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Theo520
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What specific country are you referring to?
The standard of living has improved dramatically for the ‘poor’ in the US, generation after generation.
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The standard of living has improved dramatically for the ‘poor’ in the US, generation after generation.
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deMontfort
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Communists don’t talk about killing people: They just go out and do it…by the millions.deMontfort:
And my impression is that one is about as true as the other. There has only been one side suggesting, contrary to the Constitution that we round up, imprison, and even kill undesirable elements based on ideology on this very thread.pnewton:
Funny, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone outside of fringe neo-Nazis advocating Fascism in America…but I have heard plenty of people advocating various strains of Marxism.
Also, if you note, no one here is even suggesting that Communism is a good thing, but there are the posts that say Communists are not people and that killing them is okay. One can be pro-life without being a Communist or sympathizing with them in any way.
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Curious11
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In a sense, yes. You’re the most powerful country in the world, and you’re a democracy and a natural ally for Europe. You should be the guys to contain Russia and China if they start bullying the world, which is why I’m praying you get rid of Trump once and for all, he’s isolating the US by starting absurd trade wars and increasing tension with traditional allies.
However, “running the world” is not an excuse to do as you like, a mistake you’ve sometimes made and should learn from. No offense, we’ve all been there, I’m from Spain and believe me, we’ve been there in the past: case in point would be the useless, stupid and ruinous 80 years war, among many others.
However, “running the world” is not an excuse to do as you like, a mistake you’ve sometimes made and should learn from. No offense, we’ve all been there, I’m from Spain and believe me, we’ve been there in the past: case in point would be the useless, stupid and ruinous 80 years war, among many others.
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pnewton
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I have no idea what you mean by this, unless you are switching subjects. In this case, anything can seem reasonable if words mean so little. You went from, " heard plenty of people advocating various strains of Marxism," to Communist go out and kill people by the millions. This is thread is about America, not the history of modern Asia. You simply cannot logic jump from Americans relationship to the world and the various strains of Marxism to Stalin and Mao.
Who in the world do you think you are speaking to? Stalin is not here posting.
Who in the world do you think you are speaking to? Stalin is not here posting.
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philipl
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You need to go back and read the post then.
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pnewton
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Well, that was a rather non-fascinating, non-conversation.
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deMontfort
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Yeah, no kidding. He was the one fretting about Fascists talking about killing people.
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pnewton
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It called being pro-life. Catholics should give it a whirl. But if you can explain what Clinton or immigration had to do with the topic, please, feel free. But reading something the third or fourth time does not clarity nonsense. I did not know asking for clarification for vague one-liners was such an issue. I have not had this same issue with people of reason in the past.
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philipl
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If youre not wanting to go back and read what you posted, its not my responsibility to read it back to you.
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deMontfort
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I never mentioned Clinton so why are YOU interjecting him/her into the discussion? I was merely pointing out your hypocrisy of being frightened by the over-the-top statements on the internet, all the while people who actually have a track record of mass murder give you no worry.deMontfort:
It called being pro-life. Catholics should give it a whirl. But if you can explain what Clinton or immigration had to do with the topic, please, feel free. But reading something the third or fourth time does not clarity nonsense. I did not know asking for clarification for vague one-liners was such an issue. I have not had this same issue with people of reason in the past.
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pnewton
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Post 133 explains the first.
Post 138 references “dems” and immigration. Having read the posts several times, the only response to my inquiry as to their significance is to read them again.
I know that our society does not emphasize education, rational thought and discussion if favor of a slogan-spouting, pick-your-side polarization, but I have not yet met with such resistance for a simple question. In the interest of fairness, I will respond to what you say.
These “over-the-top” statements are not just “on the internet,” but they are on a Catholic forum, specifically, this very thread. Responding to comments made on this thread by posting on this thread should not be significant of anything beyond being a response. They do not indicate, imply or suggest anything other than what they are. So this assumption on your part that people with a track record of mass murder give me no worry is not founded in evidence. It is pure speculation and assumption based on me not be side-tracked into off-topic areas.
If there were posts on a thread about how communists ought to kill people or imprison Christians, then you would have a valid point, except then I would not be silent, as that would be the topic.
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deMontfort
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YOU extrapolated those over-the-top statements into being more worried about Fascism in this country than in Marxism. YOU sidetracked things, not me. I merely pointed out how Marxist sentiments are far more prevalent in this county than Fascists ones are, so your worries are grossly misplaced.
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pnewton
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I do not think either is very prevalent, but I do not agree with your assessment. For one thing, we have President Trump and not President Sanders. While neither is Marxists or Fascist, it is clear which side has which of this fringe support.
And President Trump is one of the greatest reasons we have no business trying to “run the world.” American exceptionalism is not compatible with the Golden Rule.
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Mary888
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who? who is America’s mini me? Don’t leave me hanging…To answer the question in the title: I don’t know. I don’t know what kind of contracts have been signed and if there is such an obligation to USA in exchange for other benefits from the other parties who signed this type of contract with the USA representatives. I know NATO kind of functions like that - the American Army are hired to intervene on one of the member countries’ side in case of conflict in exchange for that 2% of national income being sent to the military and American military products be preferred over others when spending that 2%. I know that everyone in NATO is obliged to side up with its members in case of war but actually it’s the American presence that shifts the balance and that goes without saying. But that’s just the military aspect. I don’t know about other aspects but since the headquarters of UN are in USA (on international declared soil but still…) there may exist such expectation from the country as a whole.
Who would give such a job? Not who but what. Here’s what - Contracts. I don’t know if there are any but this is a possibility.
I also what to point out that running the world and policing around the world are two different things. Some of the comments refer to USA policing around the world while the question refers to ruling.
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TK421
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I understand and agree with the basic point you’re making but if WW2 had been less successful, there would be a conversation happening right now about how America was being imperialist when it attempted to stop the legitimate unification of Europe through the Berlin project, or something of that nature (history would be whitewashed and the language made to sound more euphemistic). There were parts of Europe more friendly towards the Axis such as southern France, northern Italy, and some of Eastern Europe (and the Arab world in general), and they were ‘liberated’ anyway. Nobody was asking for permission because the objective was to win the war, not to satisfy the opinions of the locals.
So it’s almost never simple whenever there is military force involved.
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philipl
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You need to read what YOU wrote that I responded with my post. You know exactly what you wrote, you know exactly your meaning.
Another straw man that you love to post.
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pnewton
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It is not mine. I was accused of that in post 188.
And yes, post 188 really does exist.
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philipl
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Then dont take the financial assistance.
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philipl
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It such a shame that youre incapable of admitting youre wrong.
“It is sobering to think how many Americans would have made good fascists, and how many might well fall into goose-step with a man who promises to rid the country of “undesirables,” as defined by them, of course.”
You wrote that in which I replied about Clinton.
“It is sobering to think how many Americans would have made good fascists, and how many might well fall into goose-step with a man who promises to rid the country of “undesirables,” as defined by them, of course.”
You wrote that in which I replied about Clinton.
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Theo520
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This does sound like you are claiming people are more fascist now than say when Bill Clinton was also calling for a crack down on illegals.
I think American’s make good patriots but you are free to equate patriotism with fascism, it seems the rage of late (since 2016 election cycle)
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