Is being Fat considered gluttonous?

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Good point. Maybe “I have fat” would be a better way to put it. That would cover all of us who aren’t actually starving!
 
“Vonsalza said:
…then you should just be ok with being fat, right?
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I am ok with being fat. When I was thin, men looked at me as a sex object rather than as a person. Now they look at me as a human being rather than an object. I prefer this.
 
Whether or not a person who is fat is gluttonous must be decided on a case by case basis. For example, I used to be fat (there are some who say I still am haha) when I was younger because I loved eating dessert and I ate candy, chocolate, and ice cream numerous times throughout the day. In my case, I was a glutton. But some people are fat because of disorders or genes, in which case it is not to be considered gluttonous.
 
Someone who’s currently overweight but is currently on a diet wouldn’t be considered gluttonous-they’re just still suffering from the effects of previous gluttony.
 
redbetta said:
Also, I saw the word fat phobia on this thread. It’s not a thing. It’s a concept made up by people who insist that everyone else has a problem.
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Excuse me, but yes it is a thing. I have experienced it myself an uncountable number of times.
 
Tell you what: we can bring back scarlet letters, so everybody has to display sins publicly, not just fatness.

Or we could just all mind our own beeswax.
 
Yes, the remedy would be for people to stop judging fat people and developing phobias about fatness.
 
Or take personal responsibility for their health and stop inventing phobias. Honestly, invoking this kind of SJW rhetoric keeps people from taking one seriously.
 
Again, though, you’re making a correlation that does not necessarily go, and that’s doubly worse because you’re applying it as a judgment to others you don’t know.

Fatness is not necessarily a signal of sin (and even if it is, how do you know that person hasn’t repented or working on it?). Thinness is not necessarily a signal of virtue.
 
Man I hope not. Anyway I’m going with Jesus saying it doesn’t matter what food we eat what matters is what comes out of our heart.
 
I’ve said in a previous post that thin people can be gluttons too. I was just floored at how many excuses people are making on this thread for leading an unhealthy lifestyle. I’m sorry, but this stuff makes me furious as someone who was raised by parents that were too lazy to teach me how to live healthy. If I can do it, most people can.
 
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Man I hope not. Anyway I’m going with Jesus saying it doesn’t matter what food we eat what matters is what comes out of our heart.
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Yeeeeeaaaahhhhh…

I don’t think that’s what He was saying there…
 
As if it wasn’t fun enough to have Protestants, atheists, Muslims ef al judging us, now we got the skinny people? Oh joy!
 
pensmama87 said:
Again, though, you’re making a correlation that does not necessarily go, and that’s doubly worse because you’re applying it as a judgment to others you don’t know.

Fatness is not necessarily a signal of sin (and even if it is, how do you know that person hasn’t repented or working on it?). Thinness is not necessarily a signal of virtue.
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The truth seems to be some uncomfortable place in the middle.

We should not judge individuals. But as a whole, obesity is largely an issue of self control. Most of them DON’T “have a thyroid issue”.

And it has very real consequences. Individual anecdote aside, heavier people are more physically limited, they encounter more illness, more prone to heart disease, cancer. They don’t live as long. They make healthcare more expensive on the macroeconomic level.

So be kind to heavier people. But it’s good and noble to show your kids a heavier person waddling down the street and then tell them “do what you can to NOT be like that” because most of those folks are there due to their choices.

I remember climbing all the stairs at the temples in Nara, Japan last October. Just scores and scores of stone steps.

No escalators for the heavier folks.
 
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redbetta said:
Or take personal responsibility for their health and stop inventing phobias. Honestly, invoking this kind of SJW rhetoric keeps people from taking one seriously.
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What is SJW?
You’re obviously taking me seriously enough to converse with me… I wasn’t the one who invented fat phobia, judgemental thin people did.

What makes you think fat people don’t take responsibility for their health? That’s fat phobia right there.
 
Vonsalza said:
But it’s good and noble to show your kids a heavier person waddling down the street and then tell them “do what you can to NOT be like that” because most of those folks are there due to their choices.
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Yikes, sorry, no, I would not do that, and I don’t think it’s noble.

I’ve been fat. It stinks being fat. It stinks knowing that everybody can see that you’re fat. It stinks knowing that the stuff you think in your head about yourself is the same stuff everybody else thinks about you, and maybe even say to their children about you.

I don’t mind talking in generalities when it comes to public health. But we’re talking sin. Sin is personal.
 
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