Is Space Exploration Worth the Cost?

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AdamP88 said:
I think you’re into tinfoil hat territory here.

Also I would say that there’s nothing in scripture that says we can’t travel in space.
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What do you think of Psalms 115:16?

Only satan (after taking the dominion away from Adam) was allowed to travel between earth and Heaven (see Job 1 & 2, 1 Kings 22:19-22; 2 Chronicles 18:18-22) until the Cross, see Revelation 12:10,12). After the Cross, satan is trapped down here (earth), in the pit, 1 Peter 5:8.

As for the first material, I once believed as you, without any thought to question. It was only once I was to consider in detail the evidences. I am not here to convince you, or any. I have given a very brief window into the information available.

Even if I had none of the information presented in the video/source material, I have the scripture, and I believe what it says about the matter.

The easiest way to dismiss something is to belittle it, but that is no evidence against what was shared from scripture, neither in the video/source material.

The subject of the OP is the cost effectiveness of ‘space exploration’, and not necessarily ‘did man set foot on the moon’ (he didn’t), but was included as evidence towards answering the OP’s question. If material presented is accurate, then there is a serious issue in regards ‘cost’. This was the primary intention of sharing the data. If you desire to look at the material, it may be best to do so in another place.
 
MonteRCMS said:
If anyone wants to use scripture … they MUST use the Hebrew and Greek texts.
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Where do you get such an idea from, if I may ask?

See Matthew 28:19; Acts 2:6,8; 1 Corinthians 12-14, Revelation 14:6. How is the Gospel, and what Jesus said, taught and did to go to all languages, if it is bound in dead (little to no use) languages? What was the use of the gift of languages to preach, teach and share the word unto them, if all had (must) to learn Hebrew and Koine Greek?

The Catholic church, even uses as its primary text, “latin” (either Jerome’s so-called ‘vulgate’) or the Douay Rheims (Jesuit). Admittedly, Jeromes’ is a personal work, which combines some of Origen’s Hexapla, even as Helvidius pointed out, with some of the vetus latina (original Latin “vulgate”).
 
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TheOldColonel said:
I think space exploration is worth the cost. I’ve already started working on it. 😎
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What I personally see in this, is a counterfeit to the Throne of God, the Son as Advocate, the 4 living Creatures surrounding the throne, and the host of heavenly warriors all gathered before the tribunal of the Imperial Order (a counterfeit of God, Son (Staff), Holy Ghost (as the non-humanoid Robot) Hosts and Legions of Light), while the “resistance” is in “rebellion” and counted as the good guys (aka, Satan and his Legions of Lie-ght).
 
Salmonslayer said:
Yeah. Because that actually happened :roll_eyes:
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Yeah…our own security services believe this is true. I don’t understand the Republican resistance to this. No one is looking to invalidate the 2016 election results based on this, so why such resistance? A few decades ago, during the Cold War, the Republicans especially would have been all over this. Does it not bother you that a foreign power, who is not working for our national interests, likely has been messing with our democracy? Even Facebook, whose service is widely believed to be misappropriated for election tampering, is beginning to take this seriously.
 
The question is moot, because space exploration is never going to happen. Man is physically and psychologically incapable of surviving space travel. (No, being in orbit at an altitude of less than 5% of the earth’s diameter does not count as space travel.)

What is happening, and what will continue to happen, is the pretense of space exploration, whatever the cost. The motivation is not economical, so to wonder whether it is “worth it” is pointless.
 
Salmonslayer said:
We do the same stuff in other countries elections. No one changed their vote over it.

What I don’t understand is how people can get so worked up over this topic, and yet still resist voter ID laws.
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Whatever we do or not do in other counties is not really relevant here. We spy on foreign countries, we intercept their communications, etc. That is generally illegal in this county without a court warrant. Should we change that here?

As for the voter ID laws, why such the recent interest? There are near zero instances, certainly ones that decide elections. Forget any racial inequity, by adding another layer towards voting can disenfranchise voters who have limited ability to obtain the required ID, the home bound are a great example. If there was a concerted effort to support these folks (e.g. transporting them to the required locations) the we might have something, but we don’t. Going back to the racial issue, true or perceived, there has been a long history of suppression of the black vote, the poll tax and literacy laws are just a few examples. Back in the day it sound just as appropriate to require voters to be able to read so as to understand the issue. But this was disenfranchising for the mere fact that few black people could read or write.
 
Roguish said:
The question is moot, because space exploration is never going to happen. Man is physically and psychologically incapable of surviving space travel. (No, being in orbit at an altitude of less than 5% of the earth’s diameter does not count as space travel.)

What is happening, and what will continue to happen, is the pretense of space exploration, whatever the cost. The motivation is not economical, so to wonder whether it is “worth it” is pointless.
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I agree. One issue is the “Van Allen’s” (radiation) which still give them issues that they do not know how to work around, and are still trying to figure out how to lift lead shielding. Some even still think mev electrons from Operation Starfish Prime might still be a contributing factor also, and that is just one - List of artificial radiation belts - Wikipedia
 
One potential future advancement might be a light weight shielding solution. That would have benefits in medical industry, and several other industries as well.

Need often drives innovation.
 
It’s totally worth it for those of us who don’t want to live on this planet anymore.
 
What’s with all the negativity? I think that God would love us to explore universe, although in our current state (after the Original Sin) we would probably drag our problems and spread them through the whole galaxy.

Is it worth the cost – was the voyages of Columbus worth it?
 
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I think it’s really cool and that a manned mission to Mars or even a modern day mission to the Moon would be a massive achievement for humanity…

But I also think that with all the ways those billions of dollars could be spent doing things which make a difference to peoples lives here on earth, space missions seem like a frivolous waste of resources.
 
First, NASA has the smallest budget of any federal agency. I mean were talking percentages of a penny or what other agencies get. The Space agency in general along with the military has given us almost all of our modern technology. I will read the article when I get a chance but what I stated above has been general knowledge for a very long time.
Secondly, it is in our nature as a species to explore new lands. Now all we have left to explore is space and the oceans. The space agency creates jobs through both the agency itself and private companies that support NASA.
Thirdly it gives us as a nation, or other nations that are involved in space exploration something totally around and national pride. It brings countries together they mutual exchange of science and technology.
So yes I say it is worth it. I truly believe GOD created other life out there and it would be great to discover it if in fact we are able to .
 
bassmansteiny said:
I truly believe GOD created other life out there and it would be great to discover it if in fact we are able to .
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I am already here, and i must say, apart from the food, i’d prefer it if my people came back and took me home.
 
Human beings are funny. Little did they know that the planet earth has been a dumping ground for criminals, exiles, and undesirables for the last million years. To us, the planet earth is a prison.

The whole solar system is off limits.
 
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If that asteroid happens in the next 100 years. But after that we will be able to move it out of earth’s path.
 
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