Is cultural marxism just a myth or conspiracy theory created by right wing conservatives?

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And a wage that pays enough to do more than float.

I ain’t scared of hard work. I’m scared of never being able to retire because I live in entry-level wage Hell.
 
ChunkMonk said:
I’ve been told to check my privilage by college students before and I would kill for a factory job. Factory job… Lol. Most of us work entry level wage-Hell.
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Yes and that’s the mentality to have. Work hard and you will succeed, as I intend to. I don’t want millions, I just want enough to live decently and debt free.
 
Call it what ever you want to call it. Let me phrase it differently. You can have 100% of government control or 0% of government control. Now list underneath the 100% place all the names of government types that go there. Under the 0% list any government system or lack of that would go here. There is no left VS right. You can place every form of government on 100% or towards it with the exception of two. Anarchy goes on the 0% and there are some places where Anarchy active. The second is a Republic, the rule of law. Can and does lead to 100% of government control. Our founding fathers gave us a republic for a reason. A republic creates liberty. All others will sooner or later create slavery to a government.
 
I am not sure there is a single unifying feature, but I am inclined to agree that cultural marxism is not an adequate identifier.

About 10 years go Philip Treavor gave a speech at Lancaster Cathedral Hall and St. Thomas More Institute, tracing the path(s) forward from the Enlightenment through the French Revolution to today. I will see if I can pull up something. It is a bit of a long read - about 15 pages - but I think it under girds much of what has been happening in North America and Europe.
 
It exists, is real, and is a threat to our civilization. Just turn on the TV or read thr news and you can see it.

Pray for the end of cultural marxism.
 
As noted, I am not convinced that cultural marxism is a correct term for what we have been seeing within the left wing of US politics and within the more liberal elements of society. The following article may be worth reviewing:

Library : Enlightenment values: Their Social and Political Implications Over Two Centuries

Enlightenment values: Their Social and Political Implications Over Two Centuries Philip trower discusses how the values of the enlightenment have permeated the thinking of the West. In order to understand the full historical significance of the Enlightenment he says it is necessary to comprehend...
www.catholicculture.org www.catholicculture.org

The article is a speech given by Philip Trower, although about 15 pages long.

I suggest that it is worth reading. Reproduced from his talk, by Catholic Culture.org.
 
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You forgot to add that it’s in the Church as well and that is a huge problem.
 
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anon65111186 said:
It exists, is real, and is a threat to our civilization. Just turn on the TV or read thr news and you can see it.

Pray for the end of cultural marxism.
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There are many evil things that exist, are real, and are a threat to our civilization. Many of them have been mentioned in this thread. I do not dispute that. But I do dispute that the things mentioned all are part of a single problem that can be judged as a group rather than individually. Starting from post #2 and going forward from there we find:

Third World immigration into Western countries
race-based affirmative action
whites adopting non-white children
political correctness
income equality between men and women
rock’n’roll
the civil rights movement
the 60’s anti-war movement
parents paying for basketball and football teams for their kids
warning of a “domestic violence epidemic”
warning of a “rape culture”

I’m not sure it is proper to pray for an end of all these things. They are not all evil. The problem with trying to lump too many things into one evil basket is that a lot of good gets thrown out with the bad. Do we really want to denigrate the civil rights movement, or youth basketball?
 
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philipl said:
A republic creates liberty. All others will sooner or later create slavery to a government.
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But does it? Does the abolition of monarchy and giving people the chance to put a cross on a ballot paper every few years really emancipate them? Or does it give the illusion of emancipation and empowerment? It’s much better than a totalitarian regime, but does it really deliver freedom? Does majority decision really ensure freedom?
 
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A republic is the only form of government that creates Liberty. There is no illusion of liberty. Our government is corrupt 100% and has been for decades. A good 80% of what our government does it does by distorting the Constitution.
 
From what I have observed, a cultural Marxist is anyone who sees any disparity between two individuals who have something different about them (race, sexual preference, sex, ethnicity, shoe size, etc.) as the result of systemic injustice and excludes other likely explanation like individual volition and biology.
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This is an spot on explanation of the most extreme elements of social justice movement, though I think any link to Marxism is so tenuous that it makes total sense there is an entire thread of people that are confused or disagree on the definition.

Certainly there are issues that affect most people in a group. However the worst thing about those that only see collective justice is that they ironically do not hesitate to stereotype, assume, or speak for the experiences of others (ex: someone assumes someone has not experienced injustice because they do not fit the typical demographic) Individual rights and the concept of individuality is sort of obliterated in an extreme collectivist view.
 
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I have not had the chance to read this thread since my first post, but, it seems to me that a lot of people consider any ideology that creates a victim and an oppressor class, be it workers vs. the rich, whites vs. blacks, men vs. women, etc., and sees society through the lens of a constant struggle for power between the two as a form of Marxism. Hence, the idea of cultural Marxism.

As for your second paragraph, I’ve heard it said that collective justice usually leads to individual injustice.
 
redbetta said:
I have not had the chance to read this thread since my first post, but, it seems to me that a lot of people consider any ideology that creates a victim and an oppressor class, be it workers vs. the rich, whites vs. blacks, men vs. women, etc., and sees society through the lens of a constant struggle for power between the two as a form of Marxism. Hence, the idea of cultural Marxism.

As for your second paragraph, I’ve heard it said that collective justice usually leads to individual injustice.
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^^^^^ Bingo!
 
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Sure, whereas those things lead to evil we shoukd pray, we should be praying anyhow for God’s kingdom, but also for our country that it combats the condemned evils of communism, and elements of cultural marxisim.
 
anon65111186 said:
Sure, whereas those things lead to evil we shoukd pray, we should be praying anyhow for God’s kingdom, but also for our country that it combats the condemned evils of communism, and elements of cultural marxisim.
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I agree. We should pray for democracies to win over communism. There are more democracies in the world today than their were 30 years ago, so there is hope. My only objection is lumping other things like the civil rights movement into this pot. The civil rights movement of the 1960s was a very good thing, even if communists did try to take advantage of it. They did not succeed.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
The civil rights movement of the 1960s was a very good thing, even if communists did try to take advantage of it. They did not succeed.
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Agreed, but they are still trying, and many have tried to hijack the image of the civil rights movement for much different and even sinister things. Most people don’t know much about the movement, it was pretty much a Christian movement. The way the media potrays it today you wouldn’t know, you would think it was completely secular and the socialists that did everything.
 
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