Intelligent Design, Edward Feser's views

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My whole reason for participating is to search for the entire truth which includes areas beyond what science can say. You have painted yourself into the corner.

Materialism a : a theory that physical matter is the only or fundamental reality and that all being and processes and phenomena can be explained as manifestations or results of matter (see 1matter 2) scientific materialism

Do you reject materialism?
 
Bradskii said:
An uphill battle to get you to answer simple questions? Yes indeed. And the simple question was:

Give any example at all of anyone trying to explain evolution to you that says that it disproves God. Any post from any thread at any time. Whenever you are ready you can link to it. Or admit that no-one has done so.

Your whole raison d’etre for the junk you post is meant to be a bulwark against this claim. So back it up.
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@Buffalo Bradskii’s request is quite valid as you’ve painted the false dichotomy of God or evolution. You deflected his question by asking he’s materialistic. That’s a bit ad hominem.
But that said, I have the same request he made. And I’m Catholic so that should tell you I believe in God.
 
buffalo said:
My whole reason for participating is to search for the entire truth which includes areas beyond what science can say. You have painted yourself into the corner.

Materialism a : a theory that physical matter is the only or fundamental reality and that all being and processes and phenomena can be explained as manifestations or results of matter (see 1matter 2) scientific materialism

Do you reject materialism?
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So that would be a no. As in ‘No, I have no examples whatsoever from any post on any thread in the entire forum at any time whatsoever where someone has tried to use evolution as a means to prove that God does not exist’.

So it does make one wonder exactly why you persist in exhibiting your ignorance. It’s not supporting the existence of God in any way. From my point of view, and likewise from not an insignificant number of Catholics, you are holding up your religion to ridicule.

I will ask again though:

Do you have any examples of anyone on this forum using evolution as a means to disprove God?
 
Bradskii said:
Do you have any examples of anyone on this forum using evolution as a means to disprove God?
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I have been posting for many years. Yes, there have been. No I am not going to try to search through the vast database.

So, do you reject materialism? A yes or no will do.
 
buffalo said:
Most times.
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That’s something where I’d like to point out an inconsistency in your logic. You’re okay with natural processes making mountains but the God has to step in for species.

Whereas my view is that God made creatures and mountains through His natural processes and that His processes do what they need to without extra gumption. ie He can make the animals we see today through evolution because He already had the process able to do so. And so when science sees the evidence of evolution, they see how He worked.
 
buffalo said:
I have been posting for many years. Yes, there have been. No I am not going to try to search through the vast database.
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Okay let’s make it easier. Who in this thread is using evolution to deny God?
 
mVitus said:
That’s something where I’d like to point out an inconsistency in your logic. You’re okay with natural processes making mountains but the God has to step in for species.
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God could step in to prevent speciation since it is a loss of function once had. He could restore the function

Did God know what Adam would look like?
 
mVitus said:
Okay let’s make it easier. Who in this thread is using evolution to deny God?
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Seriously, this is thread number what in this evolution series in the last few months that have gone to 2000 posts.

Dawkins among others used evolution to disprove God for years.
 
buffalo said:
God could step in to prevent speciation since it is a loss of function once had. He could restore the function

Did God know what Adam would look like?
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1: Speciation isn’t a loss. It’s a change. Land animals may have lost gills to breath in water. But they’ve gained lungs that can work in air. Remeber that the mutations which thrive in a population are the ones that are better for the environment.

2: Ominsicience = yes. And an honest question to you: Why do so many six day creationists ask that? Is it some “ace in the hole” of a kind? Because I still don’t get why it’s asked.
 
buffalo said:
Seriously, this is thread number what in this evolution series in the last few months that have gone to 2000 posts.

Dawkins among others used evolution to disprove God for years.
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Dawkins isn’t in this thread and I don’t see anyone bringing him up other than the literal creationists. He’s a moot point.
Just name a person from a recent thread. Just someone. One name.
 
mVitus said:
2: Ominsicience = yes. And an honest question to you: Why do so many six day creationists ask that? Is it some “ace in the hole” of a kind? Because I still don’t get why it’s asked.
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Did Adam look as God planned?
 
Does 2+2=4?

If you didn’t see my answer, look at the end of the post.

And to be fair, I asked you a simple question too that you haven’t answered.
 
Ever hear how evolution makes atheists intellectually fulfilled?

You cannot be so out of the loop to not hear top atheists use evolution arguments to disprove God.

The God Delusion? The Selfish Gene? Scientists who were religious until they studied evolution and then became irreligious. Hitchens? C’mon…
 
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mVitus said:
Does 2+2=4?

If you didn’t see my answer, look at the end of the post.

And to be fair, I asked you a simple question too that you haven’t answered.
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I take that is yes, Adam looked as God had planned.
 
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