Is Jesus God?

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DonLeon said:
HUH???

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The poster referenced that we need to read the shack. Although I haven’t read it yet, it is on my summer reading list.

The book is supposed to be a very good read, but some of the theology is a little questionable, especially the part where God is a woman. :eek: I hope I’m not confusing stories.
 
Jesus, calls God the Father “God” (John 20:17)
Apostle Thomas called Jesus “God” when he revealed himself to Thomas after the Resurrection (John 20:28)
Apostle John wrote that Jesus is God (John 1:1-3)
Cross ref John 1:14 (Apostle John) with 1 Tim 3:16 (Apostle Paul) in that God became flesh and Blood. Cross ref Heb 2:14

The Trinity (Father,Son,Holy Spirit) were all present at Jesus Baptism (Matt 3:16-17)
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1 John 3:16 teaches that Christians know the “Love of God” because “He” (God) died for them

So, yes, the answer to your question is Jesus Christ “is” God.
 
The late - and great - theologian, Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P., in his book Our Savior and His Love for Us, presents a nice summation of the Lord’s own claims to divinity:
  1. Jesus accepted adoration (Matt. 8:2; 28:9; Mark 5:6), of which Peter, Paul, and Barnabas - and even the angels in the Apocalypse - declared themselves unworthy.
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  1. He is superior to all creatures: greater than Jonas, than Solomon, than David, than Moses, than Elias, than John the Baptist; and He is superior to the angels, who are “His angels” (Matt. 24:31).
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  1. He demands with regard to Himself, faith, obedience, and love, even to the abnegation of any contrary affection and to the sacrifice of one’s life.
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  1. He spoke as the supreme Lawgiver, in the Sermon on the Mount.
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  1. He performed miracles in His own name.
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  1. He claimed the power to remit sins and has conferred this power on others.
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  1. He claimed the power to judge the living and the dead of all human generations.
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  1. He promised to send the Holy ghost, and His promise was accomplished on Pentecost
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Jesus can claim these rights and powers only if He is not merely God’s envoy, the Messiah, but God Himself. He affirmed His Godhead only in a veiled manner in order to prepare souls little by little to receive a more explicit affirmation, which was to become increasingly clear and powerful up to the moment of His condemnation to death.
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NotWorthy said:
The poster referenced that we need to read the shack. Although I haven’t read it yet, it is on my summer reading list.

The book is supposed to be a very good read, but some of the theology is a little questionable, especially the part where God is a woman. :eek: I hope I’m not confusing stories.
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OK…I’ve been recommended to read the book, but I didn’t know that God is a woman (??). Now I’m suspicious. Thanks for the info.

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jcrichton said:
It seems that you have the correct answer already: Alpha and Omega means Beginning and End: Jesus is Eternal, in Him there is no Beginning and no End–that’s why God can state to Moses that His Name is “I AM.”

I think your problem is mixing non-Christian religions with Christ; non-Christians desire that Christ be seen only as a man with some special abilities. Christians must accept only that Christ is God.

I find that the worst thing a Catholic can do is saturate his/her mind with “intellectualism” rather than his/her Faith.

Study the Sacred Scriptures intently and begin a prayerful life; as you stay away from anti-Christian teachings the Holy Spirit will aide you in your quest for the Truth; the Holy Spirit does not reveal God’s Mysteries simply to satisfy our curiosity!

Maran atha!

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Yes He is God.
 
DonLeon said:
OK…I’ve been recommended to read the book, but I didn’t know that God is a woman (??). Now I’m suspicious. Thanks for the info.

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I heard its a really great read. Just don’t let it affect your theology.
 
Good Gosh!!! How much more proof is needed that Jesus is God? HE SAID HE IS GOD AND I BELIEVE HIM AND THAT’S THAT!
END!
FINISH!
DONE!
COMPLETE!
OVER!

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Shalom Aleichem
 
NotWorthy said:
When Jesus had said this, he raised his eyes to heaven and said, "Father, the hour has come. Give glory to your son, so that your son may glorify you, just as you gave him authority over all people, so that he may give eternal life to all you gave him. Now this is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

This is interesting. How do you claim that this disputes the claim that Jesus is God? What does John say in the first chapter of his Gospel.

***In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… ***And the Word became flesh.
Hahaha, can you read or understand? 😉

Jesus is God, Jesus is man. What’s the confusion?
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ohhh. yeah. i will just answer by other way, just check this out iglesianicristo.ws/ and find “The True God Never Became Man”
i think this would be interesting to you and to others! woaahh. because if i will explain it to you one by one, i think i will be finished tomorow! just if you have time. and if you are desperate to prove that jesus is the only one true god. that because only of miracles that jesus had done, then many will believe that jesus is god? or the father? how about moises, is moises a god also because of the miracles he had done? …and even others in the bible that done miracles, are they gods?? hahah well, i am not surprised that your church maybe have statues or pictures of jesus and even saints that you are worshipping…
 
read_me said:
ohhh. yeah. i will just answer by other way, just check this out iglesianicristo.ws/ and find “The True God Never Became Man”
i think this would be interesting to you and to others! woaahh. because if i will explain it to you one by one, i think i will be finished tomorow! just if you have time. and if you are desperate to prove that jesus is the only one true god. that because only of miracles that jesus had done, then many will believe that jesus is god? or the father? how about moises, is moises a god also because of the miracles he had done? …and even others in the bible that done miracles, are they gods?? hahah well, i am not surprised that your church maybe have statues or pictures of jesus and even saints that you are worshipping…
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If it means re-writing the Bible and/or Christian History like I suspect it will, then why should I even worry about heretical works? 🤷 hahaha
 
NotWorthy said:
If it means re-writing the Bible and/or Christian History like I suspect it will, then why should I even worry about heretical works? 🤷 hahaha
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another evidence… can you explain what is in luke 10: 21-22?? haha
i wish this may not be hard for you…

**21At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

22"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."**

ok? 🙂
i wish you would not say that jesus is talking to his self or he is facing at a mirror. (huh?? haha) he is talking to the father/god, the almighty… how can you say that jesus is the true and only one god? hmmmm… jesus is a man, yes! but not god…
 
read_me said:
another evidence… can you explain what is in luke 10: 21-22?? haha
i wish this may not be hard for you…

**21At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

22"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."**

ok? 🙂
i wish you would not say that jesus is talking to his self or he is facing at a mirror. (huh?? haha) he is talking to the father/god, the almighty… how can you say that jesus is the true and only one god? hmmmm… jesus is a man, yes! but not god…
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Read me, Read the below! Here are some quotes where Jesus himself declares that he is god! Hope it won’t be too hard for you…👍
  • Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12 - Jesus tells satan, “you shall not tempt the Lord your God” in reference to Himself.
  • Matt. 18:20 - Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them.
  • Matt. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:70 - Jesus acknowledges that He is the Son of God.
  • Matt. 28:20 - Jesus said He is with us always, even unto the end of the world. Only God is omnipresent.
  • John 5:18 - Jesus claimed to be God. The Jews knew this because Jesus called God His Father and made Himself equal to God. This is why Jesus was crucified.
To be continued…
 
Continued, here are some old testament comparisons for you as well.
  • Exodus 3:14 - God says “I AM who I AM” - John 8:58 - Jesus says “Before Abraham was, I AM” in reference to Himself.
  • Deut. 32:39; 1 Sam. 2:6 - the Lord kills and makes alive again and raises up - John 5:21 - the Son raises and gives life.
  • Psalm 19:7 - the law of the Lord is perfect - Gal. 6:2 - fulfill the law of Christ.
  • Psalms 110:1 - the Lord (Yahweh) said to my Lord - Jesus = Yhwh - Acts 2:34-36 - God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ.
  • Isaiah 7:14 - a virgin will bear a Son named Emmanuel which means “God is with us” - Matt. 1:23 - this Son is Jesus Christ, God in the flesh.
There are dozens more if you would like to know more?
 
read_me said:
another evidence… can you explain what is in luke 10: 21-22?? haha
i wish this may not be hard for you…

**21At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

22"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."**

ok? 🙂
i wish you would not say that jesus is talking to his self or he is facing at a mirror. (huh?? haha) he is talking to the father/god, the almighty… how can you say that jesus is the true and only one god? hmmmm… jesus is a man, yes! but not god…
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Well, we start with the fact that Jesus is a Jew and go from there. How else would a Jew reveal God except by behaving like a Jewish prophet? The gospels show us a Jesus who gradually reveals his true identity. Even the pagans grasp the idea of gods walking among them. Jesus,however, reveals himself as a man whose relationship to the ONE God of Israel is that of son to a Father, that we must aim at a relationship like his,
a perfect dialogue with the Father. On the mount of the configuration, Peter wanted to set up three altaras, on for Moses, One for Elijah, and one for Jesus. But he was confused because he could not understand that he has seen what Moses and Elijah had seen, which was the face of God. Not until the Resurrection did he “get” it. Her had seen the Lord but through “a veil” so to speak , the veil being the man Jesus.
 
Louie1983 said:
Read me, Read the below! Here are some quotes where Jesus himself declares that he is god! Hope it won’t be too hard for you…👍
  • Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12 - Jesus tells satan, “you shall not tempt the Lord your God” in reference to Himself.
  • Matt. 18:20 - Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them.
  • Matt. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:70 - Jesus acknowledges that He is the Son of God.
  • Matt. 28:20 - Jesus said He is with us always, even unto the end of the world. Only God is omnipresent.
  • John 5:18 - Jesus claimed to be God. The Jews knew this because Jesus called God His Father and made Himself equal to God. This is why Jesus was crucified.
To be continued…
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are your statements… contradicting… right?
you said,

“Here are some quotes where Jesus himself declares that he is god!”

then…
  • Matt. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:70 - Jesus acknowledges that He is the Son of God.
and i must quoted your verse…
  • Matt. 4:7 Jesus tells satan, “you shall not tempt the Lord your God” in reference to Himself.
the phrase what i was bold is not written in the bible!!

instead, i will show you proofs, BUT while you are reading these,
you must THINK , understand and you must be open minded,
you know what i am trying to say, huh??

in matthew…

matthew 4:1-10…

1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.
3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the** Son **of God, tell these stones to become bread.”
4 Jesus answered, "It is written: ‘People do not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written:
" ‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’
7 Jesus answered him, "It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
10 Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’

and i will ask you, still not convincing?? just say so and i will give you more proofs!
 
THE CONTINUATION.

to other: dont just copy and paste the verses you are believing of…
like what denwiles (username,member on this site) point out…
“I and my Father are ONE.”
–Jesus Christ, John 10:30

he did not complete it, even continue it!
this is john 10:29-36…

29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
30I and the Father are one."
31Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him,
32but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’[e]?
35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken
36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

…OKAY??
 
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