Is it immoral to take gov't unemployment money we didn't pay for?

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If you feel so strongly about it; DONATE the money to your church or a good cause.

It is not objectively “immoral” in your circumstances to accept the money. YOU didn’t set the rules; nor or you breaking them.

BUT let your conscience BE your guide

God Bless you
 
As a leader you would have to understand the implications of your words
I would submit he knows exactly the meaning of his words, and he knows when he speaks publicly, he is not on the “US” stage; he is on a world stage, and the Chinese Governement knows he is speaking to them.

When I have heard him speak of Wuhan virus" or Chinese virus I know exactly what he is speaking about.

Many on the left have a knee jerk reaction, and that is to label that “racist”. In fact, they use that term whenever they ;confront something they don’t like; it is New Age New Speak from the ultra left. Had he wanted to use racist language, there are ample words he could have used which are exceedingly racist.

He didn’t.
 
(that said, I’m starting to like “Chicom virus” even more than CCCP flu . . .")
Works for me.

China has been aggressive, to put it politely, in providing funding for infrastructure in 3rd world countries. Some might sing their praises for doing so; that same group is either intentionally ignorant, or intentionally supportive of Communism.

China has also been aggressively making contracts, or buying mining rights outright for various minerals, including those of presumed limited supply. Additionally, they have undercut the cost of producing critical supplies; drugs in particular. The net result is they are attempting (and likely accomplishing, to a degree) loyalty to China. And nothing gets done without strings attached.

They have already implied that they might choose to cut off critical drug supplies to the US, which companies in the US have become dependent upon as the US companies have not been able to compete in production costs.

In real world economics, a significant part of the world depends now on China to supply necessary and critical goods; and some have become reliant on China for $$$ for the mining operations. The US has become overly dependent on China as a trading partner; that goes both directions - what we produce, and what they produce.

Hopefully this is going to cause a recalculation as to how much business and under what terms the world trades with them. They are too large, and too capable to simply cut off all trading; but the world needs to stop digging the hole deeper lest it become the grave China would like to leverage.

And when it comes to controlling information, people are either ignorant of, or d not care for the implications of Google creating a search engine specifically to the wants/needs of the Chinese government, which that said government controls and censors what the Chinese people may see.

How soon we seem to forget the lesson we should have learned when the GM of the Houston Rockets tweeted support for the Hong Kong protesters; China publicly demanded the GM be fired and threatened to cut off all NBA game broadcasts in China. Given that would have meant multi millions of $$ of lost revenue to the NBA, suddenly the NBA thought that sacrificing the 1st Amendment was much less problematical than losing $$.

Had the NBA had even an ounce of intestinal fortitude, they would have organized a massive tweet storm from players, coaches, GMs, owners, and the N:BA staff supporting the Hong Kong protesters.

Instead of responding by giving an American Eagle, they rolled over and whimpered like an abused dog getting another beating.
 
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Many on the left have a knee jerk reaction, and that is to label that “racist”. In fact, they use that term whenever they ;confront something they don’t like; it is New Age New Speak from the ultra left. Had he wanted to use racist language, there are ample words he could have used which are exceedingly racist.
Let’s put it into context. Recently there were a couple of viral videos of Asians being assaulted because people thought they have the virus. Other viral videos of people moving away or covering their faces because an Asian person is near them.

With that still reeling in people’s minds, you can’t be shocked at the fact that they think ‘Chinese virus’ is an unhelpful term. As a leader you’re aware of your words. Especially when you have a fanatic group of supporters.

People already know the origin of the virus, so it’s not like calling it coronavirus is dishonest in any way. I would argue wuhan virus (which was what people called it before, including China) was a lot more fitting than the Chinese virus.

Even that stirred a lot of racism in the West. Obviously this would happen even if we had given it a fancy name, as everyone knows where it has originated, but it’s not ludicrous to suggest leaders and media be responsible about the terminology they use given the situation.
suggesting that treating this the same way we have historically treated things shows “desperately wants to attack” makes no sense
Do you genuinely think Trump isn’t saying ‘Chinese Virus’ because he wants to attack the government that he has already been at odds with? Especially given their recent comments about how US may have started it? Do you honestly believe Trump is just giving it the ‘Spanish flu’ treatment?

It’s clear as day. I would rather leaders focus on helping their people and containing the virus, than to bicker about who start it first.
 
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Oh, I absolutely believe that he’s deliberately targeting the government. (and absolutely agree that the government should be targeted for its acts of evil in suppressing information and treatment).

Criticizing or targeting a government is in no way, shape or form racist, whether the population It rules is homogenous or a single “race.”

Under these particular circumstances, I would note that the communist government there has tried to push reality down the memory hole and alter reality to not only deny its roll and responsibility, and put the blame elsewhere in order to enhance it’s roll for world domination.

However, at this point we’ve veered off topic, and anything future belongs on its own thread.
 
Oh, I absolutely believe that he’s deliberately targeting the government. (and absolutely agree that the government should be targeted for its acts of evil in suppressing information and treatment)
I agree.
Criticizing or targeting a government is in no way, shape or form racist, whether the population It rules is homogenous or a single “race.”
I didn’t say criticising the government is racist. I’m saying the term can be interpreted as racist. As racism against Asians has been increasing because of the virus, being careful of how we speak about it is important.

Trump loves his little coined phrases (sleepy Biden etc), but i don’t think you need to call it the chinese virus to show that the Chinese government is culpable to some degree. That’s all. I would argue that he simply doesn’t care enough to change it.
 
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So the money being handed out are also necessary for the economy and the wellbeing of all society members.
If I qualify I might donate a portion to President Trump’s re-election campaign. His re-election will definitely help the economy and his Pro Life stance will help the well being of all society members including the unborn.
 
They’re offering the money to you based on your tax records.

Be at peace
 
If you have paid taxes over the years then the public money that you qualify for is yours. If you are receiving public money or any money for that matter that you do not want please feel free to send it to me. I will be very happy to relieve you of any burden that any money might cause you.
 
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