Is there any problem with Sola Scriptura?

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kdganey1991 said:
just curious.
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The first thing you must understand is that Martin Luther never taught that Scripture should be taken alone or privately interpreted. To this day conservative Lutheran Dioceses teach the Bible should be read with the clear understanding that the purpose of the Church and the Priest is to is to help and or interpret difficult verses of Scripture for lay people. No one is allowed to interpret the Bible for themselves and anyone who does and refuses to conform to Church teaching will be excommunicated because of it.

What Luther actually taught (which many denoms, who shall remain nameless, refuse to believe) is that in questions of doctrine the Bible is authoritative over the Church. Obviously Rome disagreed and continues to disagree to this day.

But private interpretation is dangerous and in all likelihood will lead to folly because Christ did not create a Bible He created a Church. Now Lutherans say we know this because of the Bible and Catholics say we know the Bible is authoritative because of the Church, but either way I think both would agree the two are inseparable and should always remain so.

God Bless
 
kdganey1991 said:
just curious.
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Which version of the scriptures do you plan to use? There are a number of versions floating around - each of which have significantly different teaching about who Jesus really was. What basis will you have to pick one or the other?

The question of authority rapidly approaches with “sola scriptura”. The fruits of sola scriptura seem to be not so great for Jesus. And, I think that’s a problem.😦
 
kdganey1991 said:
just curious.
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Which scripture?

How was that scripture defined? (would that scripture not have to define itself to be “sola”?)

King James was late to scripture 1500 years past between the last writing he included and his “version”, so from where did King James get his version? (certainly not from original manuscripts)

etc…
 
pablope said:
well…just look at how many protestant denoms there are…33000 and counting…each with their own brand or idea of Christianity…and their own private interpretation of the Bible.
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Two people with energy, charisma, and conviction, and a different opinion will frequently divide a church. The intention is not necessarily evil, but I do suspect that there is some harvest taken by the evil one by those hurt.

(To be fair - bad actors in the Catholic Church can also enable the same kind of harvest. But, the Church doesn’t teach the bad behavior is ok, but rather sinful.)
 
St. Paul tells us to hold fast to the traditions that have been handed down to us. Scripture and Tradition. That’s what we follow.
 
Sola scriptura produced the Jehovah’s Witnesses as well as the Branch Davidians. What could possibly be wrong with it?
 
It’s a tough call, scripture backs Sola. Yet Sola is not in the bible. What I mean is, Christ and Moses both said the bible being infallibility.
 
TraditonRules said:
It’s a tough call, scripture backs Sola. Yet Sola is not in the bible. What I mean is, Christ and Moses both said the bible being infallibility.
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Yes! But, remember that in Neheniah 8:5-8, as well as Acts 8:26-35, we see that scripture must be interpreted by those in authority - and not self-imposed authority. Peter wrote that those who privately interpret scripture will come to a bad end (2 Peter 1:20, 2 Peter 3:15-16). He specifically names Paul’s scriptures. Hello, Romans’ roaders!
 
po18guy said:
Yes! But, remember that in Neheniah 8:5-8, as well as Acts 8:26-35, we see that scripture must be interpreted by those in authority - and not self-imposed authority. Peter wrote that those who privately interpret scripture will come to a bad end (2 Peter 1:20, 2 Peter 3:15-16). He specifically names Paul’s scriptures. Hello, Romans’ roaders!
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Indeed and thus the problem. Does the bible say what I read or what someone else tells me what it means.
 
TraditonRules said:
Indeed and thus the problem. Does the bible say what I read or what someone else tells me what it means.
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There is only one, and can be only one authoritative Church, as Jesus spoke. The bible, or any written record, is not an authority, but only speaks of authority. Those who claim that the bible is an authority are, in truth, telling you that they (their opinion) are the authority. Jesus founded an authoritative Church to teach, to write and to interpret. By the power of the Holy Spirit, you have been placed in contact with her. Yet, you are to test what you hear, even here - especially here.
 
TraditonRules said:
Indeed and thus the problem. Does the bible say what I read or what someone else tells me what it means.
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The problem is a Reformed person, an Arminian person, a Lutheran and a Catholic all sit down and read Ephesians 2. However they all read it differently because they have been taught a doctrine which builds in presuppositions which color their understanding of the Word. So the Bible doesn’t change, but a Calvinist and an Arminian and a Catholic and a Lutheran etc will read the same words differently because of those presuppositions built upon the doctrines they have been taught.

Therefore it is of utmost importance to find, as best as we are able with the help of the Holy Spirit to find the Church which teaches the Bible accurately. In my opinion that would be either the Roman Catholic Church or Certain Dioceses within the Lutheran Church. Having found this then it is up to the believer to understand that Christ founded His Church and to submit to Her teaching. Thus even though the Bible may seem enigmatic it with the help of the great thinkers of the Church (tradition) plus the teaching of the Priest which helps us to understand the Bible correctly.

God Bless
 
po18guy said:
There is only one, and can be only one authoritative Church, as Jesus spoke. The bible, or any written record, is not an authority, but only speaks of authority. Those who claim that the bible is an authority are, in truth, telling you that they (their opinion) are the authority. Jesus founded an authoritative Church to teach, to write and to interpret. By the power of the Holy Spirit, you have been placed in contact with her. Yet, you are to test what you hear, even here - especially here.
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Maybe so and maybe not. Moses and Christ said the bible is final authority
 
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