Is it correct to say

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That because Jesus is God, he created us?

Also why did he create us?
 
Yes it would be correct to say that Jesus created us. He is one Person with two natures, human and divine.

It is also correct to say that God died on the cross.

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The world was created by the Father through the son.
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I think that’s what I’d stick with. The communication of idioms allows for us to say things like “God died in the Cross” or “God created the world.”

But it doesn’t work for saying that a different person of the Trinity did something that another person did. So I wouldn’t say “The Father died on the Cross” or “The Holy Spirit died on the Cross.” Similarly, I wouldn’t say that Jesus created the world. But the world was created through him and for him.
 
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So were all the person’s of the Trinity alive for eternity? Is one older than the other?
 
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That is correct. If one of the Persons was not eternal, then he would be a creature. The three Persons of the Trinity are God and are thus coeternal.
 
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whyeyeman:
No. The world was created by the Father through the son.
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How? How was the world created by the father through the son. I dont really understand
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Decades before John wrote his gospel, Philo had likewise taught that the Logos was the creative agent of God. Following Greek philosophical distinctions between types of causes, Philo held that God is the efficient cause, by whom the cosmos was made, while the Logos was the instrumental cause, by means of which the cosmos was made. This subtle distinction was recognized even by Paul, his contemporary, who wrote to the Corinthians of “one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.”
 
The creative Word of God. Also the Reason of God. The Greek word carries either connotation.
 
As in the pre-incarnate Son of God.

“Jesus” is the name of the incarnate Word, the name of the man when “the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us.” Do yourself a favor: when thinking about the Logos and its role, think about the pre-incarnate Son, not the post-incarnate Son. I guarantee you that doing so will be an aid to clarity.
 
I would say all three divine persons participated in the act of creation.
1 In the beginning** God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters.
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In the beginning= the Son
God created = The Father
The Spirit of God moved= The Holy Spirit
 
I see it a little differently. I see the Son, the Logos – not the Spirit – as the creative agent of God the Father.

John’s gospel states that the Logos existed “in the beginning,” but “beginning” of what? Surely not the beginning of God, for God has no beginning. The Book of Genesis opened with the same phrase, and clearly referred to the beginning of creation. I am convinced that John must have intended the same meaning for his own use of the phrase. After all, John likewise portrayed the Logos as the creative power of God, the agent through which creation was achieved: “All things came into being through him, and without him not one thing came into being.” John was simply being true to Genesis, which declared that the heavens and the earth were created by God’s word; God said “Let there be light,” and there was light; and so on.

For John, then, the Logos was God’s creative expression, and the phrase “in the beginning” meant “at the point of creation.” Therefore, when John wrote that “the Word was God,” he could be understood as describing the creative power of God.
 
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I see it a little differently. I see the Son, the Logos – not the Spirit – as the creative agent of God the Father.
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I’m sorry, I was using Gen 1 to show that all three divine persons shared in the act of creation. Not that the Holy Spirit acted alone.
Creation , made up of all creatures, brings all that is, into ‘being’. The creative act of God is proper to His Being God. All three divine persons are one in being so it is proper that they all cause the act of creation.
I agree with St Thomas when he teaches that the creative act
" the divine Persons, according to the nature of their procession, have a causality respecting the creation of things."
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I view the creative act as originating ( not to be thought of chronologically) in the Father, creation willed . The Son, who as the Word conceives what the Father wills and the creative act is completed by God loving what He wills and conceived. And so as St. Thomas teaches
" God the Father made the creature through His Word, which is His Son; and through His Love, which is the Holy Ghost. And so the processions of the Persons are the type of the productions of creatures inasmuch as they include the essential attributes, knowledge and will."
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I agree with everything you said.
But I don’t think 'in the Beginning" is only a reference to the beginning of created things

13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

Edit: removed my statement of agreement with Redfans view. I don’t believe the Holy Spirit can be excluded from the creative act of God.
 
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As an aside, regarding Mary, Jesus created His own mother. She was first conceived of in the divine intellect, then brought to flesh so as to give that flesh to her Lord - her own Son. No one has ever done that - before or since.
 
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