will object to it, either way. He won’t use the disrespect she gets from anyone as an excuse to hold her in a lower regard himself. He himself will want the Astroturf pulled up, because he doesn’t want anyone forgetting what a basilica is for. All a man has to do is remind himself what God’s opinion of the woman is, then, and he will have his marching orders. If he is a man, well then: Semper Fidelis. You do what you have to do to remain faithful, even if it means avoiding basilicas where abuses and neglect are tolerated or encouraged.

Likewise, even if she did it by the underwear she chose, something no one else could see, a woman needs to regard herself as a Temple of the Holy Spirit and act accordingly. It does not matter if everyone treats her with respect, regardless of what she wears. She needs to also give that respect to herself. She can never make it into someone else’s work, or blame her failures on pressures from outside. Her body is temple, and it needs to be honored accordingly, without fail, without making excuses. If she treats her body in a way that is like installing Astroturf in a basilica, she has to realize that she would denigrate every church by doing it, as well, whether large or small, new or old, splendid or simple.

As for those who are blind to the relationship between respect for a Temple and the care with which the temple is adorned and the behavior allowed with respect to it, let us admonish and educate in compassion. We’re all a work in progress, and this is a good work. A great many mixed signals have been sent. If it is clear that respect for the body and love of neighbor is intimately connected, then the expectation of modesty will be a sign of esteem, not subjugation. OTOH, if we denigrate those who fail to show modesty, we are violating that the very thing that modesty is intended to achieve. We must also plainly do the work out of zeal and love for the temple, and not let it be thought that we are merely spoil sports.
 
I don’t think these are two sides of the same coin, but rather overlapping issues. I think that to see them as two sides of the same coin gives too much room to everyone for making unacceptable excuses.

It is not that men have to “control their eyes” in terms of “don’t think that.” You can’t “not think” something…the famous example, of course, being that you can’t comply when someone says, “Don’t think of an elephant.” What men have to do, rather, is to replace the unacceptable with the positive: That is, when they start seeing a woman as an object of gratification, they need to substitute the realization that this is a person for whom the Lord thirsts. That body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, or else it is meant to be. Would they covet a huge basilica with vaulted ceilings as an indoor sports arena? God forbid, and not even if someone were to encourage them by installing Astroturf! Then they should not covet what belongs to God to exploit for themselves in the case of a woman, either. Remembering what the basilica is, they would find the Astroturf offensive. Seen in this way, it will not matter much to the man whether it is the girl herself or someone else who is showing her disrespect. He will object to it, either way. He won’t use the disrespect she gets from anyone as an excuse to hold her in a lower regard himself. He himself will want the Astroturf pulled up, because he doesn’t want anyone forgetting what a basilica is for. All a man has to do is remind himself what God’s opinion of the woman is, then, and he will have his marching orders. If he is a man, well then: Semper Fidelis. You do what you have to do to remain faithful, even if it means avoiding basilicas where abuses and neglect are tolerated or encouraged.

Likewise, even if she did it by the underwear she chose, something no one else could see, a woman needs to regard herself as a Temple of the Holy Spirit and act accordingly. It does not matter if everyone treats her with respect, regardless of what she wears. She needs to also give that respect to herself. She can never make it into someone else’s work, or blame her failures on pressures from outside. Her body is temple, and it needs to be honored accordingly, without fail, without making excuses. If she treats her body in a way that is like installing Astroturf in a basilica, she has to realize that she would denigrate every church by doing it, as well, whether large or small, new or old, splendid or simple.

As for those who are blind to the relationship between respect for a Temple and the care with which the temple is adorned and the behavior allowed with respect to it, let us admonish and educate in compassion. We’re all a work in progress, and this is a good work. A great many mixed signals have been sent. If it is clear that respect for the body and love of neighbor is intimately connected, then the expectation of modesty will be a sign of esteem, not subjugation. OTOH, if we denigrate those who fail to show modesty, we are violating that the very thing that modesty is intended to achieve. We must also plainly do the work out of zeal and love for the temple, and not let it be thought that we are merely spoil sports.
CAF is very lucky to have you!
 
  1. If you read about this topic on this forum, time and again you see reference to men having a built-in visual interest in scantily dressed women. Like it or not, however it is explained (Darwinian evolution or custom), it really exists. Men enjoy looking at naked women or women with revealing clothing. We have to treat this as a fact.
  2. I disagree with the whole “push it off as the man’s fault” argument. It’s a two-way street. Men need to be aware that they CAN actively control their eyes, and women should not dress like the town bicycle.
Yes and many of us have mentioned that there are other various factors which also play into this. What about the women who can’t help having the figures they have, and even when dressing modestly men regard them as grilled veal? Many of us can’t help having larger bustlines or hips or behinds. I see men look at women with these figures and comment with “child-bearing hips,” and “nice handles,” and “nice rack” to say the least. (Hopefully I am not violating a TOS, I am using these as examples to illustrate). I remember wearing a long-sleeved, loose, high-cut blouse even when the weather was warmer several years ago and a guy who was interested in me couldn’t stop looking at my chest and couldn’t stop asking me what my bra size was! Ugh!

Faithfully’s example is also illustrative of the overlap with this issue. On one hand women are told that they need to look like women and wear dresses and be feminine and blah blah-- but when a woman finally does that, she is ogled like a piece of meat. I once read on a fashion blog about how a woman working in a chemistry lab for her graduate program would go into work wearing nice, professional, and feminine clothes but would receive comments about why she looked so trashy, who she was going to sleep with that night, etc.–all from men. So now she has regressed to wearing t-shirts and jeans, even though her attire before was appropriate for work.

That’s why I take such offense to the statement “women should cover up more, it leaves more to the imagination.” It implies that no matter how modest a woman dresses, a man is going to find some excuse to undress her with his imagination. Why should a woman’s modesty make ANYONE want to wonder what’s under her clothes??? If anything we should be teaching those who are immodest “hey I don’t think we really want to see that-- cover up please.”

The issue of modesty is many-fold and goes beyond a simple two-way street and we need to acknowledge the fact that modesty issues also make us look at deep-seated issues about the value of women and how women have been perceived for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. Yes it’s true that many women now are perpetuating those same views for whatever their reasons are, but despite that fact immodesty is immodesty. So how do we deal with it in a way which is practical, teachable, and fosters cohesiveness in a Christian community? Because I can tell you playing the blame game has gotten us nowhere.
 
Spunjalebi -
I have really appreciated so much of what you have had to contribute to this discussion. It is obvious that you have done some deep thinking about this issue. Your most recent post is very thought-provoking, I can assure you. Thank you!
 
Thanks mommamaree:)

I come from an other-cultural view where I was raised that modesty meant different things, and wearing a churidar didn’t mean you were immodest. I will admit that as a convert, one of my biggest frustrations has been witnessing how so many Christians view these issues as part of a vacuum, and forget how people from our Church in other communities would respond. Not to mention, the near hysterical response to women’s bodies is an undertone to this issue. I’m sure some people know about this, but I found out that when Jessica Simpson was young and singing, she was snubbed by Christian labels and often was discouraged from singing solos at her church because of her body figure–having larger breasts-- despite the fact that she was modest. Her behavior now isn’t indicative of having a modest past in any way but that’s what I’ve observed about this issue. If we don’t foster healthy views about modesty and good communication, we often send young Christian women going off to the opposite direction because many of the views posted here have been judgmental.

I have a cousin who is a struggling Christian and used to dress modestly in the past, but for a while resorted to wearing tight, ill-fitting, and low-cut clothing. When someone commented on her clothing taste and how she should cover up more, she retorted with “why? 'cause I know you’re still gonna have something to say about my body anyway.”

Sometimes I think Islamic girls who follow hijab have it sooo much easier than Christian women.
 
Thanks mommamaree:)

I come from an other-cultural view where I was raised that modesty meant different things, and wearing a churidar didn’t mean you were immodest. I will admit that as a convert, one of my biggest frustrations has been witnessing how so many Christians view these issues as part of a vacuum, and forget how people from our Church in other communities would respond. Not to mention, the near hysterical response to women’s bodies is an undertone to this issue. I’m sure some people know about this, but I found out that when Jessica Simpson was young and singing, she was snubbed by Christian labels and often was discouraged from singing solos at her church because of her body figure–having larger breasts-- despite the fact that she was modest. Her behavior now isn’t indicative of having a modest past in any way but that’s what I’ve observed about this issue. If we don’t foster healthy views about modesty and good communication, we often send young Christian women going off to the opposite direction because many of the views posted here have been judgmental.

I have a cousin who is a struggling Christian and used to dress modestly in the past, but for a while resorted to wearing tight, ill-fitting, and low-cut clothing. When someone commented on her clothing taste and how she should cover up more, she retorted with “why? 'cause I know you’re still gonna have something to say about my body anyway.”

Sometimes I think Islamic girls who follow hijab have it sooo much easier than Christian women.
my cousin used to be very modest and was married at age 22. she is now 44 and left her husband out of boredom. now she dresses very immodestly and sleeps around. my other cousin even told me that my immodest cousin sometimes skips her period b/c she doesn’t eat enough to stay slim and pretty.

IMO…I can’t see how my cousin could possibly be happier now prancing around in sexy clothes and sleeping with men. She appears to be happy, but I think she’s really filling a void.

At my wedding 4 years ago, she was dancing like a stripper for the video camera. it’s now on my wedding video and I thought, “what a foolish woman!” She looks silly. She was 42 years old at my wedding and yes, she’s drop dead gorgeous, it still looks silly when a fully grown woman acts like that.

My cousin is the sweetest person you could ever meet, but she has become completely self-absorbed in the last decade. I don’t know what happened to her!!!
 
my cousin used to be very modest and was married at age 22. she is now 44 and left her husband out of boredom. now she dresses very immodestly and sleeps around. my other cousin even told me that my immodest cousin sometimes skips her period b/c she doesn’t eat enough to stay slim and pretty.
Did she say that? She was bored? How sad. FYI, if a woman is missing her period due to not eating enough she’s underweight, not slim. She’s anorexic. She has a disease. Which makes me think her issues are great. She has body image issues. And probably needs help.
 
Did she say that? She was bored? How sad. FYI, if a woman is missing her period due to not eating enough she’s underweight, not slim. She’s anorexic. She has a disease. Which makes me think her issues are great. She has body image issues. And probably needs help.
her husband had a job related accident and he’s now unable to work. she got a great job with the BBC (England) and her job is editing and she meets all kinds of big wigs and goes to a ton of parties.

after a while of her husband not working and she going to all kinds of parties, she grew bored of her husband and they split up recently. i think she was cheating on him too.

he was so afraid of losing her that he put up with it for years b4 she left him
 
her husband had a job related accident and he’s now unable to work. she got a great job with the BBC (England) and her job is editing and she meets all kinds of big wigs and goes to a ton of parties.

after a while of her husband not working and she going to all kinds of parties, she grew bored of her husband and they split up recently. i think she was cheating on him too.

he was so afraid of losing her that he put up with it for years b4 she left him
Oh… so very sad.
 
Immodesty and the lack of respect for women - two sides of the same coin.

Respect for women in this country is at an all time low, and much of that is because of the way they dress, Going shopping, to class and even to Sunday Mass, in a t-shirt, jeans or shorts, does nothing to enhance the dignity of a woman. Women dress the way they do today because someone, over half a century ago, decided they wanted to dumb down America, and convincing people to be less concerned about how they dress is one way of doing it.

Our society today suffers from an acute lack of critical thinking skills, and there is a definite connection between the way we dress and how we think. If we dress like slobs, we soon begin to think like slobs. No discipline of body – no discipline of mind. This situation did not come about by accident, but was a well orchestrated plan to help destroy our Christian society. In her book "Dressing With Dignity”, Colleen Hammond explains this point in detail.

In her article, “The Dignity of True Femininity”, Dr. Anne Marie McDonnell also illustrates the extent of the problem. She says: *“For a woman to live according to Catholic teaching in today’s society she needs heroic virtue. Every form of media, including television, movies, magazines, books, computers, music, and theater all assault women’s human dignity, often portraying her in a pornographic manner as an object of lust." *

Women need to understand that men react differently than women in regards to modesty. Mrs. Hammond discusses this phenomenon in her book. The following quote illustrates the point.

*”Women must learn that men are “wired” differently and the way a woman dresses can have a definite impact on how a man reacts to her. As an example, if a man is watching a TV talk show or interview, and sees a modestly dressed woman sitting on a chair or couch and she is wearing a dress or skirt that extends several inches below the knees, she is viewed as a total woman and the mans concentration is on her, as a complete person, and on what she is saying or whatever her purpose is for being on that particular show.

However, if you take the same woman and shorten her skirt so that it is two or three inches above the knees, then the man perceives her in a different manner, more as a sexual object. He no longer views her as a whole person worthy of respect. Instead, he sees her as a collection of parts, with some parts drawing more attention than others. This sexual “evaluation” all takes place in split second in the brain, but has the effect of distracting the man from what she is saying, because her appearance is sending a different message. And the more immodest the manner of dress, the greater the distraction.

Even if they are full length and not tight fitting, a pair of slacks on a woman has the same psychological effect of dividing her up into parts”.
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I would therefore encourage women to reconsider the manner in which they dress, and also the manner in which they dress their young children. How often do we see, even at Sunday Mass, young girls dressed in skimpy outfits, thus accustoming them to immodesty at a very early age.

And, as a side note, I should, at least, mention the disgraceful display of immodesty exhibited by brides and their bridal parties an most Catholic weddings today. Recently, at such a wedding I attended, the comment was made that the bride and bridal party looked more like the Playboy Review than an occasion of “Holy” matrimony.

In conclusion, I would offer a challenge to any woman who reads this article. For two or three weeks, get rid of the t-shirts, slacks and old tennis shoes and wear a long skirt and nice blouse, or dress, and dress very feminine and ladylike (but not extravagantly), and notice how you are treated by other people, men especially.

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So if men automatically are drawn to looking at the vertical lines that lead right up the legs of a woman wearing pants, do men also look that way at other men?? It seems like if their brain is wired to look “at the lines”, it wouldn’t matter what the gender was that was wearing the pants…if that’s the case, put men in robes and togas like in biblical times so men won’t be looking at other men…since apparently they can’t avert their eyes.😉

I did your little challenge of wearing long feminine dresses and skirts for a while…and got more whistles and cat calls than I did when I was wearing modest dress pants…
 
Immodesty and the lack of respect for women - two sides of the same coin.

In conclusion, I would offer a challenge to any woman who reads this article. For two or three weeks, get rid of the t-shirts, slacks and old tennis shoes and wear a long skirt and nice blouse, or dress, and dress very feminine and ladylike (but not extravagantly), and notice how you are treated by other people, men especially.

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I’ve done this before and I did notice a huge difference. I haven’t read the whole thread yet, just the OP so far (I can imagine it getting pretty heated though!), but I know that when I wear dresses and skirts men are much more respectful.

I don’t think that pants are inherently immodest, or that dresses are inherently more modest, just that men tend to react more respectfully when I’m in a modest dress than when I’m in modest pants.

It’s frustrating how hard it is to find modest dresses these days though. I just found a modest dress shop that I love called Christa Taylor and it’s closing! It seems like dresses in malls and in stores are always either low cut of too short. I did sew a denim wrap skirt that’s good for day to day wear when I’m doing chores.

The funniest thing I found after my month of dresses was that I felt uncomfortable when I wore pants after not wearing them for a month! That was one side effect I didn’t expect.

Right now I’m trying out another month of dresses and it’s going well. It helps that I only own one pair of pants (non-pajama at least) that fits!
 
I’ve done this before and I did notice a huge difference. I haven’t read the whole thread yet, just the OP so far (I can imagine it getting pretty heated though!), but I know that when I wear dresses and skirts men are much more respectful.
Unfortunately this is unique to everyone.

Before my husband and I were married, I wore very feminine skirt and top outfits which could best be described as “girly-girl.” These outfits were very modest. However, it wasn’t until after my husband and I had been together and I began to incorporate more t-shirts, jeans, etc. that he commented on how he would notice the way other men would eye me like a piece of meat. It really bothered him because we would often be walking around together holding hands for goodness sakes! Yet it still didn’t seem to stop these men from looking.

I also used to work for a fine retailer and part of the dress code was wearing either a 3 piece outfit with a suitcoat or sportscoat, or wearing a skirt with a nice blouse or shirt. I would often wear the skirt outfits because I didn’t have a suitcoat. I can remember how many of the men who would walk by my register would whistle at me, stare, and call me “beautiful” though I doubt that’s what they were really thinking. I can remember leaving my shift and walking out, and a guy who was a woman (I’m assuming it was his girlfriend) stopped to look at me and even turned around to watch me walk away! I was wearing a skirt which went below my knee and a blouse my MOTHER had purchased for me!

There was another girl I worked with who was from eastern Europe (she had an accent) and also Christian, and she dressed modestly as well. She was also very pretty and was exotic looking, with very dark hair and porcelain skin. Men whistled at her and catcalled at her way more than they did me, especially after they would hear her speak (probably thought her accent was nice, who knows). I remember taking her aside and asking “how do you deal with this? what do you do?” She looked at me with resignation and sighed and said “there’s nothing you can do. You just have to do your job and ignore it.”

Then there are the women who mistakenly believe modesty means dressing like a lumberjack (no offense to anyone). I can recall talking to a young woman when I first started going to my university about a church fellowship group and she and I got into a conversation about modesty. She told me that she disliked the way some of the girls in the group dressed, because they wore skirts and dresses which attracted the attention of the men in the group even though not all of those girls wore low-cut, tight, or short outfits. She personally believed in dressing simply, and wore a crew neck t-shirt with jeans everyday because in her opinion, it didn’t give guys an excuse to wonder why she was dressed so feminine and what she was doing hiding underneath such clothing.

It just goes to show that the ONLY person we should be dressing modestly for is GOD and no one else. We can bend over backwards to please the whims of others and take on any “challenges” people propose, but the truth is there’s just as many sinful people with even more sinful attitudes as there are people who do the right thing.
 
One of the main purposes for dressing modestly is not to cause trouble for people who are opposed to being tempted, and the innocent.

These people are a different category than those who want to be tempted and do what they can to be.
 
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