In what ways can Protestants accept papal primacy today?

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JonNC said:
Including the Bishop of Rome, no Bishop has authority over another, unless they choose to be.
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Show me any depiction, any statue, any painting, anything that shows anyone else holding the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven other than Saint Peter. Every schismatic and heretic will say all Bishops have the keys and yet nothing in patristic times proves that claim. Every schismatic and heretic wants to have the Keys and be Catholic, yet they don’t dare point to their own ‘church’.
JonNC said:
The plane meaning of the canon. The plane meaning means no, not reaching back with “developments”.
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There is no plain meaning without the Tradition that properly interprets its meaning. Your tradition dates back 500 years, 1000 at best.
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Apparently the other patriarchates disagree.
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The EO patriarchates? Weird that they would disagree.
 
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AugustTherese said:
Show me any depiction, any statue, any painting, anything that shows anyone else holding the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven other than Saint Peter. Every schismatic and heretic will say all Bishops have the keys and yet nothing in patristic times proves that claim. Every schismatic and heretic wants to have the Keys and be Catholic, yet they don’t dare point to their own ‘church’.
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Matthew 16: And I Tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 18 using plural “You” to the disciples: Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am among them.

John also applies this to the wider group of the apostles: Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.
 
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AugustTherese:
Show me any depiction, any statue, any painting, anything that shows anyone else holding the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven other than Saint Peter. Every schismatic and heretic will say all Bishops have the keys and yet nothing in patristic times proves that claim. Every schismatic and heretic wants to have the Keys and be Catholic, yet they don’t dare point to their own ‘church’.
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Matthew 16: And I Tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 18 using plural “You” to the disciples: Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am among them.
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And, Matthew 16 uses the Greek singular ‘you’ when Our Lord gives the keys only to Peter. Show me a statue or painting from the first 1,000 years where anyone else is depicted holding the keys.

You also have yet to define Semi-Pelagianism since you claim I hold to those views.
 
AugustTherese said:
Show me any depiction, any statue, any painting, anything that shows anyone else holding the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven other than Saint Peter. Every schismatic and heretic will say all Bishops have the keys and yet nothing in patristic times proves that claim. Every schismatic and heretic wants to have the Keys and be Catholic, yet they don’t dare point to their own ‘church’.
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Every bishop has the keys. Every priest exercises the keys under his bishop.
AugustTherese said:
There is no plain meaning without the Tradition that properly interprets its meaning. Your tradition dates back 500 years, 1000 at best.
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This is a dodge, a polemical deflection at best.
AugustTherese said:
The EO patriarchates? Weird that they would disagree.
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No it isn’t. The Roman see disagreed with them. It was mutual, and both have equal responsibility for the Schism that impacts all of us.
 
AugustTherese said:
And, Matthew 16 uses the Greek singular ‘you’ when Our Lord gives the keys only to Peter. Show me a statue or painting from the first 1,000 years where anyone else is depicted holding the keys.
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Matthew then uses the plural. Christ gives the keys first to St. Peter. the keys are then given to the disciples, and then the Universal Church by which the bishops all employ them.
Statues or paintings? Really? This is now the determining factor for universal jurisdiction?
The fact that Christ first gives the keys to St. Peter doesn’t mean he has universal jurisdiction.
 
JonNC said:
Christ gives the keys first to St. Peter. the keys are then given to the disciples, and then the Universal Church by which the bishops all employ them.
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Show me where Christ gives the Keys to anyone but Peter.
 
Why should I show you a statue or painting when I can provide scripture? Is that where you derive your doctrine from? It explains quite a bit.
 
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Hodos said:
Why should I show you a statue or painting when I can provide scripture? Is that where you derive your doctrine from? It explains quite a bit.
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Because your tradition of interpreting Scripture is inaccurate. That is why you do not see any depiction of anyone else being given the keys or holding the keys, but only Saint Peter.
 
Or, the artwork you are referring to came about at a time when the papacy had developed into something resembling what you have now. (Medieval or Renaissance timeframe).
 
Hodos said:
Or, the artwork you are referring to came about at a time when the papacy had developed into something resembling what you have now. (Medieval or Renaissance timeframe).
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It represents the exact Scripture you referenced in Matthew 16. Because, as Matthew 16 explicitly states, Our Lord gives Saint Peter the Keys, nobody else.
 
Yep. I guess we just throw all those other passages away. We didn’t need Matthew 18 or John 21 anyway.
 
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