Is anyone else annoyed at how much Protestants stress Jesus?

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JohnDeereFan said:
You have to remember that we believe that ALL scripture is equally inspired. If the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write his letters, then that means that they are just as much the word of God as Jesus’ words in the Gospels.

By the way, am I the only one who finds it a little distrurbing that we’re three pages into this thread and not one Catholic has objected to the OP’s statement that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are the same person?
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That’s because they are not the same Person.

And, to the OP, who should the Protestants stress? Pan the Goat God? Vishnu? Uncle Sam?
 
Forgive my misunderstanding of the Trinity. I guess I was taught it wrong:(. I’m not saying that Protestants are wrong to stress Jesus as much as they do, it’s just that I don’t understand why the ones I know don’t talk about God more.
 
TheWhoFreak said:
Forgive my misunderstanding of the Trinity. I guess I was taught it wrong:(. I’m not saying that Protestants are wrong to stress Jesus as much as they do, it’s just that I don’t understand why the ones I know don’t talk about God more.
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Honestly? Ask those individuals, if you can. The more grace I receive, I guess, the more I want to know why the Protestants don’t stress the Holy Spirit as much, personally…
JohnDeereFan said:
So then why did no Catholic object? Why did it take three pages and an infidel to point it out to you before you even noticed it?
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I didn’t pay attention enough to object, initially. I cannot answer for other Catholics.

Who’s the Infidel?
 
TheWhoFreak said:
Look, I haven’t a clue as to how you can justify these ludicrous accusations. I am simply stating my opinion on a matter and asking people what they think about it. YOU on the other hand are vilifying me and trying to make me look like some self-righteous “holier than thou” person who thinks he’s better than everybody.:mad: Well let me tell you something Christalone, I see YOU as the one who’s self-righteous and “holier than thou”! That’s right, I said it! YOU are the person who has
  • Cast aspersions on my humility
  • condemned me for exercising my 1st Amendment rights
  • Taken offense to something THAT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE OFFENSIVE!!!
Seriously, what’s your deal? Are you just trying to **** me off and get under my skin? Or are you being for real and saying that I am a self-righteous jerk.
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I am being quite real! Your question was rude, offensive, and degrading.
 
Wouldn’t it be nice that instead of “stressing Jesus” and debating what each other believes about him and debate about his “nature”, we would begin to emulate him and “be Jesus” for one another by living out his love toward each other and partake of his nature? “By this shall all men know you are my disciples…that you love one another.”

I’d rather “see a sermon” than “hear a sermon” about Jesus. How about all of you?🙂
 
I grew up in an overwhelmingly Fundamentalist Protestant area, and I heard it a lot, and still do. Maybe being used to it makes it non-annoying.

Now, if a person is trying to sell me something and throws His name around a lot in the course of it, I go into “100% resistance mode”.
 
BernadetteM said:
Actually I have seen the complete opposite in some circles of protestants. If you have ever watched TBN or gone to some protestant churches I have more than not heard the speaker or minister say “Father God” over and over again. They seem to offer up their intentions more to Father God than Jesus. Also I don’t recall God referred to as “Father God” in the Bible.
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Matthew 6 ? The Agony in the Garden ? Romans 8 ? The fatherhood of God even appears in the OT.​

I don’t recall the sentence “Mary is the mother of the Incarnate Word” - that does not mean that she is not; it means only that the proposition does not appear in synthetic form, but has to be constructed from the NT data. Which is true of most doctrines: they have to be assembled from a galaxy of texts in order to be stated as fully as the Biblical evidence allows.

BTW - NT prayer is to God the Father: see the prayers in the letters of St. Paul.
It is probably different in each of these churches. I think AOG churches and non denominational churches do this more than the more orthodox protestant churches.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
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JonNC said:
:rolleyes:
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😦 & :mad: & :eek: - the temptation is to respond in kind.​

It might be interesting to see how people would re-act if someone were to argue against prayer to Jesus, in favour of prayer to Mary instead; I’m sure there would be some to agree. The ***sin ***of prayer to Christ ? - interesting idea…

What possible objection can there be to prayer to Jesus - is it, that such a practice is not peculiar to Catholicism ? But if Catholicism defines itself by being “not Protestant”, it is:
  • doing itself enormous damage
  • cutting itself off from other Christians -
    • & so, starving itself.
For a Church to stand apart like that is to imitate the elder brother in Luke 15. 😦
 
TheWhoFreak said:
I hope this doesn’t offend anybody, but something I’ve noticed about Protestants is that they have a slightly warped view of Jesus. I’m not saying that their God is different than the Catholic’s God

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**Culture shapes mind. **

But the truth of the matter is that what we really have is the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of man.
All over the world. Same God, One God. Same Human Race, same species, homo sapiens sapiens. 👍
 
“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;” Philippians 2:9-10
 
Publisher said:
Wouldn’t it be nice that instead of “stressing Jesus” and debating what each other believes about him and debate about his “nature”, we would begin to emulate him and “be Jesus” for one another by living out his love toward each other and partake of his nature? “By this shall all men know you are my disciples…that you love one another.”

I’d rather “see a sermon” than “hear a sermon” about Jesus. How about all of you?🙂
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I think what the OP was trying to say was that the problem isn’t the stressing Jesus, it’s the leaving the Father and the Holy Spirit in the background. When most people, not just Protestants, talk about God, they tend to make Jesus Christ the ‘star of the show’, forgetting that the Father and the Holy Spirit are God as well.
As for being Jesus instead of debating Him, that sounds all well and good, but how do you be Jesus for someone when you are unsure of who Jesus really is? Debating is a good way to get the wheels turning in your head, to come right out and ask yourself why you believe what you believe and are you really believing the truth. Once we know who we are being and why, we can truly be Jesus for one another.
However, if you claim you believe something in CAF and then go out and contradict your beliefs with your actions, well, I’m sure you realize what Jesus taught about hypocrites. I would love to “see a sermon” instead of hearing it. But on CAF I can only read them. 😛 As St. Francis of Assisi said, “Preach Christ, and when you must, use words.” This is one of the instances when you must. 🙂
 
a_priori said:
“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;” Philippians 2:9-10
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Amen!!! But let’s not forget the Father and the Holy Spirit, okay?

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit! As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen. :signofcross:
 
=Gottle of Geer;5315484]## 😦 & :mad: & :eek: - the temptation is to respond in kind.
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Yeah, I was trying to not respond in kind to the back-handed slap at Luther. Perhaps I should have let it go completely. :o
It might be interesting to see how people would re-act if someone were to argue against prayer to Jesus, in favour of prayer to Mary instead; I’m sure there would be some to agree. The ***sin ***of prayer to Christ ? - interesting idea…

What possible objection can there be to prayer to Jesus - is it, that such a practice is not peculiar to Catholicism ? But if Catholicism defines itself by being “not Protestant”, it is:
  • doing itself enormous damage
  • cutting itself off from other Christians -
    • & so, starving itself.
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For a Church to stand apart like that is to imitate the elder brother in Luke 15.

I think you make some good points here. As the Op pointed out, Lutherans tend to pray to God in ways similar to that of Catholics. I have no issue with the way others pray (though *for me *it sounds awkward when some use the direct address “Lord” or “Jesus” numerous times within a prayer). The fact that we all pray to the Trinity should be unifying, not dividing. It is a distinction without a difference.

Jon
 
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