Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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McConnell is patently seeking to hide the case from Americans. I think he is going to suffer a political price unless he changes. There is no way to justify hiding witnesses like Bolton.
 
Why are you asking me to do that? I will wait. This is not a criminal proceeding.
 
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Ridgerunner said:
Go ahead and tell us what laws Trump has broken. Citation to the U.S. Code would be helpful.
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It is so sad to see so much emphasis on this red herring. The founders were very clear in what they considered “high crimes and misdemeanors”. And violation of the US code was not the point at all. So the call for a citation is smoke and mirrors in the absence of a cogent defense. Weak.
 
Your party will invent a reason to impeach Pence just as it did with Trump. A Pence presidency would not save the market because it would be short-lived. The Democrats would not tolerate him and would phony up an impeachment against him even faster than they did with Trump.

No, if you are in the market and if you really believe you’re going to get rid of Trump either by impeachment or in the 2020 election, you had better sell out well in advance.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Pence is, if anything, even more prolife than Trump, so you’ll impeach him too because you won’t want him appointing another Supreme Court justice.
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What the heck! Do you think this is about that? No, it’s about an unfit President abusing his power.
 
Maximus1 said:
McConnell is patently seeking to hide the case from Americans. I think he is going to suffer a political price unless he changes. There is no way to justify hiding witnesses like Bolton.
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Americans overwhelmingly want the testimony of Bolton et al.
The calls for peremptory dismissal are a manifestation of fear among the Trump stans.
 
PaulinVA said:
What the heck! Do you think this is about that? No, it’s about an unfit President abusing his power.
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Some might actually believe that. But the Kavanaugh hearings proved otherwise, though you’ll deny that too. If my party embraced abortion, I guess I would be in denial as well, or try to be, as difficult a task as that would be.
 
This red herring blew up and is no longer political cover for the GOP. That 1990’s video of Dershowitz blew it up
 
Ridgerunner said:
Your party will invent a reason to impeach Pence just as it did with Trump. A Pence presidency would not save the market because it would be short-lived. The Democrats would not tolerate him and would phony up an impeachment against him even faster than they did with Trump.
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The Trump impeachment isn’t an invention, but rather a result of Trump using his office to extort the Ukrainian government to investigate his political opponents by withholding funds earmarked by Congress. Was Pence involved in this crime as well? I don’t know if that was clearly established.
Ridgerunner said:
No, if you are in the market and if you really believe you’re going to get rid of Trump either by impeachment or in the 2020 election, you had better sell out well in advance.
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Again, why does the market need a corrupt president to be going up? It used to go up under presidents that weren’t corrupt.
 
And it is SO OBVIOUS! MANY DO NOT FOLLOW the particulars. But they do know hiding witnesses happens when you fear what they will say. And the GOP is in elaborate, ornate, hiding mode.
 
drcube said:
I guess it’s necessary to make excuses for the corrupt President they elected
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Yes that’s what I just said - you’re making excuses for Obama

Why are you defending him colluding w Putin?
Why are you defending him spying on journalists?
Why are you defending him giving guns to Mexican drug cartels?
Why are you defending him using IRS to target political opponents?

You’re embarrassing yourself
 
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Maximus1 said:
What do you consider sucking up?
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In your Trump impeachment, sucking up means asking foreign country for help with official DOJ investigation

Far less than your Democrat Senator Murphy who wrote letter to Ukraine threatening to withhold aid if Ukraine didn’t help Mueller “eliminate a political opponent”
 
Ridgerunner said:
Some might actually believe that. But the Kavanaugh hearings proved otherwise, though you’ll deny that too. If my party embraced abortion, I guess I would be in denial as well, or try to be, as difficult a task as that would be.
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Kavanaugh? He was simply a deeply flawed individual who should have withdrawn his nomination.

Any Republican President would have been able to appoint two Supremes, so don’t argue that Trump is some genius because he is packing the Federal Courts with unqualified candidates.

One problem with Trump supporters is they think Trump is doing things that other Republicans would not have done. That is simply not true. Rubio or Jeb or my favorite, Kasich, would have been able to appoint those Justices and judges, and would have championed many of the same policies.

You know, Trump, but without the craziness and corruption.
 
You already conceded this is sham since you said Murphy letter ok since pursuant to “official DOJ investigation”
 
drcube said:
The Trump impeachment isn’t an invention, but rather a result of Trump using his office to extort the Ukrainian government to investigate his political opponents by withholding funds earmarked by Congress.
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The parties deny it, of course. Trump and Zelensky are the real “witnesses” and both deny that any pressure was put on Zelensky. That’s a shame, really. When the Vice President of the U.S. interferes in the administration of justice in a foreign country using aid as a cudgel, it should be rigorously investigated. But the Dems are good at creating a diversion like this impeachment farce.
 
Aquinas11 said:
Your defense of corrupt Obama while laughably pretending to know what corruption means
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Uh huh. This is the argument you want to go with. Deflecting to another President and comparing apples and oranges while proof-texting and making insulting comments. Okay then. Have at it.
 
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