Is LifeSiteNews anti-Francis?

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Annie said:
So we should try to give someone something he himself refused?
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I don’t see how you can know that - only Jesus knows what is in a person’s heart. We are all sinners. If the same standard were applied to the rest of us, precious few people would receive Church funerals.
 
We humans can tell what is in a person’s heart only by its outward manifestation. If I say no, I don’t want ice cream, thank you, then I can not reasonably later get mad at you for not giving me ice cream, can I?
 
I do.hate to do this to you, but here is what you wrote on another thread Slaves who never knew of freedom may be more satisfied than on who was enslaved, but remains a slave. Slavery to sexual sin can be a bondage like that. Until the Son of God sets one free, they do not realize they are living in slavery. Only then can the true joy of freedom be known. This is the Gospel.

So you are saying that those who chose the slavery of sin over Our Lord should not be refused a Catholic funeral?
 
Annie said:
We humans can tell what is in a person’s heart only by its outward manifestation. If I say no, I don’t want ice cream, thank you, then I can not reasonably later get mad at you for not giving me ice cream, can I?
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I do not understand your analogy, and I do not agree with the premise as it applies to the subject. It does little to answer my question on how one can know who has and has not sought repentance. I think we call all agree that dying is a significant life-altering event, enough that one’s past consumption of ice cream would hardly seem relevant.
 
Annie said:
So you are saying that those who chose the slavery of sin over Our Lord should not be refused a Catholic funeral?
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Yes, but that the question remains who dies in this state of slavery. This reason for denying a funeral is too close to make a final judgment on one’s soul for me.
 
Then you are fortunate to be something other than a bishop.

If your question is how {can one} know who has and has not sought repentance, the only thing we can know is if the person has done so outwardly, so that would be the criteria.

Clearly we can not tell what a person does interiorly, which is why, iirc, canonization is not infallible.
 
Perhaps this paragraph from the CCC will help:

1683 The Church who, as Mother, has borne the Christian sacramentally in her womb during his earthly pilgrimage, accompanies him at his journey’s end, in order to surrender him “into the Father’s hands.” She offers to the Father, in Christ, the child of his grace, and she commits to the earth, in hope, the seed of the body that will rise in glory. 184 This offering is fully celebrated in the Eucharistic sacrifice; the blessings before and after Mass are sacramentals.
 
No. It was patently clear,both in context,and given the reality addressed.
Not often does a Pope as Benedict address us as a people as he did then so directly as that time so as to involve us under such dire circumstances.
Not colloquial,not superficial,not informal.
It didn t go unnticed, at all. And necessary .
How can poverty take just a simple exclamation as if passing by or a comment by a Pope?No way. Their words shook us deeply.
 
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I’m not saying it was a simple exclamation or passing comment; I’m just saying that it is not an example of people leading other people into committing acts by their example. The extreme poverty when there is extreme wealth is simply the other sort of scandal, not this particular type of scandal. That doesn’t make the extreme difference between the poor and the rich any less bad, only a different sort of thing.
 
How could anyone seriously deny that lifesitenews stands against the Holy Father?
 
pnewton said:
You do have a point I think bears notice; the idea of treating all sins equally. I would have to question the justice of any rule a bishop has that is not equitable. Would the same diocese refuse funerals for heterosexuals who died while still living with another in cohabitation? Would the same hold true for those who were remarried outside the Church living in adultery?
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Maybe it would help to read the linked article. Bishop Paprocki clarifies his answers.
 
Luke6_37 said:
I am not judging Bishop Paprocki based on false assumptions. It’s his diocese to run. If LGBTQ Catholics are not welcome there, they are better off moving to Chicago.
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Your statement above is another false assumption about Bishop Paprocki.

Besides, my comment was based on the writer of the article and not Father McNamara’s. You know, the writer that said the Bishop should be sacked - Michael Sean Winters from NCR.

I quoted Father McNamara because he mentioned cannon law - which the Bishop is a cannon lawyer.

It’s also interesting to note that Bishop Paprocki says the same thing that that you quote Father McNamara as saying.
 
Luke6_37 said:
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Annie:
So we should try to give someone something he himself refused?
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I don’t see how you can know that - only Jesus knows what is in a person’s heart. We are all sinners. If the same standard were applied to the rest of us, precious few people would receive Church funerals.
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Speak for yourself… I go monthly to confession sometimes more. My Priest knows me. He sees me at Mass and Church functions all the time. If I die my priest has a pretty good Idea where my heart and head were at.

Annie made a very valid point. He himself has rejected the Church and her mission, not sure why the Church would force itself on him/her now. Respect his decision it is not up to the parents to decide for him. If he wanted a catholic funeral, be catholic.
 
I don’t think they necessarily stand against the Holy Father as much as speak to many of the contradictory messages he sends and the confusion that is being forced unto the church by himself and many of his advisers. So many Catholics know their faith more now than ever before in the West. They see the contradictions and will not falter. God will not forsake his church.
 
Luke6_37 said:
I have nothing against sharks, but they are generally considered to be predatory & cold blooded. If that wasn’t your intention, then maybe it wasn’t a wise choice for an avatar.
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So are Northern cricket frogs. Got something against using them as avatars, too?


For someone so concerned about environmental issues you appear to have little to no respect for the creatures that inhabit nature.
 
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