Is it possible to be a good Catholic and be pro choice?

[Memaw]

They aren’t allowed to receive Holy Eucharist. Pelosi has been told by her bishop that she is not to present herself for communion. I don’t know whether the others have been told by their bishops specifically or not, but one cannot separate his public actions from his religious beliefs. You can’t say “I personally believe it’s wrong for me, but if you want to do it, you go ahead”. This is not a gray area where everybody just decides for themselves when it’s alright to kill a baby. It’s never alright.

Anyone in the state of Mortal Sin should never present themselves for Holy Communion. That is a sacrilege. They are only making things worse for themselves and others by their public bad example. Prayers for all, God Bless, Memaw

 

[Memaw]

I was inclined to say, “no”.

And it raised a larger issue.

Are there ANYgood Catholics?

The Lord told us that if we have broken any commandments we have broken all of them. We have all sinned. sinned terribly. And we will sin terribly again.

But God with his boundless mercy will take anyone with a contrite heart and a humble spirit back.

So, back to the question. I don’t know.

Is being supportive of abortion disordered, immoral, and sinful? Of course!

But, let God judge, in the end, who is “good” and who is not, and in the meantime spend more time becoming ourselves, children of God who he may say, “with whom I am well pleased.”

That’s one way to side step the issue!, we’re getting good at that!! God Bless, Memaw

 

[TEPO]

If anyone here can say the 'Our Father" while supporting pro-choice they are a hypocrite.

 

[RRusso1982]

Geez. I’m sorry I asked this. Now people are talking about heresy and not receiving Communion.

 

[10gr8kids]

[bibledrb]Jeremiah 19:4-5[/bibledrb]

I can’t imagine God being any happier with us sacrificing our children to the god of self than He was with sacrificing children to the god of Baal.

 

[Memaw]

Geez. I’m sorry I asked this. Now people are talking about heresy and not receiving Communion.

Don’t be sorry about posting it but hopefully you will learn from it. If you don’t, than you can be truly sorry. God Bless, Memaw

 

[RRusso1982]

People are making like I am a monster for feeling the way I do. I think there is a big difference in being pro abortion and encouraging, paying for, or performing abortions and feeling the way I do, that abortion is a terrible thing, and I would try to discourage someone from haveing one any day of the week but believe that if abortions were outlawed, they would happen anyway, only in back alleys, so it is a bad idea to outlaw them.

 

[polishprincess]

no.

 

[TEPO]

People are making like I am a monster for feeling the way I do. I think there is a big difference in being pro abortion and encouraging, paying for, or performing abortions and feeling the way I do, that abortion is a terrible thing, and I would try to discourage someone from haveing one any day of the week but believe that if abortions were outlawed, they would happen anyway, only in back alleys, so it is a bad idea to outlaw them.

Don’t worry, I’m a monster too. Just in other ways.
We’re all monsters in one way or another -but to refuse to see that is the greatest wrong.

…God wants us to admit our faults, and to believe in Him, and to work on change.

 

[RRusso1982]

Also, it’s not like I am ever going to run for high office, so it’s not like anything I ever do will promote abortions. It’s just my personal opinion.

 

[Diana_Catherine]

People are making like I am a monster for feeling the way I do. I think there is a big difference in being pro abortion and encouraging, paying for, or performing abortions and feeling the way I do, that abortion is a terrible thing, and I would try to discourage someone from haveing one any day of the week but believe that if abortions were outlawed, they would happen anyway, only in back alleys, so it is a bad idea to outlaw them.

Don’t feel like a monster. No one is trying to make you feel that way, at least I hope not, but the answer is, “no”. It is hard to understand but God gives us His ways for a reason because He loves us and He wants what is best for us. His merciful arms are always open and He always wants to guide us in the paths that are best for us and the Catholic church is how He does that.

As far as abortions being done in back alleys and different places, we don’t know that for sure it would continue in that way. Of course there might be some but it would be a lot less abortions then there are now. Think how many lives might be saved. If it was against the law people would be more hesitant in breaking the law and perhaps it would get people to think of some of the better options that are out there, such as adoption, getting married and having your family, parenting help, counseling that there is hope in having your baby and more. Plus there would be a lot fewer women suffering from depression and post traumatic stress syndrome. There are two victims in abortion. Two lives hurt. Both the mother and the child. It is a very sad and hurtful thing. Maybe the way it is now we think women aren’t hurt because we don’t see it physically but the mental anquish is horrific. That is why we have Rachel’s Vineyard and more. We need to bring God’s love, truth, mercy and beauty to women.

Many of the abortion clinics are unsafe today also. Look at all that happened with Dr.Gosnell. How many more like him are out there?

As someone else said, we don’t take laws off the books because people will commit them anyway, we teach people not to break the laws and then we have the laws for everyone’s, even little babies, protection.

God bless.

 

[10gr8kids]

Also, it’s not like I am ever going to run for high office, so it’s not like anything I ever do will promote abortions. It’s just my personal opinion.

Your thoughts and opinions influence many people around you and have a ripple effect. Just like throwing a small stone into still water. As our priest said today, sin takes small steps, until what was once considered so abhorrent and inconceivable is now considered good.

 

[Diana_Catherine]

Your thoughts and opinions influence many people around you and have a ripple effect. Just like throwing a small stone into still water. As our priest said today, sin takes small steps, until what was once considered so abhorrent and inconceivable is now considered good.

So, true.

 

[KrazyKat]

Your thoughts and opinions influence many people around you and have a ripple effect. Just like throwing a small stone into still water. As our priest said today, sin takes small steps, until what was once considered so abhorrent and inconceivable is now considered good.

Well said !

 

[mocap58]

I do beleive in Pro-Choice, God gave us free will, but I would hope that the mother making this choice would choose life. As for Abortion, I put the church to blame for this. Back in the the 70’s, i had girls in school come up missing and 9 months later they reappeared. You all know what I am talking about. Children born of an un-wed mother were called bastarts or the devils seed. When these children were put in orphanges they there mistreated by the nuns and others because of how they started their life. Abortion was created to cover the sin. We even had our goverments create laws for closed adoptions. Again cover the sin. If you want abortion to go away, first the church has to ask forgiveness in its stand and take responiblitiy for the past. Second all closed adoptions must be reopened and each child has the god given right to know who thier birth parents are. Third, there are many out there that say the souls enters the body at conception and others believe that when a child takes thier first breath is when the soul enters the body. I myself do not know and for you others you are going by teachings by man with no proof. What did Jesus say about abortion? I would not want to be the person to condemn an unborn child to hell.

 

[1ke]

People are making like I am a monster for feeling the way I do. I think there is a big difference in being pro abortion and encouraging, paying for, or performing abortions and feeling the way I do, that abortion is a terrible thing, and I would try to discourage someone from haveing one any day of the week but believe that if abortions were outlawed, they would happen anyway, only in back alleys, so it is a bad idea to outlaw them.

NO there isn’t. And you said you were “pro choice” in the first trimester. Murder is murder.

Why only in the first trimester? How is the baby any different after that? What reason do you use to justify murdering babies between 1-3 months gestation?

 

[johnnyc176]

Your thoughts and opinions influence many people around you and have a ripple effect. Just like throwing a small stone into still water. As our priest said today, sin takes small steps, until what was once considered so abhorrent and inconceivable is now considered good.

Very true. St. Thomas Aquinas said we never choose evil as evil but as an apparent good. It was mentioned in this excellent interview with Fr. Louis Cameli…

discerninghearts.com/?p=6726

and the book he wrote is here…

avemariapress.com/product/1-59471-272-7/The-Devil-You-Dont-Know/

 

[YADA]

People are making like I am a monster for feeling the way I do. I think there is a big difference in being pro abortion and encouraging, paying for, or performing abortions and feeling the way I do, that abortion is a terrible thing, and I would try to discourage someone from haveing one any day of the week but believe that if abortions were outlawed, they would happen anyway, only in back alleys, so it is a bad idea to outlaw them.

Did you even stop to reflect on some of the questions asked?

You said abortion should not be outlawed because people would still have abortions …

Theft is illegal - people still steal - should we decriminalize theft? Yes or no? If no why is theft different then the abortion issue?

Rape is illegal - people still commit rape - should we decriminalize rape? Yes or no? If no why is rape different then the abortion issue?

Murder is illegal - people still commit murder - should we decriminalize murder? Yes or no? If no why is this different then the abortion issue?

Does an abortion kill a human person? …
Why would a human person be less valuable in the first trimester then the second or third?

If abortion is an acceptable practice - why should it be rare?

Why do you thing being pro-abortion in theory is better then actually helping someone pay for one? If its an option you support - and an option a friend desired to initiate but could not afford and you could easily - why would you withhold the funds? or would you? How would you explain it to them?

 

[RRusso1982]

Did you even stop to reflect on some of the questions asked?

You said abortion should not be outlawed because people would still have abortions …

Theft is illegal - people still steal - should we decriminalize theft? Yes or no? If no why is theft different then the abortion issue?

Rape is illegal - people still commit rape - should we decriminalize rape? Yes or no? If no why is rape different then the abortion issue?

Murder is illegal - people still commit murder - should we decriminalize murder? Yes or no? If no why is this different then the abortion issue?

Does an abortion kill a human person? …
Why would a human person be less valuable in the first trimester then the second or third?

If abortion is an acceptable practice - why should it be rare?

Why do you thing being pro-abortion in theory is better then actually helping someone pay for one? If its an option you support - and an option a friend desired to initiate but could not afford and you could easily - why would you withhold the funds? or would you? How would you explain it to them?

I would not give the person the money. I would try to discourage that person from having the abortion. As I said, on a persnal level, I would always try to discourage the person from having an abortion.

 

[1ke]

I do beleive in Pro-Choice, God gave us free will, but I would hope that the mother making this choice would choose life.

Pray for conversion of heart.

As for Abortion, I put the church to blame for this.

Oh yes, the Church is to blame for people killing their babies.

Back in the the 70’s, i had girls in school come up missing and 9 months later they reappeared.

Yes, it was common then for girls to be responsible and do the best for the baby by giving the baby a good home with a two parent adoptive family. As opposed to KILLING their babies.

Children born of an un-wed mother were called bastarts or the devils seed.

In the movies.

When these children were put in orphanges they there mistreated by the nuns and others because of how they started their life.

Oh please.

Abortion was created to cover the sin.

OMG do you actually believe that? Abortion is thousands of years old. Sin is old, old, old. It doesn’t change that is wrong.

If you want abortion to go away, first the church has to ask forgiveness in its stand and take responiblitiy for the past.

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

What did Jesus say about abortion?

Thou Shall Not Kill

I would not want to be the person to condemn an unborn child to hell.

Is that a reason to kill him or her?