Is Darwin's Theory Of Evolution True?

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Is this the same Wiki who deletes entries they do not like? Wiki is not trustworthy.
In deciding not to trust Wikipedia entries, one is implicitly choosing to trust other sources of information more. Short of personally traveling to Tibet and doing your own academic research on the native physiology (which is not a practical alternative for 99.999% of us) what other source can you trust more than a Wikipedia entry to answer the questions addressed by the article that was cited?
 
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Evolutionary theory cannot be applied to anything. Biologists only deal with what’s alive today and the gaps in knowledge are growing. The pea plants weren’t evolving.
Darwinists like their word games. Antibiotic resistance is “evolution” and so is humans descending from an ape. They want us to think they are one and the same thing and that since one form of “evolution” is true, then the other form must also be true.
The devil will tell you a thousand truths… just to slip in one lie.
 
So evolution creates adaptations for animals to survive in its next future environment… ok.
So the question is… how can a animal progress to its next future environment if it has to wait for evolution to create the adaptation ?
 
And I wanted a specific example of any animal at any time in history evolution changed to adapt to a new environment… can you give me some examples… please be specific if you can.
Have you already forgotten our discussion of whales?

rossum
 
So evolution creates adaptations for animals to survive in its next future environment… ok.
No.Evolution creates random mutations. Lots of them. For example, each human has about 100 mutations. So in a population of 7 billion humans, there are about 700 billion mutations in total.

The majority of those mutations are neutral in their current environments. Some are deleterious in their current environments, and are being eliminated by natural selection. Very few are beneficial in their current environments and are being spread through the population.

As the environment changes, so the classification of those 700 billion mutations can change. A previously neutral mutation might change to beneficial or to deleterious. Natural selection will work to spread the now beneficial mutation wider in future generations.
So the question is… how can a animal progress to its next future environment if it has to wait for evolution to create the adaptation ?
Not a single animal, but a population of animals; evolution works on populations, not individuals. The adaptation is already sitting there as a currently neutral mutation, one of the 700 billion. As the environment changes, what was previously a neutral mutation becomes a beneficial mutation and natural selection can work to spread it through the population.

AIDS is a good example. Before the arrival of HIV, the ability to resist it was either neutral or mildly deleterious. As soon as AIDS appeared in the human population, the ability to resist HIV became beneficial and started to spread through the population. The mutation was already present as one of the 700 billion. It only became beneficial when the environment changed. Humans didn’t have to “wait”, the mutation was already there. When the environment changed it switched to being a beneficial mutation. For an example, see Late seroconversion in HIV-resistant Nairobi prostitutes despite pre-existing HIV-specific CD8+ responses.

rossum
 
And yet none of them were excommunicated for heresy. That’s very interesting…
 
No.Evolution creates random mutations. Lots of them. For example, each human has about 100 mutations. So in a population of 7 billion humans, there are about 700 billion mutations in total.

The majority of those mutations are neutral in their current environments. Some are deleterious in their current environments, and are being eliminated by natural selection. Very few are beneficial in their current environments and are being spread through the population.

As the environment changes, so the classification of those 700 billion mutations can change. A previously neutral mutation might change to beneficial or to deleterious. Natural selection will work to spread the now beneficial mutation wider in future generations.
Ok …get to the part about how they can create whole new species of new animals. 😫
 
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And I wanted a specific example of any animal at any time in history evolution changed to adapt to a new environment… can you give me some examples… please be specific if you can.
Have you already forgotten our discussion of whales?

rossum
No… why did the (otter like creature) have to evolve in the first place … did the ocean run out of its favorite food ?
 
Ok …get to the part about how they can create whole new species of new animals.
A new species is never wholly new, it always inherits some characteristics from its ancestors. We have the standard tetrapod body plan which goes back a very long way, to Tiktaalik and before.

The smallest number of changes I am aware of is three. One change altered colouration so the new insect was better camouflaged in evergreen trees, rather than in deciduous trees. The camouflage resulted in a predator-driven separation of populations with different colouring. Two further mutations altered the breeding season of the new population, so the two populations do not interbreed. That gives a new species which lives in a different habitat and which does not interbreed with the old species. The new species (Chrysopa downesi) has a much smaller range which is wholly contained within the much wider range of the older species (Chrysopa carnea).

rossum
 
No… why did the (otter like creature) have to evolve in the first place … did the ocean run out of its favorite food ?
Your question is answered on the internet. Hint: otters evolved initially as a fresh water predator from land predator ancestors. Did you bother to look for any videos of mink swimming as I suggested?

You are so lacking in relevant knowledge that you find it difficult to ask relevant questions. I suggest that you start by learning more about the basics of the subject: “An intelligent mind acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.” - Proverbs 18:15.

rossum
 
Evolution does not/cannot explain the information. You can rattle on forever about this and that of evolution, but no, mutations and NS do not make the necessary programming, code and information. It is really over…
 
Evolution does not/cannot explain the information. You can rattle on forever about this and that of evolution, but no, mutations and NS do not make the necessary programming, code and information. It is really over…
Evolution can easily explain the origin of, and change (either increase or decrease) in Shannon and Kolmogorov information. What measure of information are you using in this case? Shannon, Kolmogorov or some other measure? If some other measure then please specify an objective measure for that information.

You might also want to consider whether or not a back mutation can increase information under your proposed objective measure.

rossum
 
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No - it really cannot. This is really getting absurd. It is great storytelling. But you can hold out for a while longer…
 
No - it really cannot. This is really getting absurd. It is great storytelling. But you can hold out for a while longer…
O, here is some detail. Sorry if this is a bit boring. Start with some DNA:
Now that DNA duplicates:
GATTACAGATTACA
That is a doubling of Shannon information and a 1 bit increase in Kolmogorov information.

Now there is a point mutation in one of the duplicated copies:
GATTACAGAGTACA
That leaves the Shannon information unchanged from the duplication step and doubles the Kolmogorov information from the initial sequence.

You also failed to examine the effect of a back mutation on your unspecified buffalo-measure of information.

I have shown how natural observed evolutionary processes: duplication and point mutation, can increase information. Apparently all you have is personal opinion, not any actual measure.

Unsupported personal opinion does not cut it in science.

rossum
 
We have been over this time and time again.

Epigenetic information comes from a mind.
 
Evolution does not/cannot explain the information. You can rattle on forever about this and that of evolution, but no, mutations and NS do not make the necessary programming, code and information. It is really over…
Here is an analogy that shows how evolution can produce information. Random variations are like someone asking random questions in the game 20 questions, except that you are allowed to ask as many questions as you like. The questions are of the form “Is this better?” The answers are of the form “no”, “terrible idea”, “a little better”, “much better”, or “no difference.” Even if I have no information to start with, after asking a bunch of questions - even totally random questions, most of which are nonsensical - eventually I will acquire information about what is better. The process of natural selection is like the answerer. It passes judgement on every random variation. Then answer is “remembered” in the inherited genetics, which eventually contains more useful information than it had before.
 
We have been over this time and time again.

Epigenetic information comes from a mind.
So, you have no problem with evolution generating information then, but you are shifting your ground from evolution to epigenetics.

As you have abandoned evolution, can we say that you agree that Darwin’s theory is true, since Darwin did not deal with epigenetics.

rossum
 
How did you get that?

Darwinism (macroevolution) does not create new or novel features.
Epigenetics further puts a nail in the coffin of Darwinism. The DNA language comes from a mind.

Most top evos are grappling with the latest information. The modern synthesis no longer stands.
 
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