Is it a sin or sinful to smoke marijuana?

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This is not an opinion. Go to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention web site. Facts are facts. Intentionally harming your mind and body is wrong.
The CDC is A great source of information, but it is only one source of information. For every study that comes out, there is another one that contridicts it. If I’m correct, a few years ago, it was the CDC that stated that corn syrup was horrible for peoples’ health. And now there are advertisments on television saying that it isn’t so bad. Unfortunately, the effects of marijuana aren’t really studied, so the truth of the matter is that no one except God really knows what the effects are.

God Bless you!
Ericka
 
This is not an opinion. Go to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention web site. Facts are facts. Intentionally harming your mind and body is wrong.

I would like to point out that good decisions are made with facts, not opinions. Just because you or your buddies think it’s OK, doesn’t mean it should be promoted.

Peace,
Ed
I agree that good decisions are made with facts. I just think you don’t have all of them and no matter what other facts are presented, you would be predisposed and biased to reject them. For one, I recently saw on a prime time news broadcast about a study that showed THC had promising results for alzheimers patients and electrical brain activity. Did you also know that THC has been proven to have positive results for glacoma? But that isn’t the topic of this thread is it? Since you didn’t respond to my earlier question about whether you approve of going back to the days of prohibition, I will have to assume that you approve of responsible alcoholic drinking. Cheers!!! 🙂

PS - I will do as you suggested and go to the web site you mentioned to do a little research, but please don’t think that for one second I think that the buck stops there. Any reasonable person will acknowledge that many health studies regarding some products have been contradicted by other studies. Alcohol caffein, and eggs are just a few examples. Would you like some more?
 
I believe smoking weed is a sin because it leads to atleast 3 of the deadly sins: sloth, gluttony, and lust

Sloth - You may not be lazy at first, but try an hour or two later. No wonder potheads are always staring mindlessly at the TV.

Gluttony - Pretty self-explanatory (munchies anyone?)

Lust - Definitely heightens sexual impulses and sensations

Excess alcohol leads to these as well.
Do you agree JoeFlow that “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people with guns?” I leave it at that with regard to your remarks. I do sincerely appreciate your thoughts - I just don’t put the blame on wacky tobaccy as the source of sin.
 
The CDC is A great source of information, but it is only one source of information. For every study that comes out, there is another one that contridicts it. If I’m correct, a few years ago, it was the CDC that stated that corn syrup was horrible for peoples’ health. And now there are advertisments on television saying that it isn’t so bad. Unfortunately, the effects of marijuana aren’t really studied, so the truth of the matter is that no one except God really knows what the effects are.

God Bless you!
Ericka
Hello Ericka,

I recommend you contact your local police station. Ask them what they’ve observed,

God Bless you,
Ed
 
I agree that good decisions are made with facts. I just think you don’t have all of them and no matter what other facts are presented, you would be predisposed and biased to reject them. For one, I recently saw on a prime time news broadcast about a study that showed THC had promising results for alzheimers patients and electrical brain activity. Did you also know that THC has been proven to have positive results for glacoma? But that isn’t the topic of this thread is it? Since you didn’t respond to my earlier question about whether you approve of going back to the days of prohibition, I will have to assume that you approve of responsible alcoholic drinking. Cheers!!! 🙂

PS - I will do as you suggested and go to the web site you mentioned to do a little research, but please don’t think that for one second I think that the buck stops there. Any reasonable person will acknowledge that many health studies regarding some products have been contradicted by other studies. Alcohol caffein, and eggs are just a few examples. Would you like some more?
Please don’t try to change the topic. Call a hospital. A local hospital. Ask to speak to a nurse in the Emergency Room. Tell her it’s about marijuana.

Peace,
Ed
 
This is not an opinion. Go to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention web site. Facts are facts. Intentionally harming your mind and body is wrong.

I would like to point out that good decisions are made with facts, not opinions. Just because you or your buddies think it’s OK, doesn’t mean it should be promoted.

Peace,
Ed
thats just it, they arent facts. they are propaganda for an anti drug campaign. my opinion is based on more than 20 years of experience.

i have seen people drink themselves to death, i have seen people overdose on cocaine and opiates, i have seen the horrors of methamphetamine abuse.

but i have yet to see any ill effect caused by marujauna, there are no overdoses, it doesnt hurt your memory, or make you stupid,

it makes you get the munchies, which is hardly gluttony, it only makes you lazy if you let it, its you choosing to be lazy, and i have never heard anyone uses it as a sexual aid.

alcohol does all these things, so you cannot logically condemn smoking pot but not drinking alcohol.

pot is essentially harmless. have you ever heard of an overdose of marijuana. no because the lethal dose is 400 times the effective dose, it is literally not possible to consume enough to harm yourself

facts also have to be judged how they conform to reality, and in this case they simply dont
 
Hello Ericka,

I recommend you contact your local police station. Ask them what they’ve observed,

God Bless you,
Ed
I sincerely hope it wasn’t you at the station they observed with a BAC over .07. Irresponsible use of a drug does not mean that we need to throw out the baby with the bath water.
 
Nice try to dodge. Don’t tell people it’s OK to harm themselves, OK?

Peace,
Ed
 
Please don’t try to change the topic. Call a hospital. A local hospital. Ask to speak to a nurse in the Emergency Room. Tell her it’s about marijuana.

Peace,
Ed
Ed, we are not trying to change the subject. We agree that some people smoke marijuana irresponsibly and that others might have a negative physical allergic reaction. The same can be said of alcohol or even chocolate. It doesn’t mean that we need to throw out the baby with the bath water. The OP of this thread is whether or not it is a sin to smoke marijuana. We appreciate your strong feelings and (name removed by moderator)ut that you think the facts indicate that it is harmful. I am sure for some that might be the case. I am not in agreement that it is the case for most or all people.

Bottoms up? Cheers!!! 🙂
 
Nice try to dodge. Don’t tell people it’s OK to harm themselves, OK?

Peace,
Ed
ed, have you ever smoked pot more than once or twice? you seem to have strong opinions on the subject. im curious as to what your experience may have been?
 
My experience is having in worked in health care for nearly ten years. I have no “opinions.” I have seen firsthand, all manner of drug induced problems. There is nothing theoretical about this.

You’re on the internet. Do some research.

Eveyone involved in the illegal production and distribution of marijuana should be prosecuted.

usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/2008/detroit121008.html

Peace,
Ed
 
My experience is having in worked in health care for nearly ten years. I have no “opinions.” I have seen firsthand, all manner of drug induced problems. There is nothing theoretical about this.

You’re on the internet. Do some research.

Eveyone involved in the illegal production and distribution of marijuana should be prosecuted.

Peace,
Ed
I do not dispute your experience. I also work in the healthcare field and just don’t think you have all your facts straight. When you made the comment about “drug induced problems” I hope you were only referring to the use of marijuana and not grouping in all kinds of drug use.

I acknowledge that irresponsible use of any drug can be harmful. I also acknowledge that for some people particular drugs have negative effects and consequences. I further acknowledge that you think anyone and everyone who smokes marijuana is doing something harmful to their body and mind. Thank you for YOUR opinion. I don’t agree with you and I don’t think ALL the facts agree with you. Would you like to see one?

futurepundit.com/archives/003641.html

Bottoms up??? Cheers!!! 😃
 
Your link would’ve been amusing if it wan’t about a serious illness. I don’t think doctors would allow patients with Alzheimers to treat themselves. And I don’t think anyone who smokes marijuana wants to smoke it to cure a similar medical problem.

If you’re just here to push pot, please stop. I’ll vote against any type of legalization.

Peace,
Ed
 
Your link would’ve been amusing if it wan’t about a serious illness. I don’t think doctors would allow patients with Alzheimers to treat themselves. And I don’t think anyone who smokes marijuana wants to smoke it to cure a similar medical problem.

If you’re just here to push pot, please stop. I’ll vote against any type of legalization.

Peace,
Ed
I’m not here to push pot. The OP stands by itself and the intent of the thread. That is just one study of how THC has shown promising results. Did you know that it also helps people with glacoma? Do you acknowledge there is a legitimate reason marijuana has been legalized in some states for medical use? I don’t think you can.

I have also noticed that you have never once answered the question about whether we should go back to the days of prohibition. FACT - Alcohol kills brain cells. Please be responsible and careful that you don’t loose too many.

Thank God we live in some semblence of a democracy (at least we used to and I am starting to have my doubts even about that listening to the Lou Dobbs show and his books). If interested in the facts, please refer to his book “The War on the Middle Class.”
 
My experience is having in worked in health care for nearly ten years. I have no “opinions.” I have seen firsthand, all manner of drug induced problems. There is nothing theoretical about this.

You’re on the internet. Do some research.

Eveyone involved in the illegal production and distribution of marijuana should be prosecuted.

usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/2008/detroit121008.html

Peace,
Ed
exactly what problems can you attribute to marijuana, from a medical standpoint?

ive never heard of any, and though i dont work in the field one of my best friends is an M.D. and he says its only proven harm is from smoking it
 
exactly what problems can you attribute to marijuana, from a medical standpoint?

ive never heard of any, and though i dont work in the field one of my best friends is an M.D. and he says its only proven harm is from smoking it
My sister, who has been a doctor for decades and particularly has worked in the area of emergency medicine, can tell stories of psychosis which was at least greatly exacerbated if not actually caused by cannabis use, attributable to cannabis and not other drugs in her own knowledgeable opinion, which resulted in users being brought to the emergency ward.

Given that something like 1/4 or 1/5 of all people have some level of mental disorder, there’s a high chance that that percentage of us have something that would be ‘triggered off’ into psychosis with sufficient use of cannabis.

As for the ‘only proven harm is from smoking it’ - good Lord, is that harm not enough reason to shun it? Surely we shouldn’t be knowingly indulging in something as blatantly unhealthy as smoking - at any level - has been proven to be.

Our bodies being temples of the Holy Spirit, it DOES behoove us to take a certain amount of care of our health, and it would most likely be sinful on some level to deliberately compromise our health for no good reason.

Not smoking is a very basic health protection measure, I think it would fall into the category that makes smoking sinful, absent of course reasons such as medical treatment or what have you. And assuming that medical treatment requires you to smoke rather than take controlled doses of THC or other cannabis derivative in some other form.
 
My sister, who has been a doctor for decades and particularly has worked in the area of emergency medicine, can tell stories of psychosis which was at least greatly exacerbated if not actually caused by cannabis use, attributable to cannabis and not other drugs in her own knowledgeable opinion, which resulted in users being brought to the emergency ward.

Given that something like 1/4 or 1/5 of all people have some level of mental disorder, there’s a high chance that that percentage of us have something that would be ‘triggered off’ into psychosis with sufficient use of cannabis.

As for the ‘only proven harm is from smoking it’ - good Lord, is that harm not enough reason to shun it? Surely we shouldn’t be knowingly indulging in something as blatantly unhealthy as smoking - at any level - has been proven to be.

Our bodies being temples of the Holy Spirit, it DOES behoove us to take a certain amount of care of our health, and it would most likely be sinful on some level to deliberately compromise our health for no good reason.

Not smoking is a very basic health protection measure, I think it would fall into the category that makes smoking sinful, absent of course reasons such as medical treatment or what have you. And assuming that medical treatment requires you to smoke rather than take controlled doses of THC or other cannabis derivative in some other form.
Thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut. Would you say the exact same thing about alcohol consumption? It is a clear fact that it kills brain cells. I think living in a city and breathing the air does the same thing as smoking tobacco or any substance for that matter. Should a person move out of a city because it is harmful to breath in the air? Is it a sin if they choose to stay? Do you also think we should go back to the days of prohibition? Ed was reluctant to respond to that question. Will you honestly answer whether or not you consume alcohol?

I am not snidely trying to minimize your concerns or ideas. I totally agree that marijuana can have negative effects for some people (other than the lung issue). But I also don’t think there is an answer that one shoe fits all feet here either.
 
I just scanned through the 8 pages and didn’t see posted one of the more relevant sources regarding the matter. So here 'tis:

Fr. Heribert Jone “Moral Theology” copyright 1961 - page 110:
Since morpine, opium, chloroform and similar drugs can also deprive one of the use of his reason temporarily, that which was said of intoxicating drinks holds true also for narcotics (Cf. 165, 4).
a) To use narcotics in small quantities and only occasionally, is a venial sin if done without a sufficient reason. Any proportionately good reason justifies their use, e.g., to calm the nerves, dispel insomnia, etc.
Such use becomes gravely sinful if it creates an habitual craving for “dope” which is more difficult to overcome than dipsomania and more injurious to health.
To use marijuana for even a mild medicinal purpose (calming of nerves) I think takes away any sinful culpability.
 
My sister, who has been a doctor for decades and particularly has worked in the area of emergency medicine, can tell stories of psychosis which was at least greatly exacerbated if not actually caused by cannabis use, attributable to cannabis and not other drugs in her own knowledgeable opinion, which resulted in users being brought to the emergency ward.

Given that something like 1/4 or 1/5 of all people have some level of mental disorder, there’s a high chance that that percentage of us have something that would be ‘triggered off’ into psychosis with sufficient use of cannabis.

As for the ‘only proven harm is from smoking it’ - good Lord, is that harm not enough reason to shun it? Surely we shouldn’t be knowingly indulging in something as blatantly unhealthy as smoking - at any level - has been proven to be.

Our bodies being temples of the Holy Spirit, it DOES behoove us to take a certain amount of care of our health, and it would most likely be sinful on some level to deliberately compromise our health for no good reason.

Not smoking is a very basic health protection measure, I think it would fall into the category that makes smoking sinful, absent of course reasons such as medical treatment or what have you. And assuming that medical treatment requires you to smoke rather than take controlled doses of THC or other cannabis derivative in some other form.
the point being that if you smoke it that is its harm. taken ingested another way there is no harm

now, i have seen 2 people who react negatively to marijuana, both of those people had anxiety disorders. as the the idea that 20 to 25 percent of people have some mental disorder, thats way out there, that must include every mental tic ever recorded.

as to pot excaberating a psychosis, its possible but id like to see some hard data. otherwise we end up with dueling doctors. however i see no claim that it causes any psychosis.

as a matter of my work i am in intimate contact with literally thousands of criminals, never in all that time have i seen any criminal behavior resulting from marijuana use. in fact i have only seen people dealing in large quantities of marijuana, thirty pounds is the least i ever heard.

so to sum up
  1. that percentage of seriously mentally ill people should be verified, sounds awful high for the general population
  2. there is no evidence of that marijuana causes psychosis in any more people than alcohol, a legal substance does.
  3. if eaten ingested other than smoking it there would seem to be no harm
  4. we have dueling doctors opinions, which refute eachother
  5. in my experience there is no criminal behavior accountable to marijauna
and finally i believe this is in many ways a generational issue, i am 35 and i only know 1 person under forty who thinks marijuana is dangerous, of course he has never even seen a joint, but he has his opinions. out of thousands of criminals, i know exactly one, and only one who attends narcotics anonymous meetings because of marijuana. he claims it took too much time from his family and he felt guilty about it.
my generation grew up with “just say no” we heard all the horror stories concerning marijuana, and when we tried it, they turned out to be false.
in my experience marijuana causes no deaths, accidents, or immoral behavior. alcohol, does all these things.
smoking pot with the same moderation that one should treat alcohol with is no more of a sin than drinking
legalization is only a matter of time, as my generation assumes power it is all but assured

that said i am as devout a Catholic as any here probably farther to the right than many, if i felt i it was a sin in and of itself i would say so. but the facts i have seen with my own eyes simply dont support it.

that does not meant however that cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines, etc are not a sin, indeed they are very addictive substances, that provide the vast majority of the criminal population. these are in an entirely separate class.
 
Here are some facts:

nida.nih.gov/MarijBroch/Marijteens.html

Yes, I think there should be a return to Prohibition for alcohol. It was a good idea. The problem is addiction. Just as Opium Wars were fought in China many years ago because one group of human beings didn’t care about another group of human beings but only about the money such addiction could bring in.

Peace,
Ed
 
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