Yes, and those same people put THE LAW in Person to death on the cross because He did not fit in with their understanding.
Well if you are a true Catholic you would never question your Religious Leaders. You would believe that they do indeed have the power of the Holy Spirt it teach us just Like Jesus said.
I agree - your ideas are NOT the teachings of the ChurchWell if you are a true Catholic you would never question your Religious Leaders. You would believe that they do indeed have the power of the Holy Spirt it teach us just Like Jesus said.
So bottom line If the Pope says Nope, ITs Nope, So say Nope to Dope. End of discussion. Our ideas are not the teachings of the Church. Our ideas are not what are going to get us into heaven. The Church teachings are what gonna do it.
Really eh? I’ll make a point to your point and that’s this: marijuana is called a gateway drug because it leads to the use of harder drugs by definition, if they are considered harder, than what shall we consider mj? Also, did you know that alchohol actually gateways many into mj use as both are used in social situations and when inhibitions are lowered by the alchohol, that’s when many users first try mj. So, shall we consider alchohol a gateway drug too?
Ah, thank you! I appreciate someone who can appreciate the controversies and indepth details that are required to be able to completely break down what we have to face infront of us. Objectivity is certainly key as so many of us come from naturally biased positioned based much upon how we were socialized. Being honest leads us to freedom within our decisions and the issues surrounding us. It allows us to firmly know what we believe. Ps: I am exactly the same with alchohol, but I am of small weight: 5’7", 140ish. Asians are also known to genetically have these same problems, but I theorize that it is actually just their small stature and generous metabolism that creates this effect. Some more food for thought if you are also of lean stature.I come from a time in history and a place where marijuana and things like it were unheard of. Even though my folks were not religious they were against even regular cigrettes let alone mj.
I have never smoked, never drank more than a couple times in my life ( that’s not to say I’m a goody two shoes I have a stomach problem that is aggravated by alcohol so I can’t drink, even to take the Eucharist) Like Will Rogers “I only know what I read in the papers!” So I’m very interested what this whole line of postings has to say both pro and con. I think the arguments both for and against provide food for thought. It’s very hard in this world to see anything objectively with seemingly everyone having an opinion on any subject one could name! Isn’t that something we all could agree on?
The gateway rational against the use of marijuana is both valid and invalid. It is valid in that people who have very addictive personalities … and have a lack of common sense will step through the door of marijuana to other drugs … but it isn’t marijuana that is the cause … this rational is like saying that Britney Spears music is the gateway to other more trashy music … I think its more due to a poor taste in music … lol
I am new to this forum but I sincerely hope to learn and strenghten my faith here but discussion like this one are making me wonder if I will achieve my goal here. Anyway, I will humbly suggest that those who have a deep knowledge and understanding of the scriptures and the Bible avail themselves with counsel and advice that most of us are seeking, rather than telling people how to live their lives. I have read both side of this debate and I see that it has slipped away from the original question which was " Is it a sin to smoke marijuana" so far no argument is based on neither the Bible nor the Scripture or the life of Christ but everything is purely on personal assumptions. I personally do not support smoking marijuana but I do not know if it is sinful to do so, yet there are a lot of people who smoke marijuana for medical reasons, these people are good people and do no harm to nobody nore are they afraid of anything. I also know communities who smoke marijuana to celebrate peace like the native Americans used to do. To hear people saying that smoking marijuana will cease to be a sin only if it is legalized is somehow absurd. I hope I had a better idea, but if I may suggest, let us look at what the scriptures say about it and if we do not know the answer, let’s ask but please let us not jump into harsh judgmental decisions. Thanks for your time. My humble 2 cents.
you do not really seem interested in the truth and what is pertinant to today in regards to the topic of the thread. You seem far more interested in debating what if’s. I am not offended or threatened for petes sake. The reality is you are not interested in the topic of the thread- you are more interested in debating its legalization because you believe its just like alcohol. anyone who tackles the topic and tries to stick to it is being narrow minded in your opinion. We’ve address the issue, it is sinful. Simple. We’ve already said why- but you ignored the answers and went back to the “what ifs”. many of us have conceded that if it was legal we may think differently… but its not and we’ve given you reasons as to why it is sinful. its beginning to be circular.
I am not interested in the thread? I am the one who started it. This thread is not about the legalization of wacky tobaccy. I know that you have concluded that the use of marijuana is a sin. That is not my conclusion … but my conclusion tried to stay more towards the center rather than one or the other extreme. You are on the extreme right. The other opposite pole is to say that the use of marijuana should be totally unrestricted and I should be able to do anything I want whenever I want mentality. That is not my view either. I believe in the saying about moderation in all things … along with personal responsibility. But because people can’t be responsible or moderate in their use of things, you make it out to be an intrinsic evil … which is a different conclusion than I make.
is it is sin or sinful to smoke mj? it doesn’t offer a middle ground.
It isn’t so black and white … sorry. I’ll put it to you like this … … for some it would be sinful … and for others not sinful … according to their own specific situation, state in life, responsibilities etc … there is not a “one shoe fits all feet” answer to the question.
I am a little taller and a bit heavier: 5’9", and about 170 to 180 I’ve always been medium to lean in stature. As to alcohol, I can’t even stand the odor of it without wanting to hurl. I once worked as a bagger in a supermarket. Often when putting someone’s order together I would accidently drop a jug of wine or other fermented drink on the floor and it would break spattering the liquid all over the place. To me it always smelled like something died! I have also had aluminum cans of beer or other beverages suddenly crack open for no reason at all when I was handling them (the manager said because of the recycled aluminum so often used in beverage cans). So when I became a Catholic I had to inform the person in charge of RCIA that I could not take the cup when doing communion. I know that’s a bit off the subject but there you have a little more of my life story!
Your humble two cents is worth a lot!
you’d make a great jurer.
btw, you wrote
There isn’t an answer that fits all feet.
And both you and I are not advocating breaking the civil law … but what about where it’s legal?
Exactly. We go by the Pope. God did not leave us in charge he left the Pope!I agree - your ideas are NOT the teachings of the Church
Thank God for that … I really do sincerely mean thatExactly. We go by the Pope. God did not leave us in charge he left the Pope!