Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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Trump didn’t assert privilege at all. He simply said no compliance of any kind with subpoenas and no witnesses may testify.
Name a Defendant who can do that.
Answer…A Defendant/ King
 
Or a president who is being impeached and congress people want to subpoena his closest confidential advisers.

As you know, Clinton did the same thing, but congress challenged him on at least some of them. He won some and lost some. But in any event, that’s a matter for the courts, not congressmen. The congress people are adversary parties and you, counselor, above all, should know that.
 
He blanket ordered they not show up.
He blanket refused to provide documents.
Clinton didn’t do the same thing.
Before the Clinton trial, he provided 90 thousand documents and the witnesses. Before a grand jury.
 
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No you already said anything not identical to impeachment (Obama) is off topic
I said no such thing
Let’s try to follow forum rules
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False. Lots Constitutional scholars who disagree with this notion you are trying to put forward. The Constitution is clear treason, bribery, or high crimes and misdemeanors - which amount to those crimes similar of treason, bribery.
Can you find a Consotutional lawyer who writes this kind of stuff. If so, please provide a link.
It doesn’t say no crimes are impeachable or one can be impeached on subjective intent
The founders talked clearly about abuse of the public trust and of the office. It is just the sort of miscondict that Trump involved himself in that they feared.
Do they? Or do they attempt to manipulate it?
Illuminate it.
You can structure a poll to get it to say just about anything you want it to.
You could if you had a clientele that wanted that - Otherwise you are not long for the business.
@dvdjs has taken many opportunities to provide a distortion of the truth to me. I simply do not agree with the leftist version of distorted “truth”.
What I posted, in fact, was the House brief on impeachment that fully answers the questions that you specifically asked. It is appropriate
to talk about that as a distortion of the the truth.
Subpoenas get challenge daily for many different reasons in courts.
You might like to read the House report. Or the repose to Trump’s lawyers brief. Trump’s in effect took actions to put himself and his administration fully outside of the reach of Congress. It want’s a matter of contesting a subpoena or claiming privilege here or there. These arguments are smoke.
 
The founders talked clearly about abuse of the public trust and of the office. It is just the sort of miscondict that Trump involved himself in that they feared.
Yes in reference to treason, bribery, and like high crimes and misdemeanors. They were very specific. They didn’t say no crimes are impeachable.
 
You might like to read the House report. Or the repose to Trump’s lawyers brief. Trump’s in effect took actions to put himself and his administration fully outside of the reach of Congress. It want’s a matter of contesting a subpoena or claiming privilege here or there. These arguments are smoke.
You might want to read what they said yourself. The arguments on the subpoenas are exactly because they were illegitimate and not issued during formal proceedings as well as the right to EP and privileged confidential information.
 
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Start with Dershowitz.
He is known as a defense lawyer. Has he taught Constitutional law at Harvard?
I realize that he has made a defense lawyer’s argument about the issues of “high crime and misdemeanor”, but that is what defense lawyers do. In particular, if you cannot argue the facts, argue the law. So let’s start with someone who is not a defense lawyer on the case, but a real Constitutional law expert, then please provide a link to the argument so that its cogency can be assessed.
The arguments on the subpoenas are exactly because they were illegitimate
The defense lawyers made some arguments that were soundly rebutted as specious by the house managers. That rebuttal is linked in the thread.
 
He is known as a defense lawyer. Has he taught Constitutional law at Harvard?
I realize that he has made a defense lawyer’s argument about the issues of “high crime and misdemeanor”, but that is what defense lawyers do. In particular, if you cannot argue the facts, argue the law. So let’s start with someone who is not a defense lawyer on the case, but a real Constitutional law expert, then please provide a link to the argument so that its cogency can be assessed.
Dershowitz is a constitutional law scholar. That’s not something just any defense lawyer is, you understand that don’t you?
 
As well as Mark Levin.He is also a Contitutional scholar and served in the Regan Administration.He has clearly stated what the Dems pulling is an egregious act against the Constitution and cheapening of a serious act of impeachment.
 
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The defense lawyers made some arguments that were soundly rebutted as specious by the house managers. That rebuttal is linked in the thread.
The law as well what the high court has said is clear on subpoenas, and obstruction of justice in regard to actual legitimate subpoenas.

Trump and his team clearly said they would go to the Article III branch with any subpoenas. That is our system, and most people all know that. The House majority chose that was going to take too long, and they were in a hurry, so they didn’t go there. I don’t think at all that anyone is seriously suggesting it’s an obstruction of justice other than rhetoric.

It shouldn’t be viewed as an obstruction of Congress either unless Congress just has, again, unchecked power in a system that’s so rich with checks and balances, as we learn in school. Maybe they mean obstruction of Democrats? Are we talking about the entire Congress, or are we talking about the Democrats in the House of Representatives? The Senate is also part of the Congress, so it’s not even technically accurate to say obstruction of Congress either.
 
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Schiff: “The evidence presented during House investigation was overwhelming”

Schiff: “There is VITAL evidence from these witnesses that MUST be heard”

If the evidence during House investigation is “overwhelming” how can Dems still have “vital” evidence yet to be heard? And this is the Dems LEAD

What a joke
 
It is overwhelming
But
Newly obtained evidence makes the case more overwhelming.
Pretty simple
 
The Dems want something to complain about when the Senate does not convict. This is all just Democrat campaign propaganda at this point, at taxpayer expense.
 
You are aware documents were subpoenaed I hope.
Trump refused any response at all. Ordered they be ignored.
 
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