Impeach Trump?

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GEddie said:
The more extreme parts of the Trump program (the wall, killing Obamacare, rescinding NAFTA) would not survive under Pence. That would be a win for them.

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Hmmmm…I would think of Pence being more “Republican” than Trump. But I admit, I’m clueless about politics, I do not follow much.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Tweeting misinformation and outright lies to the American people should be an impeachable offense.

My guess is that there are many Republicans who want to impeach Trump as well as Democrats.

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Tweeting misinformation & lies to Americans is not & should not be an impeachable offense.

There needs to be solid evidence of a crime.

Impeachment should NOT EVER be used because someone doesn’t like the President.

I would never want to see any President, even the worst President in US history, impeached without legitimate criminal charges.

Impeachment for political reasons will mark the end of our nation.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
I’m not a liberal, but just for the record, it’s not clear that “high crimes and misdemeanors” has to mean an actual violation of the criminal code that you could go to jail for in the normal world. It can mean almost anything Congress wants it to mean.
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No, it does not. “high crimes and misdemeanors” are crimes. A misdemeanor is a legal term. A high crime is typically viewed a felony, but since each state and the federal govt have different felonies, the term “high crimes” is used because some high crimes may be felonies in one state, but not in another.
 
Impeachable? I think every president can be impeached given a strong enough will. Removal from office? Not a chance. Resignation? Even less of a chance.

The push for impeachment has a two fold objective. 1. To delegitimize and make impotent the executive branch. And two, it’s the 2018 midterm strategy, a push or impeachment that fails is what the democrats are hoping for. To campaign on anything except thier platform or issues. With most of the states against thier platform, taking both or any houses of congress based on thier platform is non existent.
 
laylow said:
If he is impeached, it means the Vice takes over, correct? How does that help the Democrats?
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No it does not.

If Trump is ever impeached, it means there is a trial.

The House would select some Representatives to be the prosecution.
The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court would act as the Judge
The entire Senate would act as the Jury, requiring 2/3rd to convict.

Only if convicted, is the President removed from office and the Vice President sworn in as President.
 
Xystus said:
If the Dems take the House in 2018, Trump Will be impeached, even if they have no evidence of Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors (which can be whatever the impeachers say it is). I doubt there would be a 2/3 majority in the Senate to remove Trump from office but I would bet money on him being impeached with a Dem majority House.
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This would be a lot of people’s prayers being answered. I look forward to posting the prayer request on CAF and prayers of thanksgiving for the incoming 2018 reps who will take the necessary steps to protect our republic from further shame, scandal and continued obstruction of justice. :gopray2:
 
randomuser said:
This would be a lot of people’s prayers being answered. I look forward to posting the prayer request on CAF and prayers of thanksgiving for the incoming 2018 reps who will take the necessary steps to protect our republic from further shame, scandal and continued obstruction of justice. :gopray2:
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If the democrats do takeover the house, I can’t think of a better use of their time than to impeach Trump.
 
randomuser said:
This would be a lot of people’s prayers being answered. I look forward to posting the prayer request on CAF and prayers of thanksgiving for the incoming 2018 reps who will take the necessary steps to protect our republic from further shame, scandal and continued obstruction of justice. :gopray2:
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Wow, praying for Trump’s demise became Catholic doctrine so gradually, I barely noticed.
 
philipl said:
Clinton should have been removed from office as he lied under oath.
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Over extramarital relations. Ken Starr should be ashamed of himself for dragging this country through all those nothingburgers - it’s not like Clinton ever dared to fire Ken Starr. You would all be screaming bloody murder if that would have happened. ****** fires the people investigating him and nobody blinks. 🤷
 
ucfengr said:
You mean the issues Trump ran on? And for that matter, with respect to Obamacare, the issue every Republican ran on?
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I’m not sure that killing Obamacare was the all-Republican issue, but yes, when a POTUS leaves, his program normally does not survive.

Especially after an impeachment, the successor would try to distance from his ejected predecessor.

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randomuser said:
Over extramarital relations. Ken Starr should be ashamed of himself for dragging this country through all those nothingburgers - it’s not like Clinton ever dared to fire Ken Starr. You would all be screaming bloody murder if that would have happened. ****** fires the people investigating him and nobody blinks. 🤷
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I actually agree with some of what you wrote.
  1. Clinton should not have been removed from office.
  2. If Clinton fired the people involved there would be uproar.
However blaming star for dragging the country through that is ridiculous.
And it wasn’t “nothing burgers” it just wasn’t something that required removal, which the process worked to the correct conclusion.

I detest Clinton. I am not a fan of him, her or thier politics. I don’t like them even on a personal level. They harmed the country. But I don’t think the crime rose to the removal of office level. Much like Capone, I think this was an attempt to get them for one crime because of the inability to get them on others.

For the record I think Clinton, Bush, and Obama, are responsible for the disproportionate power of the executive branch right now.
 
GEddie said:
The more extreme parts of the Trump program (the wall, killing Obamacare, rescinding NAFTA) would not survive under Pence. That would be a win for them.

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Repealing Obama care is not extreme.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
There is nothing in Church teaching that says one may not pray for Trump’s impeachment.
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Very true. I prayed daily for obama’s removal.
I believe in the power of prayer, but mostly it just served to calm me down and put it in God’s hands in my mind do to speak.
If it makes those who are scared of, dislike, or disagree with Trump, feel better, great! Go for it!

And I say that as a Trump fan, supporter, voter, and someone who prays for his success!
 
randomuser said:
This would be a lot of people’s prayers being answered. I look forward to posting the prayer request on CAF and prayers of thanksgiving for the incoming 2018 reps who will take the necessary steps to protect our republic from further shame, scandal and continued obstruction of justice. :gopray2:
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I would much rather see him repent and amend his life than to find he did something that crossed the line of legality so seriously that he deserves to be removed from office.

Removing him from office without extremely good evidence of criminal wrong-doing will be received by many of our countrymen as a political coup d’état. We really need to avoid that.

Some of us remember that the effects of Watergate lasted a lot longer than a politically crippled Nixon Administration would have. If we have to go there, we should have the courage to do it, but let’s not go there again if we don’t have to. That would be lunacy.
 
And when the next dem gets in, we can impeach him/her! American will remain frozen and single handedly cure global warming! N O T !

If Bill Clintons out right lies and improprieties failed go earn a full impeachment, nothing Trump has done will rise to that level. Knock yourselves out looking, just quit wasting my tax dollars on it!
 
Republican strategy here should honestly be, let them punch themselves into exhaustion. I mean it’s how Rocky defeated the Russians and Ivan Drago.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Don’t you think that would depend on “why”?
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I suppose if I prayed for someone to fabricate evidence to impeach Trump then that might be morally problematic. But if one thinks that based on the evidence now, that Trump is guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors” then there is no moral problem in praying for his impeachment. Obviously one can debate whether or not he has committed an impeachable offense.
 
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