Is it true that it takes a village to raise a child?

[Lara]

To say I enjoy drama is just another way to avoid the essence of this argument. The basic claim I make is that to eat an animal and to want to eat an animal are morally equivalent. For Xanthippe to be consistent with her beliefs, she would need to become vegan.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

To say I enjoy drama is just another way to avoid the essence of this argument. The basic claim I make is that to eat an animal and to want to eat an animal are morally equivalent. For Xanthippe to be consistent with her beliefs, she would need to become vegan.

No.

There is a HUGE chasm between eating–and even hunting-- animals in a gracious way and running one’s mouth about cooking wild animals minding their own business in front of children. I do not think that the desire to eat an animal gives one the right to eye every animal as a meal. I find that absurd.

Attitude plays a role in this, as does the governing of ones tounge regarding other’s feelings, especially when you don’t agree. As an adult, one should have mastered the ability to keep random thoughts to oneself.

We all know “Santa” isn’t real. My children learn that Santa is a game played on Jesus’ birthday. We learn all about real St. Nick and his general kick-butt nature, but the red-suited fat man is pretend–like Mickey Mouse. But even as young children they know not to run their mouths and tell other children that Santa is not real (Or Mickey Mouse for that matter). If a 4-year-old can manage to be respectful of cultural norms, certainly we can expect as much out of an adult.

 

[ConfusedLucy]

Saying provocative things unnecessarily, especially to a child in the family is almost inevitably going to cause drama.

There is a time and a place for debating the ethics of meat or giving careers advice but neither of those scenarios was an appropriate situation to wade in.

 

[Xantippe]

We all know “Santa” isn’t real. My children learn that Santa is a game played on Jesus’ birthday. We learn all about real St. Nick and his general kick-butt nature, but the red-suited fat man is pretend–like Mickey Mouse.

A Protestant friend accidentally let drop that Santa was pretend while teaching a kids’ Sunday school class. He got SO much pushback from the parents.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

Saying provocative things unnecessarily, especially to a child in the family is almost inevitably going to cause drama.

There is a time and a place for debating the ethics of meat or giving careers advice but neither of those scenarios was an appropriate situation to wade in.

Yes. This.

I raise ducks. The males got turned into meat.

My niece knew she was eating the ducks I raised.

Although she ate “the duck that bit her”… three times.

I couldn’t tell the difference once they were butchered, and it did no harm to let her believe what she needed to to make peace with eating an animal.

My grandmother laughed when she heard the story. She said that her parents used the same tactic on her…she never ate the good chickens or cows…only the nasty tempered ones.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

A Protestant friend accidentally let drop that Santa was pretend while teaching a kids’ Sunday school class. He got SO much pushback from the parents.

An accident is one thing. I would be upset, but not angry. Sometimes accidents happen…it’s the natural consequence of not being completely truthful.

It’s different if an adult does it purposfully. I don’t “do” Santa and I would still keep my kids away from an adult who maliciously ruined Santa for children who participate in the fantasy.

 

[Guadalupe]

Temper temper , we are at a point were we have to be so very careful in choosing our words . We might ruffle up some one’s drawers . We might upset the sensitive child or anger someone with using the wrong word .One would be better off staying away from such pansy’s . So ridiculous .

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

Temper temper , we are at a point were we have to be so very careful in choosing our words . We might ruffle up some one’s drawers . We might upset the sensitive child or anger someone with using the wrong word .One would be better off staying away from such pansy’s . So ridiculous .

Temper?

No. There are such thing as tact and decorum. They might be dying concepts but they DO still exist.

But if you think people are pansies because they want others to be kind around their children, then they are better off without that person’s presence anyway.

 

[alice24]

I was such a child raised without the village. I didn´t had much social contact to adults beside my parents, I grew up very isolated because of multiple reason. I think it can happen that this won´t harm a child, but especially if parents aren´t able to give their children a maximum of stability and security in the world, then the result are later problems. It tooked me years to not feel alone or isolated in social groups. It tooked me also long to understand how other families and relationship beside my well known family background are working, and even longer to trust other people or not make myself dependent on others.
I won´t like to see my future children grow up without the village. I would like to choose the village, yes, but I think this was not the OP question.