Is marching in a gay pride parade sinful?

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Sweeney said:
So Catholics must no longer patronize florists, interior decorators, hairdressers, airlines that have male flight attendants, art galleries, etc.?:rolleyes:
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I don’t think if I get my haircut by a gay stylist, am I advocating the gay lifestyle. Gay people need to make a living, like heterosexuals. Marching in a parade, however, shows that I personally advocate and support the lifestyle. I don’t compare gay people making livings, to my willingness or non willingness to march in a gay parade.
 
whatevergirl said:
I don’t think if I get my haircut by a gay stylist, am I advocating the gay lifestyle. Gay people need to make a living, like heterosexuals. Marching in a parade, however, shows that I personally advocate and support the lifestyle. I don’t compare gay people making livings, to my willingness or non willingness to march in a gay parade.
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Sweeny was being sarcastic, and even apologized for that comment.
 
shadow_fire said:
Thats true.

What if the parade just wanted equality and to try to fight discrimination against gay people? (with no sexual themes present) then would it be a sin?
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If equality means gay marriage, then yes - still a sin. In my experience gay pride parades aren’t that narrow though. They are usually marching for complete equality and acceptance of the gay lifestyle. We can’t support that.
 
rlg94086 said:
If equality means gay marriage, then yes. In my experience gay pride parades aren’t that narrow though. They are usually marching for complete equality and acceptance of the gay lifestyle. We can’t support that.
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By gay lifestyle you mean gay sex, right? because if not I must insist that the gay lifestyle is no different (at least for me) then the straight life style, except my lover is of the same gender as I.
 
shadow_fire said:
By gay lifestyle you mean gay sex, right? because if not I must insist that the gay lifestyle is no different (at least for me) then the straight life style, except my lover is of the same gender as I.
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Of course the gay lifestyle includes sex, but it is more than that. We also don’t support gay marriage (with or without sex). We don’t support cohabitation between two people in a sexual relationship outside of marriage (since gay marriage is out, so is gay cohabitation 😉 ).
 
rlg94086 said:
Of course the gay lifestyle includes sex, but it is more than that. We also don’t support gay marriage (with or without sex). We don’t support cohabitation between two people in a sexual relationship outside of marriage (since gay marriage is out, so is gay cohabitation 😉 ).
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Hmmmm, so that would mean (at this point) what I have done with my boyfriend (nothing sexual yet) isn’t sinful until we express our love, correct?
 
shadow_fire said:
No problem, your not the first to mistake his comment (even after he clarified)😃
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😃 ha–I need to read through entire threads. It’s like I just can’t do it!

You’re in my prayers, shadow. I can’t tell you how to live your life, but I do know there to be absolute truths…Truths that God wants so much for us to live. Even if one feels he/she is called to the gay lifestyle, born into it, etc…one needs to turn those feelings to God…and ask God…‘what should I do?’ Logically, I don’t see God accepting two contrasting lifestyles…largely and mainly due to the fact that gays physically can never be open to life. He made man and woman to create children. Now, that debate can go back and forth to…well, how about heterosexuals who can’t have kids? True. But, we live in an imperfect, fallen world. God created man and woman, with ***the intent ***to create life together…naturally. So…that being said…I think that the gay lifestyle simply cannot provide life…through the union of a man and a man…or a woman and a woman. It is impossible. The union cannot produce life. Yes, they can have artificial insemination…but with that, I would imagine (if I were gay, I would struggle with this) that there has to be a guilty feeling in just ‘re’ creating my life out of the natural order.

It’s more than a lifestyle issue for me…when I think about God’s vision for a marriage…part of that vision is to have the ability to have children…through a natural union.

So…there’s my 2 cents. Not looking to really debate it, but just wanted to share that because it’s important to understand why a Catholic thinks the way he/she does about this.
 
whatevergirl said:
😃 ha–I need to read through entire threads. It’s like I just can’t do it!

You’re in my prayers, shadow. I can’t tell you how to live your life, but I do know there to be absolute truths…Truths that God wants so much for us to live. Even if one feels he/she is called to the gay lifestyle, born into it, etc…one needs to turn those feelings to God…and ask God…‘what should I do?’ Logically, I don’t see God accepting two contrasting lifestyles…largely and mainly due to the fact that gays physically can never be open to life. He made man and woman to create children. Now, that debate can go back and forth to…well, how about heterosexuals who can’t have kids? True. But, we live in an imperfect, fallen world. God created man and woman, with ***the intent ***to create life together…naturally. So…that being said…I think that the gay lifestyle simply cannot provide life…through the union of a man and a man…or a woman and a woman. It is impossible. The union cannot produce life. Yes, they can have artificial insemination…but with that, I would imagine (if I were gay, I would struggle with this) that there has to be a guilty feeling in just ‘re’ creating my life out of the natural order.

It’s more than a lifestyle issue for me…when I think about God’s vision for a marriage…part of that vision is to have the ability to have children…through a natural union.

So…there’s my 2 cents. Not looking to really debate it, but just wanted to share that because it’s important to understand why a Catholic thinks the way he/she does about this.
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I don’t believe in prayer or homosexuality being immoral, but thank you for the thought 🙂

I’m probably going to adopt when I’m older, after all theres so many starving children in the world, and if I can take in a child and make his life nice and shield him from the sadness of poverty then I believe thats a good thing to do, even if I’m not creating a new life.

Again thank you for the prayer and thought despite how I don’t agree with it, you seem like a kind person, thank you. 😃
 
Hmmmm, so that would mean (at this point) what I have done with my boyfriend (nothing sexual yet) isn’t sinful until we express our love, correct?
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Hi, It really doesn’t matter what the individuals here say, the original question should have been " What does the Church teach" thats the bottom line. I am sorry if you don’t like the answers that you receive here. Any sexual relations between same sex couples is a sin…full stop. No ones opinion here can change that it has always been that way and will always be.

God Bless.🙂
 
rlg94086 said:
Of course the gay lifestyle includes sex, but it is more than that. We also don’t support gay marriage (with or without sex). We don’t support cohabitation between two people in a sexual relationship outside of marriage (since gay marriage is out, so is gay cohabitation 😉 ).
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Does that mean an ssa individual is not permitted to live with anyone?
 
Sweeney said:
How about intolerant, judgemental, un-Christian behaviour, Bob?

I could let you folks know when and where the Phelps’ are picketing here, in case any of you would like to join in.
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Oh my-how quickly the Phelps card is played! You really do want to shut down the discussion dont you?

How else would one judge someone marching in a homosexual pride parade other than they are supporting the sin of homosexual behavior
 
goofyjim said:
Does that mean an ssa individual is not permitted to live with anyone?
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Well to be fair the fact that gays cannot reproduce isn’t the only reason the chuch is against us.

Leviticus 20:13… “If a man lie with a man, as he would with a woman, they both commit abomination: they shall be put to death.”
 
Leviticus 20:13… “If a man lie with a man, as he would with a woman, they both commit abomination: they shall be put to death.”
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Is this the set up to the slave quotes and such from the Old Testament…Sorry but your at a Catholic site, this is Mosaic law.
 
Mangy_Donkey said:
Is this the set up to the slave quotes and such from the Old Testament…Sorry but your at a Catholic site, this is Mosaic law.
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Fortunately we do not have laws like this here. I think it is unfair to inflict capital punishment for homosexual acts.
 
shadow_fire said:
Hmmmm, so that would mean (at this point) what I have done with my boyfriend (nothing sexual yet) isn’t sinful until we express our love, correct?
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goofyjim:
Does that mean an ssa individual is not permitted to live with anyone?
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Excellent questions. The Catechism isn’t clear on that in the section on homosexuality, but I found someone who asked the same question on the Ask an Apologist forum. Fr. Serpa gave this answer:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=5008
Theoretically a person withhomosexual tendencies may live with a life-long partner in a celibate relationship. I say “theoretically” because practically this may very difficult to achieve, especially if the individuals are young. The mere physical proximity to each other could be a continual occasion of sin. However, if they center themselves on the Lord and avoid whatever would lead them to sin, it is possible for them live a holy life. I know of some such older couples who do. Of course, these don’t make the headlines. With grace, all things are possible.
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Interestingly, Peggy Frye gave a different answer than to a heterosexual person who asked the same question:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=72049
Q: What if the a man and his girlfriend did not have any sexual relationship for the entire period of cohabitation?
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Even if a couple does not engage in sexual relations for the entire time of cohabitation, their “shacking up” gives scandal and can be become an occassion of sin. For “the person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor’s tempter. He damages virtue and integrity; he may even draw his brother into spiritual death. Scandal is a grave offense if by deed or omission another is deliberately led into a grave offense"(CCC no. 2284). “Temptations to sin are sure to come; but woe to him by whom they come!” Luke 17:1
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I hope that is helpful.

Pax,
Robert
 
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