Is there superiority of Traditional Latin Mass over 'regular Mass'?

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AlbMagno said:
If we are going to apply that term for the post-VII Mass, then we should at least apply the logical-equivalent term for the TLM.
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No, because “ Vetus Ordo” can refer to many different Masses.

Novus Ordo Missa refers to the CURRENT edition of the Roman Missal, which is currently the Third Edition of the Roman Missal.

Back in in 1963, the Novus Ordo Missa would have been the 1962 missal. In 1966, the Novus Ordo was the 1965 missal. In 1971, the Novus Ordo was the 1979 missal.

Additionally, new Ordos are printed every single year regards to the Liturgy of the Hours & Mass, priests often buy a new Ordo every year.

The Ordo contains the official liturgical calendar for the diocese for that year.

Here is an example of the 2021 Ordo for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia.
https://www.tonini.net/item/06-1003-PHI/Ordo-26-Diocese-of-Philadelphia/

So every year, there is a new Ordo or a Novus Ordo each year. Priests not buy an old Ordo, because it would be out dated.
 
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Don’t you see that the argument works in reverse too? Unless someone know what the latest Missal is, Novus Ordo is also a relative term.

Wouldn’t everything be much simpler if we call them OF and EF?
 
I may start looking for that after I get your link to a thread that contained a post that was deleted. Surely there should be some evidence remaining, eh? Possibly a quote in another post? So gratuitous assertion vs. gratuitous denial, eh?

Or maybe not, since I was talking informally about personal experience, not writing an academic paper or engaging in formal debate.
 
ThomasMT said:
But of course, it doesnt.
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🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Yeah, not rising to that. If a post was deleted and the user banned within 15 minutes, there had to have been more to it than merely an assertion that EF was superior to OF (or vice versa), especially when many other posts with the same sentiment were not flagged and removed. You can take my word for it or not, or you can do a search yourself if you are so inclined, I care not at all. I am not really trying to “prove you wrong”, especially since I get the impression that it would be a never-ending quest as there would be some “disqualifying” item in whatever was presented.
 
ThomasMT said:
Umm, it just happened in this one… deletion and user is suspended. Happened withing 15 min, so there is no trace. Interestingly, my reply was the only one and it also got deleted and without so much as a notification. Hmmm.
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whatistrue said:
If a post was deleted and the user banned within 15 minutes, there had to have been more to it than merely an assertion that EF was superior to OF (or vice versa)
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felsguy said:
see post #56 above
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Is there superiority of Traditional Latin Mass over 'regular Mass'? Liturgy and Sacraments
You are running preciously close to a complaint to the moderators.
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The banned user said there were more “effeminate” men at the OF than the EF, and then quipped “Truth hurts, doesn’t it?” when someone objected.
 
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whatistrue said:
You can take my word for it or not
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Not.

And it was a document by a priest in good standing. But I guess we’ll take your word for it that it must have been bad. Good thing your claims are so credible🤣
 
What was a document by a priest in good standing? Are we even talking about the same thing any more?
 
Well I wouldn’t have even seen that as that particular user is in my Ignore bucket.
 
ThomasMT said:
User (name removed by moderator)
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He was posting around quite a bit. Are you sure he was banned because of his post on the EF instead of doing something like I had shown with a different user who claimed the same thing?
 
I would say nice try, but it really wasn’t. If you have something to say, then say it. I am not one to throw flags over any minor disagreement or issue. If you choose not to say it outright, then kindly don’t mention it at all.
 
Erundil said:
Is attending Novus Ordo (or ‘regular Mass’ I don’t know how to properly use terms associated with this topic) somehow ‘worse’ than participating in the Traditional Latin Mass?
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No. But one could argue that the actions and detail in the Latin mass makes it truer to what the mass is and a greater symbol and representation of the reality of the mass. But the grace from either mass is the same.
 
whatistrue said:
I would say nice try, but it really wasn’t. If you have something to say, then say it. I am not one to throw flags over any minor disagreement or issue. If you choose not to say it outright, then kindly don’t mention it at all.
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Maybe in a PM then so others won’t flag his posts?
 
It is a mysterious but observable fact that the Traditional Mass exerts a power to hold people to faith in the real Presence and the need for confession and repentance.
 
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