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anon67074017
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The Southern states are a band of brothers fighting for their liberty and common values.
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GEddie
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Methinks you misplaced your flux capacitor.
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GEddie
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Actually, given the Putinist drive to regain his nation’s position of world leadership, there’s a good chance they would plow in, the dismemberment of the USA being a means of ensuring that the revised CCCP would go unchallenged for centuries this time.
People who think the old Confederacy would ever rise again, or that Russia would have any non-ulterior interest in reactionary American ideology, are kidding themselves hard.
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People who think the old Confederacy would ever rise again, or that Russia would have any non-ulterior interest in reactionary American ideology, are kidding themselves hard.
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anon67074017
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The Soviet Union will not come back anytime soon. They are too far away from its ideology now.
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GEddie
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A revised CCCP is infinitely more likely than the revised CSA some seem to yearn for, given that the current leader of Russia is an ex-Soviet and has been actively seeking to restore the Union’s former geography, while the leadership **and **ideology of the CSA are both long gone.
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CatholicSheila
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This. Americans seem to take this ‘competition’ much more seriously than the rest of the world and do so constantly. We don’t even seem to realise it is a competition until an American reminds us.
I can list a spew of reasons why the US is not the greatest nation. I don’t see a need to because why does it matter? There is a lot wrong with the US, just as there is a lot that is great about the US. All western nations have good and bad points. We should celebrate the good of our nations and do all we can to improve the bad.
I’ve never understood the US desire to declare to everyone they’re ‘the greatest’. It just makes Americans seem arrogant and naive. Naive because most won’t know enough abut every other contender to make such a determination. I know this because I see lists about why the US is the greatest and they’re rarely things that are unique to the US.
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EleanorArr
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Everyone at some level maybe wants to think they live in a great or ‘the greatest’ country, and there’s nothing wrong with that especially if it motivates people to make their country even better!I’ve never understood the US desire to declare to everyone they’re ‘the greatest’. It just makes Americans seem arrogant and naive. Naive because most won’t know enough abut every other contender to make such a determination. I know this because I see lists about why the US is the greatest and they’re rarely things that are unique to the US.
I do wonder sometimes if in the case of the US it’s not borne of a insecurity, though? (Not meaning to sound insulting, because I dearly love an awful lot of things about America, and Americans - it’s just a theory!). People who know they are the best generally don’t need to keep reminding themselves of it: it’s readily apparent just by their being so.
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Monte_RCMS
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If the USA broke up into a half dozen pieces, would people migrate to the piece that was the best run?
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stinkcat_14
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It depends. People have been migrating to New York City for a couple of decades and nobody can claim it is a model of good governance. People will migrate to where there is opportunity.
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PolarGuy
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CatholicSheila, I think part of the reason americans declare ourselves to be the best is in response to small-minded people - particularly other Americans - who say how bad we are and how they hate us, yet won’t leave because they are too cowardly.
The mere fact that we’re having the discussion of whether the US is the “best” shows how good it is, yet many Americans don’t see it, because they are ignorant. I had a serious discussion with another poster just a few days ago, where he was trashing the US compared to Russia - until I learned that he was american and “too young to leave the USA.” Someone like that can’t really be taken seriously, but one almost has to respond, lest silence equal agreement.
As to other countries thinking they are the best, I’d wage very few people in, say, Bolivia think they are so wonderful.
I think another reason is because Americans are competitive and love a winner, and because we WANT to be the best - and bully for us because we do. There’s nothing laudable about being happy with mediocrity.
The mere fact that we’re having the discussion of whether the US is the “best” shows how good it is, yet many Americans don’t see it, because they are ignorant. I had a serious discussion with another poster just a few days ago, where he was trashing the US compared to Russia - until I learned that he was american and “too young to leave the USA.” Someone like that can’t really be taken seriously, but one almost has to respond, lest silence equal agreement.
As to other countries thinking they are the best, I’d wage very few people in, say, Bolivia think they are so wonderful.
I think another reason is because Americans are competitive and love a winner, and because we WANT to be the best - and bully for us because we do. There’s nothing laudable about being happy with mediocrity.
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mikekle
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Most people are probably in the same boat I am, when it comes to relocating, they would if they could. Moving to another country is an expensive thing, especially when you have lived in your country your entire life, its very risky to up and make such a move once you are an adult.
By the time most of us reach 30 yrs old, we are sort of ‘tied in’ to our lives and the place we are, we go into debt, we start families, jobs, etc. Its easier to just settle and continue on living in the same place.
I think this is why so many people stay where they are at.
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GEddie
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Concerning Americans and the “competitive” reflex.
I think this is the product of unique historical conditions. The USA was the first sovereign nation in the New World, and the first to become a major power. As such, it was forever compared unfavorably to the established nations across the Atlantic.
A lot of aspects that are no longer unique to it were partially unique in the past, but as we have stagnated, many of the other nations have rebuilt and now surpass us in those aspects.
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I think this is the product of unique historical conditions. The USA was the first sovereign nation in the New World, and the first to become a major power. As such, it was forever compared unfavorably to the established nations across the Atlantic.
A lot of aspects that are no longer unique to it were partially unique in the past, but as we have stagnated, many of the other nations have rebuilt and now surpass us in those aspects.
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GEddie
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I don’t use alcohol, so I’ll let you have that one.
In any case, everybody knows God is Canadian.
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PolarGuy
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I have never liked nor really respected the line of argument that says, “I’d leave if I could but I’ve gotten ingrained in life.”
First, Americans are in fact free to go if they want - that’s one reason we’re great! We don’t build walls to keep our people in.
By comparison, most of the rest of the world operates under government that, with all apologies to Chazz palmintieri, can be described as telling its people, “now youse can’t leave.”
Second, consider how many people, all over the world, will, and have, left their homes; families; way of life, etc., usually with just the clothes on their backs, to get to the USA. Considering that, it’s rather, maybe, whiny IMHO, to say “I’d leave if I could but it’d be hard.” Apparently, the US is in fact sufficiently great that many thousands, if not millions, will, in fact, give up all they have just to get here, regardless of how hard it may be to do so. Conversely, if it really was so bad here, people would in fact be fleeing! That they aren’t ought tell us something about how great it is to live in the USA.
First, Americans are in fact free to go if they want - that’s one reason we’re great! We don’t build walls to keep our people in.
By comparison, most of the rest of the world operates under government that, with all apologies to Chazz palmintieri, can be described as telling its people, “now youse can’t leave.”
Second, consider how many people, all over the world, will, and have, left their homes; families; way of life, etc., usually with just the clothes on their backs, to get to the USA. Considering that, it’s rather, maybe, whiny IMHO, to say “I’d leave if I could but it’d be hard.” Apparently, the US is in fact sufficiently great that many thousands, if not millions, will, in fact, give up all they have just to get here, regardless of how hard it may be to do so. Conversely, if it really was so bad here, people would in fact be fleeing! That they aren’t ought tell us something about how great it is to live in the USA.
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Kaninchen
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Tends to assume that somebody would take you!
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PolarGuy
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True enough - but my underlying point is true as well!
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Kaninchen
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I’ve been here since 2006 and thus through two Presidential elections - in each of them there are people who’ve said “if Obama is elected, I’m moving to . . .” completely oblivious to the fact that the countries they’re proposing to move to have immigration rules, rules about employment etc, etc . . . . and that they’d be unlikely to qualify as political refugees.
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total_Catholic
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America is great and it’s all I know but I could definitely relocate to Australia or New Zealand, provided I had the capital to make the move.
My mother passed 6 weeks ago and whenever my father passes, who know where I’ll go. I’m single, will never marry and pretty much have no desire to marry or have children and I have 1 sibling who is single. It would be much easier for me to relocate.
I don’t like the violence in America or the racial strife. Our government keeps the populace dumb by consumerism. Sad.
My mother passed 6 weeks ago and whenever my father passes, who know where I’ll go. I’m single, will never marry and pretty much have no desire to marry or have children and I have 1 sibling who is single. It would be much easier for me to relocate.
I don’t like the violence in America or the racial strife. Our government keeps the populace dumb by consumerism. Sad.
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PolarGuy
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People have been saying, “if X is elected I’m leaving” since the nation was founded.
Yet very very few ever leave!
Why not? Because they know they’ve got it better than anyone else.
Furthermore, that people are griping about an election, when so much of the world has either no elections, or rigged ones, is informative about the USA and how great it is.
Yet very very few ever leave!
Why not? Because they know they’ve got it better than anyone else.
Furthermore, that people are griping about an election, when so much of the world has either no elections, or rigged ones, is informative about the USA and how great it is.
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