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buffalo
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There are others that give a pretty good explanation for the size and capability of the ark. What is unknown is how many kinds were necessary.
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Well, since according to you guys, ID means animals can only “lose abilities,” then I’d have to assume there were no brontosauruses. Cuz walking around with 2 brains and being the size of a building are pretty important abilities.
The ability to crush a car with your jaw a la T-Rex is also an ability that has not been mentioned by anything in the Bible, ever. I’d think giant lizards with 9-inch teeth would have been noticed, and mentioned.
To me, the answer is obvious. The Arc story is an allegory. It’s meant to teach about faith, obedience, and God’s covenant with his chosen. I cannot seriously consider it a historical text, for quite a lot of reasons.
For example. . . were there kangaroos on the arc? Did they swim across the ocean for 40 days to get into a boat to save them from. . . the ocean? Doesn’t make sense. I mean. . . I tried to explain the idea of the arc to my 5 year-old, and he was all over the logic on this one. Smart kid.
The ability to crush a car with your jaw a la T-Rex is also an ability that has not been mentioned by anything in the Bible, ever. I’d think giant lizards with 9-inch teeth would have been noticed, and mentioned.
To me, the answer is obvious. The Arc story is an allegory. It’s meant to teach about faith, obedience, and God’s covenant with his chosen. I cannot seriously consider it a historical text, for quite a lot of reasons.
For example. . . were there kangaroos on the arc? Did they swim across the ocean for 40 days to get into a boat to save them from. . . the ocean? Doesn’t make sense. I mean. . . I tried to explain the idea of the arc to my 5 year-old, and he was all over the logic on this one. Smart kid.
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buffalo
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Is is necessary to take adults on the ark? How about juveniles? Save space.Well, since according to you guys, ID means animals can only “lose abilities,” then I’d have to assume there were no brontosauruses. Cuz walking around with 2 brains and being the size of a building are pretty important abilities.
The ability to crush a car with your jaw a la T-Rex is also an ability that has not been mentioned by anything in the Bible, ever. I’d think giant lizards with 9-inch teeth would have been noticed, and mentioned.
To me, the answer is obvious. The Arc story is an allegory. It’s meant to teach about faith, obedience, and God’s covenant with his chosen. I cannot seriously consider it a historical text, for quite a lot of reasons.
For example. . . were there kangaroos on the arc? Did they swim across the ocean for 40 days to get into a boat to save them from. . . the ocean? Doesn’t make sense. I mean. . . I tried to explain the idea of the arc to my 5 year-old, and he was all over the logic on this one. Smart kid.
Also, consider that the animals were in a tranquil state.
Ocean levels before the flood were much lower and land bridges more prevalent.
The giant lizards were called behemoths. The word dinosaur was coined just recently.
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Evidence? Anything at all? No?. …Ocean levels before the flood were much lower and land bridges more prevalent.
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Hugh_Farey
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“… The wooden construction is carried on a hidden floating platform from steel made up of 21 LASH barges. … Hence the ark can be towed by tugboats over the rivers, but it is not seaworthy. …”Full-size replica of Noah’s Ark
Dutchman realizes his dream of constructing a 427-foot-long replica of Biblical vessel
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buffalo
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It has been constantly taught in earth science class for years.Evidence? Anything at all? No?. …
but…
Mapping Mankind’s Trek – Ancient Coastlines and Land Bridges
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buffalo
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Yup. It is a replica to show size and shape…“… The wooden construction is carried on a hidden floating platform from steel made up of 21 LASH barges. … Hence the ark can be towed by tugboats over the rivers, but it is not seaworthy. …”
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Techno2000
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It would be if the hand of God is guiding it.“… The wooden construction is carried on a hidden floating platform from steel made up of 21 LASH barges. … Hence the ark can be towed by tugboats over the rivers, but it is not seaworthy. …”
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Sadly, David Fasold died in 1998, so the parts of this video which feature him prominently were made well before then. Since then, after actually visiting the site himself, Fasolt completely repudiated his ideas, and described the findings as “the oldest running hoax in history” and as “absolute BS”. I thoroughly recommend his 1996 article in the Journal of Geoscience Education Bogus ‘Noah’s Ark’ from Turkey Exposed as a Common Geologic Structure.20/20 and Nova both did pieces on the ark. Photos were published in Life Magazine.
Interesting…
But I’m sure you knew that, and were desperately hoping I didn’t. As I appealed to Glark, can’t you see what damage this absurd straw-evidence-grasping is doing to your cause? Do you not care that this transparent nonsense is the chief reason people are turning away from Christianity? With supporters like you, all atheists need do is sit back and laugh.
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buffalo
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The stone anchors are false? Evidence?
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buffalo,
“It absolutely is dangerous.” to promote this. As if the subject has been verified, and it will not affect your life in any way.
“It absolutely is dangerous.” to promote this. As if the subject has been verified, and it will not affect your life in any way.
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Hugh_Farey
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And while I’m at it - this is more nonsense. There is no more water in the world than there ever was. As the article you straw-grasped clearly says, the sea-levels only dropped during ice-ages, when some of the world’s water was locked up in ice-sheets.It has been constantly taught in earth science class for years.
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Mapping Mankind’s Trek – Ancient Coastlines and Land Bridges
(No, don’t tell me; Noah’s “global” flood took place during an ice age…)
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buffalo
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It is an interesting site. I wish they would excavate. Until then, some will claim it to be the ark and others will try to debunk it.
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buffalo
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Your claim was the water levels were not lower. That is all I have to show.And while I’m at it - this is more nonsense. There is no more water in the world than there ever was. As the article you straw-grasped clearly says, the sea-levels only dropped during ice-ages, when some of the world’s water was locked up in ice-sheets.
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The chief investigator of the video above David Fasolt, said this in the paper cited above:The stone anchors are false? Evidence?
“A natural rock structure near Dogubayazit, Turkey, has been misidentified as Noah’s Ark. Microscopic studies of a supposed iron bracket show that it is derived from weathered volcanic minerals. Supposed metal-braced walls are natural concentrations of limonite and magnetite in steeply inclined sedimentary layers in the limbs of a doubly plunging syncline. Supposed fossilized gopherwood bark is crinkled metamorphosed peridotite. Fossiliferous limestone, interpreted as cross cutting the syncline, preclude the structure from being Noah’s Ark because these supposed “Flood” deposits are younger than the “Ark.” Anchor stones at Kazan (Arzap) are derived from local andesite and not from Mesopotamia.”
“Volcanic rocks similar to the andesitic “anchor stones” occur in the area surrounding Mt. Ararat. The almost total absence of volcanic rocks in Mesopotamia (now Iraq), where Noah’s Ark is alleged to have been constructed, reasonably eliminate the possibility that the anchor stones were transported to Kazan by Noah’s Ark. Because of the great weight of these stones, a nearby source is much more likely.”
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buffalo
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Yup, as I said, they should dig. Some will fight this claim tooth and nail. Again, they should dig,The chief investigator of the video above David Fasolt, said this in the paper cited above:
“A natural rock structure near Dogubayazit, Turkey, has been misidentified as Noah’s Ark. Microscopic studies of a supposed iron bracket show that it is derived from weathered volcanic minerals. Supposed metal-braced walls are natural concentrations of limonite and magnetite in steeply inclined sedimentary layers in the limbs of a doubly plunging syncline. Supposed fossilized gopherwood bark is crinkled metamorphosed peridotite. Fossiliferous limestone, interpreted as cross cutting the syncline, preclude the structure from being Noah’s Ark because these supposed “Flood” deposits are younger than the “Ark.” Anchor stones at Kazan (Arzap) are derived from local andesite and not from Mesopotamia.”
“Volcanic rocks similar to the andesitic “anchor stones” occur in the area surrounding Mt. Ararat. The almost total absence of volcanic rocks in Mesopotamia (now Iraq), where Noah’s Ark is alleged to have been constructed, reasonably eliminate the possibility that the anchor stones were transported to Kazan by Noah’s Ark. Because of the great weight of these stones, a nearby source is much more likely.”
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Hugh_Farey
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Nope. Your claim was that “Ocean levels before the flood were much lower” and that this “has been constantly taught in earth science class for years.” This is untrue.Your claim was the water levels were not lower. That is all I have to show.
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buffalo
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I was taught it years ago. The Bering Bridge was how America was settled. You may doubt it, but it was taught.and that this “has been constantly taught in earth science class for years.” This is untrue.
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