Is Guitar mass okay

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Pre-Vatican II, it was the Holy Sacrifice if the Mass.
Post-Vatican II, it’s a celebratory gathering / family meal.
When there appears to be a conflict between pre and post Vatican II, one has to choose which one you’re going to agree with. “Shrug”.
Well, I think conduct generally is more informal now. There has also been a reaction against practices or ways of teaching the faith that literally instilled fear of God (as in, instilling serious doubt about the mercy and love of God) to an overreaction that resulted in the fear that practicing true reverence will make a devoted Catholic either smug about his chances of salvation or else petrified of the Most High. One can hope that now, as in the past, there has hardly been an action in the history of humankind that didn’t err on the side of overreaction at times. The current over-reaction now is the idea that awe is always a bad thing, that to hold someone in awe is to be in fear of them or somehow distanced from them, that awe stands in the way of love.

I think there is a problem with what is percieved to be the repertoire for sacred music played on the guitar, though, and it is this: some of the most well-known pieces in the repertoire of music played at Mass and accompanied by the guitar have words that are fine–not uncommonly, we’re talking the Holy Scriptures sung either verbatim or paraphrased–but with music that is sometimes sounds as if it were literally taken straight off of pop radio or a contemporary Broadway production. It has no element of the awe before Heaven in it.

It wouldn’t matter what instrument was used to accompany it, it is still music that is secular rather than religious in tone. Such music has an informality to it or invokes agitated emotions. It lacks a medatative or worshipful quality. That’s not to say it is bad music. It might even be OK for everyday devotional music.

Mass isn’t just any devotion, though. It is the very sacrifice of the Body and Blood of the Lord Jesus, the memorial of his death and Resurrection that unites us with the liturgy of heaven. That is boundless rejoicing, yes, but it is the rejoicing of the elect who have survived the time of great distress. I think sometimes people forget that boundless joy has an awesome quality to it. That’s a different attitude than our “everyday” attitude.

Again, though: although a pipe organ definitely has the capacity that gives itself to express both the awesome and the ethereal at the same time, particularly in the right setting, the guitar is not inherently incapable of expressing the sacred. If people started playing church pipe organs as if they were playing at Fenway Park, the pipe organ would lose some of its reputation, too.
 
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One of our parish priest compeletely changed the liturgy on his own authority. He put together all the readings on Easter.
ACK! That would mean completely changing the liturgy without having the authority to do it at all.
 
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Jragzz123:
Me and my girlfriend have been “debating” the moral validity of guitar mass. I basically just say it’s not the time and place and the mass should be different from everything else you experience. I was wondering if anyone has good objections to guitar mass and what doctors of the church have said on the matter.
This is not a moral issue, nor one of validity.
We don’t all agree with that one. There is of course a moral element of liturgy. I know how much certain people will like this link. It’s Father Z and lifesite!


Another one:

 
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Okay, I have to agree this not for me. But any mass I have been to with guitars was nothing like this… :confused:
 
The music at mass has no moral value whatsoever. One’s preference of music and the suitability of different types of music are completely subjective… if you like a different kind of music and it is distracting for you, I suggest you find a parish that better suits your tastes
 
Any instrument can be played in a dignified way. A pianist accompanies the singing at our church. The parishioners sing enthusiastically. Church is about community. There’s a wonderful sense of celebration that lifts me out of the mundane into the spiritual.
 
Well, I also googled that church and I also read some reviews. Nope, not for me.

I am quite happy at my own parish.
 
Guitar does not have a sustained tone that supports singing. The gentle plucking of a classical guitar is not going to lead or support congregational singing. That’s why organ is the premier instrument of the Catholic Church
 
I don’t especially care for it, and I play guitar. Gives off a weird generic non-denominational Protestant christian vibe to me. I don’t care for the organ or flute either though, so I guess I’m just picky lol. Classic piano and strings for me please.
 
That’s nice and everything, but they seem like a well-rehearsed choir, not a congregation of reluctantly-singing Catholics.
TBH could barely hear the guitar past the first 10 seconds, plus it was strummy folk style, not classical guitar. It could have been percussion if I didn’t know it was guitar.
 
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Yet, those in past centuries were also poor and I would say poorer than us today, yet Cathedrals, Churches and pipe organs were built/purchased.
 
So no difference then. Yet, the poor over the past centuries contributed to the Church for these to be built and organs purchased, so why isn’t it done today?

We are better off nowadays than in the past, wrt our living standards, so my point was if they could do it, why can’t we?
 
Because we’ve been conditioned to think that such things as organs are elitist, that they ‘take away from the poor’, that they are regressive, that doing such a thing would mean that in a couple of months women would be forced into veils and we’d be MADE to speak Latin, nobody would have any FREEDOM, we’d be back to the bad old days before we became Easter people and all that.
 
I admit I wonder if secular society has impacted the general overall attitude of “me and my needs first” which has flowed into the Church, in the sense that I think generations in the past were more prepared to make sacrifices and go without in order to give to the Church for these to be built, whereas today there is a general perceived “need” for various things which are considered truly necessary for whatever reason.

Instead of lowering everything to the basest level, why not lift everything up to the highest, why be satisfied with the minimum instead of aiming for the maximum? Why settle for 'good enough/that’ll do" or mediocrity when more could be achieved?
 
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