In fundraising speech, Trump says he made up trade claim in meeting with Justin Trudeau

[Ridgerunner]

See, you say you understand the metaphor but then in the next sentence say there is a comparison to a pig.

These two things are mutually exclusive. I don’t know if you’re suffering from a victim complex or what… I don’t know how to deal with people who just want to be contrarian.

(idiomatic) To give things of value to those who will not understand or appreciate them.

Synonyms

preach to deaf ears

You’ll notice there’s nothing in the phrase that has anything to do with actual pigs. There isn’t even a value judgement beyond perhaps judging someone for not appreciating said pearls.

Ah, the Democrat progressive way. Insult someone; compare him to a pig, then refuse to acknowledge that you did. Then when called out for it, accuse the person of some kind of mental defect for not agreeing with you.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Makes me wonder how much Nixon knew before he decided to take the historical step of dropping the gold standard based on the trade “deficit.”

I’m no lover of Nixon. I was a Dem at the time. But I imagine he knew the U.S. didn’t have nearly enough gold to cover U.S. trade deficits if foreigners decided to convert.

 

[Rhubarb]

Them’s some good alternate facts, bro.

 

[ProVobis]

Did we really have a trade deficit in 1970 or just take Nixon’s word for it?

I need to do some research on this.

 

[dvdjs]

Ah, the Democrat progressive way

Ah, whose way is this? Take insult, however tendentiously, from an individual. Apply the insult as characteristic of a whole class of people.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Ah, whose way is this? Take insult, however tendentiously, from an individual. Apply the insult as characteristic of a whole class of people.

You have never once apologized for any insult or rude remark you delivered to me or to any other person who is not of your political persuasion. A person on here compares me to swine and all you can do is defend the insult.

Maybe the level of discourse will improve on CAF one of these times, but it hasn’t yet.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Them’s some good alternate facts, bro.

Oh no. You really said it. And you know you did.

 

[dvdjs]

You have never once apologized for any insult or rude remark you delivered to me

Like Rhubarb, I am mystified by the comments that you take as insult. I am surprised, in this case, that you resurrect a dead metaphor and insist, against direct protests to the contrary, that you were compared to a swine. I am truly sorry that you take insult. …

I think that the method of taking one posters remarks and applying them to whole categories of posters has no merit. Who should understand that the baseless generalization is being applied to them? Who should respond? Should it let alone to fester and pollute?

 

[sallybutler]

To get back to the subject of the thread:

“The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis says the United States actually has a trade surplus of US$7.7-billion with Canada. The Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) – the agency charged with renegotiating NAFTA – calculates the United States’ advantage as being even greater, at US$12.5-billion. According to the USTR, Canada runs a surplus in the trade of goods but the United States more than makes up for it with a surplus in the services sector.”

Trump boasts he made up trade facts in meeting with Trudeau

President admits he ‘had no idea’ whether statements he made about a trade deficit were true

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Ridgerunner]

Like Rhubarb, I am mystified by the comments that you take as insult. I am surprised, in this case, that you resurrect a dead metaphor and insist, against direct protests to the contrary, that you were compared to a swine. I am truly sorry that you take insult. …

Someone calls a conservative a swine and that’s perfectly okay. Obviously, you’re not sorry at all, and neither is the person who called me that.

How very liberal.

I have been called worse by better people. It’s just mildly surprising to see someone on CAF defend someone calling some other poster a swine. And it’s even more so when that same person overtly claims moral superiority over others in the site.

 

[dvdjs]

Someone calls a conservative a swine and it’s perfectly okay

It is not. I don’t like it at all when people call others names, I don’t like it when people call others haters. I don’t think that that is OK. I don’t like it when people call others liars, at least without a proper inquiry into intentionality,

But I didn’t see anyone call anyone a swine. I am sorry if I missed it.

 

[Ridgerunner]

It is not. I don’t like it at all when people call others names, I don’t like it when people call others haters. I don’t think that that is OK. I don’t like it when people call others liars, at least without a proper inquiry into intentionality,

But I didn’t see anyone call anyone a swine. I am sorry if I missed it.

I think you know the saying. Just because he didn’t complete it and say the word changes nothing. The meaning is clear.

Regardless, you take offense when you think a liberal has been insulted, but not when you think a conservative has. I get it.

 

[dvdjs]

Regardless, you take offense when you think a liberal has been insulted, but not when you think a conservative has. I get it.

You get it wrong.
I object to name calling and insult, period.
I also object to people pretending to be fouled in hockey, soccer, basketball, and on this forum.

 

[Rhubarb]

The meaning of the idiom has nothing to do with literal swine. You said you knew what a metaphor is… Do you? This is the kind of ridiculous garbage that muddies discourse.

I can’t tell if you’re being intentionally obtuse, stubborn, or you really and truly don’t understand. Or if you just don’t care and are hoping to repeat nonsense enough times that people lose patience and stop fighting about it.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I can’t tell if you’re being intentionally obtuse, stubborn, or you really and truly don’t understand. Or if you just don’t care and are hoping to repeat nonsense enough times that people lose patience and stop fighting about it.

False choice.

I understand completely. I have no desire to repeat it even once more, just so you know.

 

[Ridgerunner]

No surprise here! Trump pretty much makes it up as he goes along. So far he has had a free ride due to the prosperity and peace created by the 8 Obama years, but he (like Bush 2, who squandered the peace and economic gains of the Clinton years) will screw it up (probably much worse than Bush) and once again it will take s Democrat to fix things

To fix what? Obama borrowed and spent a lot of money, took away a lot of peoples’ healthcare coverage, shifted the cost from one part of the middle class to another, gave rich people a car subsidy, and promoted abortion.

None of that “fixed” anything.

So far, Trump has lowered taxes, pretty much driven ISIS out of the Middle East, repealed a lot of needless regulations, increased the jobs, added hugely to stock market values, appointed a prolifer to the Supreme Court and reinstated the Mexico City Policy.

Will some Dem in the future “fix” those things by again aiding terrorists, imposing regulations, extending a recession and appointing pro-abortion justices? Probably.

 

[ProVobis]

Again any other Republican could have done that.