Is dipping the host in the wine a thing?

[alliys]

We had a visiting priest today and in order to give communion he sorta maneuvered it so he could hold the plate with the body and the chalice in one hand and then with the other dipped the body in the blood before giving it to each person. I guess I don’t see anything wrong with that, but I’ve never seen that done before and was wondering if it was a common thing?

 

[thistle]

We had a visiting priest today and in order to give communion he sorta maneuvered it so he could hold the plate with the body and the chalice in one hand and then with the other dipped the body in the blood before giving it to each person. I guess I don’t see anything wrong with that, but I’ve never seen that done before and was wondering if it was a common thing?

That is intinction which is a way to receive both species at the same time.
Self-intinction is not permitted.

 

[Phemie]

We had a visiting priest today and in order to give communion he sorta maneuvered it so he could hold the plate with the body and the chalice in one hand and then with the other dipped the body in the blood before giving it to each person. I guess I don’t see anything wrong with that, but I’ve never seen that done before and was wondering if it was a common thing?

Is Communion from the Chalice normally offered at your parish?

Intinction is a way to give Communion under both species. It’s a perfectly legitimate and according to the law but it must always be given by the priest and on the tongue. We are not allowed to receive the Host and then go dip it in the Precious Blood ourselves – something that, against all the rules, became popular in some parishes over the years and which we still sometimes see when we have visitors in our parish.

 

[peter26]

I believe intiction is the norm is some Eastern rites. Self-intiction is illicit and something I have thankfully never seen in a Catholic church (once I saw this back when I was Church of England, and I’m pretty sure its not allowed there either for that matter).

 

[MissRose73]

At the Sunday Mass I had on pilgrimage in France last fall, the priests administered Communion to us that way - one held the chalice with the precious blood, the other had the hosts in a ciborium and that priest dipped each host into the chalice for each person to receive on the tongue. The others Masses, we only received the body and the blood was for the priests only.

 

[Brendan]

We had a visiting priest today and in order to give communion he sorta maneuvered it so he could hold the plate with the body and the chalice in one hand and then with the other dipped the body in the blood before giving it to each person. I guess I don’t see anything wrong with that, but I’ve never seen that done before and was wondering if it was a common thing?

It is a permitted way of receiving both species

Here are the US norms, but they are pretty much universal in that regard

1. Holy Communion may be distributed by intinction in the following manner: "Each communicant, while holding a Communion-plate under the mouth, approaches the Priest who holds a vessel with the sacred particles, with a minister standing at his side and holding the chalice. The Priest takes a host, intincts it partly in the chalice and, showing it, says: ‘The Body and Blood of Christ.’ The communicant replies, ‘Amen,’ receives the Sacrament in the mouth from the Priest, and then withdraws

The key factor is that it is the priest who must do the intinction, as others have noted, the recipient is not permitted to do the intinction themselves.

 

[tawny]

My Parish uses Intinction for the RCIA candidates receiving Holy Communion at the Easter Vigil.

 

[Barb3]

I do not drink from the cup because if I get a cold I really get SICK!!! I take the host and then dip it in the chalice – I find it works very well this way.

 

[Phemie]

I do not drink from the cup because if I get a cold I really get SICK!!! I take the host and then dip it in the chalice – I find it works very well this way.

THAT is not allowed. Unfortunately, once it starts in a parish it usually spreads.

 

[peter26]

Redemptionis Sacramentum also expressly forbids this practice.

[103.] The norms of the Roman Missal admit the principle that in cases where Communion is administered under both kinds, “the Blood of the Lord may be received either by drinking from the chalice directly, or by intinction, or by means of a tube or a spoon”.[191] As regards the administering of Communion to lay members of Christ’s faithful, the Bishops may exclude Communion with the tube or the spoon where this is not the local custom, though the option of administering Communion by intinction always remains. If this modality is employed, however, hosts should be used which are neither too thin nor too small, and the communicant should receive the Sacrament from the Priest only on the tongue.[192]

[104.] The communicant must not be permitted to intinct the host himself in the chalice, nor to receive the intincted host in the hand. As for the host to be used for the intinction, it should be made of valid matter, also consecrated; it is altogether forbidden to use non-consecrated bread or other matter.

 

[John_Lilburne]

The General Instruction of the Roman Missal makes this point on receiving Communion under both kinds:

“284. … Any of the faithful who wish to receive Holy Communion under the species of bread alone should be given this form of Holy Communion.”

The process for receiving Communion by intinction is described:

“287. If Communion from the chalice is carried out by intinction, each communicant, holding a communion-plate under the mouth, approaches the Priest who holds a vessel with the sacred particles with a minister standing at his side and holding the chalice. The priest takes a host, intincts it partly in the chalice and, showing it, says, The Body and Blood of Christ. The communicant replies, Amen, receives the Sacrament in the mouth from the Priest, and then withdraws.”

Fairly complicated, particularly if the congregation is used to receiving Communion in the hand.

 

[thistle]

I do not drink from the cup because if I get a cold I really get SICK!!! I take the host and then dip it in the chalice – I find it works very well this way.

That is absolutely FORBIDDEN.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I do not drink from the cup because if I get a cold I really get SICK!!! I take the host and then dip it in the chalice – I find it works very well this way.

What you described is the “self-intinction” mention above which is not allowed.

 

[Peebo]

I have to say I’ve never heard that before…intinction…sounds like it would be pretty hygienic…I’m surprised it’s not widely practiced…especially in these days when people are more conscious of health and hygiene…and it would also ensure that people couldn’t slip the host into their pockets as I understand does happen at times…is there a vessel that can be used so the priest can hold both the Ciborium and the Chalice in one hand

 

[JRS_88]

I have to say I’ve never heard that before…intinction…sounds like it would be pretty hygienic…I’m surprised it’s not widely practiced…especially in these days when people are more conscious of health and hygiene…and it would also ensure that people couldn’t slip the host into their pockets as I understand does happen at times…is there a vessel that can be used so the priest can hold both the Ciborium and the Chalice in one hand

In the Maronite Church we receive by intinction. Here is a picture of an intinction vessel, almost identical to the one our priest uses. The bowl portion is about 7 or 8 inches in diameter and holds the Hosts, and then the cup in the middle holds the Blood. The cup unscrews from the bowl so that the priest can drink the remainder, and clean it.

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[Barb3]

Some of you should come to San Francisco and attend Mass at St. Patrick’s – it’s in downtown San Francisco and they do not have wine at Communion time – apparently someone complained so the priest explained one day that they didn’t have the wine because we have so manyh "beggars"in San Francisco and if they heard that wine was being given at Communion time at St.Patrick’s I believe the Church would be MOBBED!!!
P.S. I might mention thatSt. Patrick’s is very crowded each and every day – I just love it – it was the 1st Catholic Church built in San Francisco and the first time my husband and I went to Mass together we went to St. Patrick’s!!!

 

[zab]

Some of you should come to San Francisco and attend Mass at St. Patrick’s – it’s in downtown San Francisco and they do not have wine at Communion time – apparently someone complained so the priest explained one day that they didn’t have the wine because we have so manyh "beggars"in San Francisco and if they heard that wine was being given at Communion time at St.Patrick’s I believe the Church would be MOBBED!!!
P.S. I might mention thatSt. Patrick’s is very crowded each and every day – I just love it – it was the 1st Catholic Church built in San Francisco and the first time my husband and I went to Mass together we went to St. Patrick’s!!!

I don’t understand the point that you are trying to make. What does this have to do with intinction?

 

[JRS_88]

Some of you should come to San Francisco and attend Mass at St. Patrick’s – it’s in downtown San Francisco and they do not have wine at Communion time – apparently someone complained so the priest explained one day that they didn’t have the wine because we have so manyh "beggars"in San Francisco and if they heard that wine was being given at Communion time at St.Patrick’s I believe the Church would be MOBBED!!!
P.S. I might mention thatSt. Patrick’s is very crowded each and every day – I just love it – it was the 1st Catholic Church built in San Francisco and the first time my husband and I went to Mass together we went to St. Patrick’s!!!

Truly confused by this comment.
Self intinction is still wrong to do even in a church that is well-attended

 

[thistle]

Some of you should come to San Francisco and attend Mass at St. Patrick’s – it’s in downtown San Francisco and they do not have wine at Communion time – apparently someone complained so the priest explained one day that they didn’t have the wine because we have so manyh "beggars"in San Francisco and if they heard that wine was being given at Communion time at St.Patrick’s I believe the Church would be MOBBED!!!
P.S. I might mention thatSt. Patrick’s is very crowded each and every day – I just love it – it was the 1st Catholic Church built in San Francisco and the first time my husband and I went to Mass together we went to St. Patrick’s!!!

Let us repeat this as you don’t seem to understand.

SELF-INTINCTION IS ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN BY THE CHURCH.

No Bishop or priest can make an exception to this and it is totally irrelevant how many people are at Mass.

 

[Peebo]

In the Maronite Church we receive by intinction. Here is a picture of an intinction vessel, almost identical to the one our priest uses. The bowl portion is about 7 or 8 inches in diameter and holds the Hosts, and then the cup in the middle holds the Blood. The cup unscrews from the bowl so that the priest can drink the remainder, and clean it.

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Thank you…I think many more Catholics would take both the body and blood of our blessed Lord if this was available…not only for hygiene reasons…but usually at our church by the time half the congregation has taken the Blood of Christ there is no more left…if the priest gave the Eucharist by way of intinction there would enough for all…maybe I’ll ask our priest his view on this…I realize there are some people who for various reasons do not drink wine…even if the host was dipped…is there a sign that the priest would know if a person only wants to receive the host