But as Ely pointed out, that wasn’t the rationale of the court (“No such rationalization is attempted by the Court in Roe –and understandably not, for whatever else may be involved, it is not a case about governmental snooping”).
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You’re right so far, and in full agreement with John Hart Ely. But then you say:
Huh? Wrong about what? Your complaint seems to be his statement that Roe v. Wade was not a case about government snooping and that was not the rationale by the court… but why? That was sort of his criticism, that they took a right that was specifically asserted on the basis of government snooping and then suddenly applied it to something that didn’t involve it. But the Court didn’t claim that abortion regulation was government snooping, nor did it give the rationale for Griswold… which was part of Ely’s criticism, that the Court lacked the rationale and that the Court “simply announces that the right to privacy “is broad enough to encompass a woman’s decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy.”” and that its notations of the possible detriments that denying someone the ability to get an abortion could cause have “nothing to do with privacy in the Bill of Rights sense or any other the Constitution suggests.”
You’ve now contradicted yourself - saying I’m “right” that Roe extended privacy doctrine from Griswold yet Griswold didn’t give a rationale for Roe. Can’t continue an incoherent dialogue
I was saying (as did John Hart Ely) that the Supreme Court extended the privacy doctrine from Griswold, which it was incorrect to do because the rationale for that right of privacy in Griswold (intolerably intrusive data gathering), didn’t apply to Roe.JSRG:
You’ve now contradicted yourself - saying I’m “right” that Roe extended privacy doctrine from Griswold yet Griswold didn’t give a rationale for Roe. Can’t continue an incoherent dialogue
Church Teachings cover ALL with regard to Sinful Sex. .
Nope. You obviously did not read that bible passage, you tell completely wrong story.
It’s no chicken or egg question.francisca.chapter3:
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Well you are asking a which comes first the chicken or the egg question. Porn is wrong and abortion is wrong. However the greatest evil is abortion because an innocent child loses their life!
Agree to this. So, to those who are addicted to porn, speak against it, even as you are still addicted. Don’t feel like a hypocrite, because you are doing God’s work when you share your struggles and experience
We definitely do. It is legal and entrenched because people in this country want to be as promiscuous as possible without having to face any real consequences for their actions. Also its not like there isnt alot of money involved. its pretty basic human sinful nature, its not that deep.
Yes. We are becoming more polarized, not less. It has now been half a century since Roe v. Wade. With Republican majorities, little movement has been made. With conservative courts, abortion legislation has been over-turned. That is why I said it was entrenched. I should have clarified though that I do not believe for one second political solutions will work, though I am not saying they should be abandoned. I simply believe only moral solutions will work. That is, we live as a child of God. Unless enough of us dedicate ourselves to sanctity, society will continue to become more secular and abortion will continue.
Wrong. I asked a question. Not TELL “completely wrong story”
STATS? Like when most of the world believed the world was flat?