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Before you go any further: If young earth creationism is true, how does that affect your life? How does it affect the way you relate to God? What changes?
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The only way it would change is that I’d be able to go to the church I’ve liked the most, where I’ve met people and am starting to make friends. That would be the Lutheran LCMS church. Other than that, nothing would change.
 
Do you feel like your place there is really jeopardized if you don’t agree with them? Does it come up that often?
 
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Do you feel like your place there is really jeopardized if you don’t agree with them? Does it come up that often?
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No. It just really bothers me. I want to be in agreement with whichever church I choose.
 
Hope1960 said:
I want to be in agreement with whichever church I choose.
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Then why dismiss the Catholic Church? You can believe either YEC, or Big Bang, Evolution, etc., or even flip back and forth if that is what you want; the Church doesn’t require either belief.
 
whatistrue said:
Then why dismiss the Catholic Church? You can believe either YEC, or Big Bang, Evolution, etc., or even flip back and forth if that is what you want; the Church doesn’t require either belief.
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Because in more recent years I was unhappy there. And really bored.

And I don’t agree with the CC teaching on artificial birth control, not that that’s a personal issue for me anymore (menopause and hysterectomy).

I met with the facilitator of the class I’m taking at the Lutheran Church and she was right about one thing…the same thing my husband told me…I’m never going to find a church that I agree with 100% on all things. If I found a church that expects that, it would be more of a cult.
 
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Hope1960 said:
Because in more recent years I was unhappy there. And really bored.
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I don’t want to be rude or mean, but it seems to me that such a state of affairs is more a reflection on you and how you handle the situation than on the Church. You can either accept the Church as it is, or reject it. In either case, I don’t think that I can add anything useful any more, so I am bowing out.
 
whatistrue said:
I don’t want to be rude or mean, but it seems to me that such a state of affairs is more a reflection on you and how you handle the situation than on the Church.
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I know, and I’m not blaming the Church.
 
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By leaving it, in effect you are saying that the Church is wrong. That sounds like blaming the Church to me.
 
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because the Pastor said I had to go through RCIA (which I am currently doing) rather than be examined and admitted to full communion individually.
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Your profile says you have no religion currently and are investigating. Looks to me like we’re pretty much in the same boat.
 
Not really. I am not bouncing from place to place looking for something that I won’t find anywhere. As for the profile, I simply haven’t updated it yet.
 
The Church teaches unequivocally that God created all things. It’s a matter of how. Now, the so-called creationists do not take Genisis literally, they just claim to. If they did, they would have to choose between one of the two versions of creation given in Genesis. Or they would have to accept a version of the universe that plainly does not exists (eg the firmament of the sky) or that God created the plants before the sun and moon.

Now, for a version of creation that aligns with Genesis and science very well, you can study those site:

http://www.thomisticevolution.org/
 
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In our series of articles on the biological echo of the Ark’s existence, we’ve seen tremendous scientific confirmation of everything the Bible speaks to on this topic. Evidence from geneticsand from Darwin himself argues for the recent origin of species. In addition, comparison of various genetic clocks to one another illuminates the fact of God’s frontloading of the various kindsat creation with the potential for speciation. These facts also simultaneously explain why massive—but limited—speciation can occur on a short timescale. All of these data together lead to testable scientific predictions that put the evolutionary and old-earth creation models to shame.

However, surveys of the professional scientific community in the United States show that the overwhelming majority reject creation and accept evolution—97% or more.1 Why don’t more scientists accept what we’ve proposed?>>>>>>>>>>>>>

According to this, they think it’s a combination of ignorance and uncooperation.
 
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Hope1960 said:
I’m never going to find a church that I agree with 100% on all things
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I keep hearing people say similar, but do not understand.
How hard is it to be in agreement with the church on matters of faith and morals?

If you know of some area you disagree in, how can you participate in Holy Eucharist?
Are we not called to be 100% in agreement before we can receive?
 
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vz71 said:
keep hearing people say similar, but do not understand.
How hard is it to be in agreement with the church on matters of faith and morals?

If you know of some area you disagree in, how can you participate in Holy Eucharist?
Are we not called to be 100% in agreement before we can receive?
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I don’t know but if that were the case, I wouldn’t have been a Catholic from my teen years on (though i did leave the church for many years for other reasons, mainly boredom) because I’ve always disagreed on the birth control issue.
 
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Hope1960 said:
And really bored.
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I was thinking about this last evening and an analogy came into my head that might help me to make a point:

You should not go to church to be entertained, but to be fed (spiritually). Some people find meatloaf and mashed potatoes to be boring. Some people like the look and taste of a big fancy cake or sundae. Which of those two is going to nourish and sustain you? The dessert may be exciting and tasty, but has essentially zero nutrition; the meatloaf may be boring, but it will sustain you much better.

And as far as agreeing with a particular church 100%, isn’t that part of the attitude that caused so much division among Christians in the first place? You don’t have to agree totally, as long as you can accept that the Church has the authority to decide such things and assent to following the teaching. If you don’t believe that the Church has that authority then that is a different discussion.
 
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