Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution True? Part Three

[Glark]

Evolution does not rest on the authenticity of Haeckel’s embryos.

No, just his mentality.

 

[Glark]

You seem to think that scientists start with the final premise and work their way backward. It’s not surprising that you believe this, because that’s 100% how religious thinking works. You have what seems to be a creation myth of early desert-dwellers, supported with a lot of faith but almost no physical evidence of any kind.

According to Gould and Eldredge, the fossil record is characterised by sudden appearance of creatures and stasis. There is also a distinct,lack of transitional fossils between major groups (eg, reptile to bird). These facts are evidence of creation.

There is also overwhelming evidence that life cannot form naturally from inanimate matter.

So the choice is this: given you believe in the God of those desert-dwellers, how literally should you take their writings about scientific issues like the development of species?

The book of Genesis isn’t science; it’s history. It describes what happened, not how it happened.

To me the ideal position for Catholics is this: we will earnestly attempt to understand things based on the available evidence. We will accept evolution until actual evidence demonstrates it to be untenable-- just like the rest of the world does.

You want to spread the gospel that it’s vitally important to believe that life evolved from microbes, but the reality is, it’s just a worthless story atheists tell their children at bedtime. It’s as irrelevant and useless as a fairy tale.

 

[edwest211]

“vitally important” for what? Over and over again, it’s ‘vitally important.’

 

[Glark]

“Face it - you’ve devoted large chunks of your time to studying something that is as useless a fairy tale.”

You know I could turn this around and say the same about you.

It cannot be demonstrated in this life if the Catholic faith is true or not, so it cannot be demonstrated if it is useless or not. The theory that all life evolved from microbes, however, has demonstrated itself to be completely useless. That’s the difference.

 

[edwest211]

The Catholic faith is true. That’s why it’s constantly brought up in this context.

 

[Glark]

you think we should incorporate more Hebrew into our faith lives?

I’ve got a tattoo featuring Hebrew writing on my chest. Is that what you mean?

 

[Glark]

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evodevo_02: “Ancestral characters are often, but not always, preserved in an organism’s development. For example, both chick and human embryos go through a stage where they have slits and arches in their necks like the gill slits and gill arches of fish. These structures are not gills and do not develop into gills in chicks and humans, but the fact that they are so similar to gill structures in fish at this point in development supports the idea that chicks and humans share a common ancestor with fish.”

In other words, the “human gills” myth still exists. Junk science manufacture and sold by charlatans. Evolution is a fool’s paradise.

I highly recommend Neil Shubin’s book, “Your Inner Fish” for more on this line of investigation.

Is this book heavy? If so, I could use it as a door stop.

 

[Glark]

No it does not. They are folds and we do not go through evolutionary stages as embryos.

Folds or gills - what’s the difference? Stop being a party-popper! When it comes to swallowing junk science, you are hopeless!

 

[Glark]

Science is provisional and changes but their are forces that will not correct what is being taught.

Very well said.

“The lie is sacred” - Vladimir Lenin, Communist leader and Servant of Satan, the Father of Lies.

 

[Glark]

“vitally important” for what? Over and over again, it’s ‘vitally important.’

It’s a complete mystery. Even evolutionists themselves can’t explain why it’s “vitally important”! They just assume that it is - because they’ve being brainwashed that way.

 

[anon65111186]

Do you always request scientific explanations for miracles?

The Vatican does so when it confirms whether a miracle happened or not, especially if a canonization is involved.

 

[anon65111186]

Your explanation seems rather lame to me. Pope’s don’t normally go around declaring that Satan has entered the Church.

What’s lame, didn’t the devil enter the Church through Judas even before Jesus died? You shouldn’t be surprised if there are warnings of the devil entering the church. That’s why we pray for the Church, that we might not fall into temptation, right?

 

[anon65111186]

I’ve got a tattoo featuring Hebrew writing on my chest. Is that what you mean?

What does it say?

 

[Glark]

The Vatican does so when it confirms whether a miracle happened or not, especially if a canonization is involved.

The Church doesn’t ask how Jesus turned water into wine - she just believes it.

 

[Glark]

It says THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH

 

[anon65111186]

The Church doesn’t ask how Jesus turned water into wine - she just believes it.

Is it against some principle to question how a miracle happened? They surely do question miracles for those proposed as Saints.

 

[anon65111186]

It says THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH

גור אריה יהודה? Tov, and Mazal tov!

 

[Glark]

Is it against some principle to question how a miracle happened? They surely do question miracles for those proposed as Saints.

Yes, but that’s a different scenario to the miracles described in the Bible (which are recorded under divine inspiration), such as Eve being created from Adam’s rib.

 

[anon65111186]

Yes, but that’s a different scenario to the miracles described in the Bible (which are recorded under divine inspiration), such as Eve being created from Adam’s rib.

Sure, but questioning how that miracle happened is a different scenario than questioning that it happened.

 

[Glark]

The Catholic faith is true. That’s why it’s constantly brought up in this context.

I have absolutely no doubt that the Catholic faith is true. (But I think the Church has erred in accepting evolution.)