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Pnwcatholic
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I don’t know who taught you that, but the Church doesnt teach that now.
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LisaB
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I have been told by multiple priests that we are to avoid unnecessary commerce on Sundays. I also heard a priest (in communion with Rome) give a homily on the matter, saying the same thing. I’ve also confessed this before (when I used to struggle to accept this teaching, which is why I asked several priests) and have never been told that I was confessing something that wasn’t a sin.
That said, the reason we should avoid shopping on Sundays is that someone has to work so that I could shop. I think online is different - an order can wait to be processed till the next business day. Just because a business chooses not to wait doesn’t mean it can’t, it just means we as a culture have lost the sense for what’s important in life and have given into consumerism at just about any cost.
That said, the reason we should avoid shopping on Sundays is that someone has to work so that I could shop. I think online is different - an order can wait to be processed till the next business day. Just because a business chooses not to wait doesn’t mean it can’t, it just means we as a culture have lost the sense for what’s important in life and have given into consumerism at just about any cost.
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LisaB
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I think religious items at churches and shrines are different because they are a sort of charity, it’s to support the church. Charity work is not only permitted but encouraged.
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MagdalenaRita
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Growing up in Catholic schools.
I think in a lot of ways the Church has just become quiet about it due to the changes in society
I usually figure if it is not a necessity I wait until Monday. It doesn’t always work out that way but I try.
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Pnwcatholic
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So you think this website encourages sin by offering sales on sunday?
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MagdalenaRita
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Some Catholic websites have it set up so that you can place an order on Sunday but the order doesn’t get processed until Monday. Perhaps CAF does that. I do not know. It would be good if they did, otherwise someone hired is probably being told they have to work on Sundays.
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Pnwcatholic
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If you go to the shop section right now they are offering a BOGO sale on Saturday and SUNDAY this week. I think it’s fine. We can eat at McDonald’s tomorrow too or buy gas, or a tv, or a christmas present for Father at Macy’s. These are not sinful things in modern times. I think the thinking of sinfulness is very much like the pharisees thought.
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The27thPsalm
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There is no reason to assume that because people do something, even reputable people, or even our own pastors, that it is okay to do it. We adjust our way of life to God, not the world.
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Pnwcatholic
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I give up. If you dont want to shop on sundays, dont. But telling others it’s wrong is not Catholic or charitable. Especially on a website that does it! It seems so hypocritical to me.
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MagdalenaRita
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As I said, it could be it is not being processed until Monday. I do not know. Just because they are doing it doesn’t make it right.
If it is a necessity I think it okay. In all charity, I do not know what modern times or the Pharisees have to do with it. It’s just about continuing to honor Sunday as the Lord’s day. In America we are used to shops being open due to becoming so secularized but in some other countries, that are more Catholic, a good portion of shops are closed.
Catholic restaurants near me are closed on Sunday.
We do not know if the people here on the forum are shopping here, and definitely not running the shop.
Again, in all charity, we will probably just have to agree to disagree.
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Pnwcatholic
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We can agree to disagree. But in the spirit of moral consistency you should not post on the forums on a sunday. It isn’t necessary work you are contributing to any webmasters or workers at Catholic answers. Plus you aren’t even buying anything! See you on monday then! 
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JanR
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Wow! Warehouse employees aren’t even allowed bathroom breaks? What employer gets away with THAT? Forcing someone to work who desperately has to relieve him- or herself, and subjecting that person to the possible humiliation of wetting or soiling, is not only indecent, it’s abuse. What about the employee who has a medical condition that requires toileting as soon as it’s necessary? I wouldn’t work for a tyrant like that!
It’s the largest online retailer in the United States.
Everything in our society is oriented towards maximizing profits and pushing everything towards its maximum tolerable limits. We need in all things to follow the Scandinavian dictum of lagom, “just enough, not too little, not too much, is good enough”. Scandinavia is not a Catholic culture but this is a concept entirely compatible with Catholicism.
In all fairness, the exploitation begins in places such as China (but not only China) where the consumer goods originate. Workers are paid as little as possible and worked to death. Then the goods are exported here and sold as cheaply as they can be sold, because people like cheap. The profits have to come from somewhere. Enter the online retail workers who are exploited as I described. And the sad thing about America is that there is always someone who is happy to do the work, and happy to be exploited — well, maybe not happy, but willing to tolerate being treated that way, under the rubric of “having a good work ethic”. It’s only too bad that we don’t have large unions (in most industries) and the concepts of general strikes and “sympathy” strikes. In some countries, the workers are extremely well-organized and strike every so often “just because”, to let management know they won’t be ignored, and to let them know “who the boss is”. France is a perfect example of this. Why not here?
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Margaret_Ann
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Why "The Lord's Day" should be separate from "the weekend" --Aleteia
St. John Paul II believed that a "weekend" mentality can distract us from honoring God on Sunday.
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Margaret_Ann
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This is the encyclical of PJPII on Sunday: Why the Lord's Day should be separate from the weekend
Good night everyone!
Good night everyone!
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thistle
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For your information Christians do not keep the Sabbath. That is on Saturday and Jews keep the Sabbath.
Christians keep the Lord’s Day which is a Sunday.
Frankly, you have been taught the wrong thing if you think shopping whether online or physically on Sundays is a sin. It is not a sin and the Church does not teach shopping on Sundays is a sin.
If you wish not to shop on Sundays that is a choice you can make personally but you cannot tell or imply to Catholics that if they shop on Sundays they commit a sin. That is wrong.
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mythbuster1
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Because before the stores would stay open on Thanksgiving, people got trampled to death each Black Friday. The whole obsession is madness, but it is better that the stores remain open on Thanksgiving than that someone should die in a stampede Friday morning.
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mythbuster1
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For starters, it’s illegal. Going on strike because of a labor dispute you are not party to is not a protected labor practice, which means your employer can punish you for participating in such a strike, up to and including firing you for being AWOL. Second, shutting down production for labor disputes they are not a party to is not in the workers’ interests, as it reduces their income and increases the cost of living. Even in a labor dispute you are party to, striking should be a last resort because it hurts everybody, including the workers on strike.
I did not know sympathy strikes were illegal. Thank you for clarifying this.
I would like to see far more union membership, union activity, and collective bargaining than exists in today’s workplace. I find the early 20th-century concept of “One Big Union” to be very interesting, and while I abhor atheistic communism and socialism — I’ve seen first-hand how that turns out, and the effect it has on a society — I would like to see a society in which labor has the final say, and essentially runs the country, a country where capital has to go to labor with a sense of respect, or as Leo XIII said in Rerum novarum, “capital cannot do without labor, and labor cannot do without capital”. Look at what the workers of Poland were able to accomplish by all sticking together — my son’s grandfather, a man for whom I have the deepest respect, was a member of Solidarity. Poland has a social cohesion and a sense of “we’re all in this together, so we’ve got to stick together” that does not exist, and possibly cannot exist, in the US.
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