ISIS reaches center of Rhamadi

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(CNN) – ISIS captured – and raised its flag over – the provincial government building in the Iraqi city of Ramadi on Friday after an attack that included two suicide car bombings, a security source who just left the city and a civilian still inside the city told CNN on Friday. ISIS started a new offensive in Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, on Thursday.
Thanks for telling us about this, it’s bad news anytime ISIS makes progress anywhere.

Anbar province.
 
foxnews.com/world/index.htmlhttp://

Car bombs were cleared their way to the city and a call has gone out for more Muslims to take up the fight. Palmyra next on list.
Once they take over Rhamadi, they will be in range to take over Baghdad. I doubt they will stop until they control Iraq. Would they not see it as a victory over America?

They believe the Isis leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi , who is calling for all muslims to take up arms is alive.

slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/06/16/abu_bakr_al_baghdadi_how_did_isis_s_leader_go_from_total_unknown_to_the.html
 
I do think the rumors are true that " BagDaddy" survived. Sometimes even our drones miss! Better luck next time.
 
Once they take over Rhamadi, they will be in range to take over Baghdad. I doubt they will stop until they control Iraq. Would they not see it as a victory over America?

They believe the Isis leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi , who is calling for all muslims to take up arms is alive.

slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/06/16/abu_bakr_al_baghdadi_how_did_isis_s_leader_go_from_total_unknown_to_the.html
I do not believe Iran will allow ISIS to take over the whole of Baghdad, let alone the whole of Iraq. Iran has, with a minimum of effort and largely through its proxies, held ISIS at bay in southern iraq and in Syria. If the Iranian armed forces move against ISIS, ISIS will be quickly defeated everywhere but in urban areas in the Sunni lands, where guerilla fighting could go on for a very long time.
 
Rhamadi isn’t yet taken. Note that Rhamadi is a Sunni city and Baghdad is now mostly a Shia city. Baghdad will probably not fall to ISIS. I also don’t think Iran would allow it.
 
I do think the rumors are true that " BagDaddy" survived. Sometimes even our drones miss! Better luck next time.
In another day it could have been the sanheddrin better luck next time drone on!You,re missing the point they,re destroying everymans culture and history.It has to be destroyed because its heretical even before their religion was invented.
 
I do think the rumors are true that " BagDaddy" survived. Sometimes even our drones miss! Better luck next time.
ISIS is supported by the local Sunni population who previously supported the Sunni regime of Saddam Hussein overthrown by the US-led forces.
 
They were asking for help to keep ISIS from reaching Palmyra. ISIS will try and destroy as much history there as they can.
 
ISIS is supported by the local Sunni population who previously supported the Sunni regime of Saddam Hussein overthrown by the US-led forces.
Are you saying “all” local population Sunnis support ISIS? Apparently but I don’t think you can find a source that says that. Hence, only speculation.

Saddam Hussein was convicted of genocide, thank goodness he was run out. Higher ups in the army likely were corrupt as well.
 
Principally, Isis is the product of a genocide that continued unabated as the world stood back and watched. It is the illegitimate child born of pure hate and pure fear – the result of 200,000 murdered Syrians and of millions more displaced and divorced from their hopes and dreams. Isis’s rise is also a reminder of how Bashar al-Assad’s Machiavellian embrace of al-Qaida would come back to haunt him.
The Guardian

See the above as to where ISIS comes from.
 
See the above as to where ISIS comes from.
ISIS grew out of the discontent of Sunnis who felt alienated by the US invasion of Iraq which favored the Shiites. ISIS has been finding support from the local Sunnis in the region.
 
ISIS grew out of the discontent of Sunnis who felt alienated by the US invasion of Iraq which favored the Shiites. ISIS has been finding support from the local Sunnis in the region.
This is wrong on its face. ISIS’ origin was in Syria, where it became the dominant of a number of factions opposing the Assad regime. In that sense, it is more a reaction to Iranian influence than anything else.

In Iraq, it met with virtually no resistance when it emerged out of Syria, because the Shiites in the Iraqi army weren’t going to defend Sunni and the Sunni weren’t well equipped or trained or led by the Shiite officers under whose command they had been placed. Again, the hand of Iran.

There are Sunni, perhaps the majority, in the Sunni areas who would fight ISIS if they had sufficient aid in doing so. But nobody will help them, so ISIS rules there as well as in a good part of Syria.

Obama didn’t want to keep peace in the region, so now it’s the war zone between Iran and Sunni radicals that virtually everybody with any sense said it would be. Quite possibly, the Sunni states like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Jordan and Egypt will push Iran back and imaginably tame ISIS. But it’s also possible Iran will never be ousted from Iraq or Syria or Lebanon.
 
ISIS grew out of the discontent of Sunnis who felt alienated by the US invasion of Iraq which favored the Shiites. ISIS has been finding support from the local Sunnis in the region.
Noted, I asked for back up and you gave none. Just speculation on your behalf.
 
The Islamic State was officially founded by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on June 28, 2014. He was born in Iraq. The Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), also known as Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), was the Iraqi division of al-Qaeda. Al-Baghdadi was announced as leader of the ISI on 16 May 2010, following the death of his predecessor Abu Omar al-Baghdadi. NOTE: The Islamic State recognizes no countries in the region nor national boarders.

Abu Omar al-Qurashi al-Baghdadi, (died 18 April 2010) was presented as the leader of the Mujahideen Shura Council (also translated as “Council of Freedom Fighters”, “Consultative Council of Mujahedeen”, and “Council of Holy Warriors”), an umbrella organization composed of eight groups that oppose the United States’ military presence in Iraq, and its successor organisation, the Islamic State of Iraq. Very little is known about al-Baghdadi. It is stated that he may have served with the former Iraqi army as an officer during the Ba’athist regime of Saddam Hussein…he also may be fictional [this group was heavily supported by Ba’athists in Iraq]

Baghdadi’s predicessor was Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. He was al-Qaeda and trained in Afganistan prior to going to Iraq. He formed al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in the 1990s, and led it until his death in June 2006. Following al-Zarqawi’s pledge of allegiance to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda network on October 17, 2004, the group became known as al-Qaeda in Iraq (official name Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn) He was born in Jordan. [this group was heavily supported by Ba’athists in Iraq]

Two good books came out this year if you are interested in the history of ISIS
ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror
ISIS: The State of Terror
 
A little more on the history. Even before the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, Zarqawi trained what he called soldiers of the Levant who were being trained for future terrorist operations in Israel/Palestine, Jordan and other Arab countries. These are the fighters he brought to Iraq after the US occupation who allied themselves with the Ba’athists to fight the US army and Shiite forces. These are the guys who bombed the most holy mosques in Shiite Iraq.
 
Yes, Al Qaeda existed before the Iraq war but Syria was the linchpin. Assad was friendly with terrorists at first and then, they turned on each other.
Syria and Iran decided to do everything they could to bog down the Americans in Iraq to discourage Washington from launching any new wars in the Middle East.
Syria unleashed Islamic militants into Iraq. The repressive regime in Damascus had many extremists in its prisons. Saddam did the same thing, emptying his jails before the Americans invaded. I remember seeing Islamic radicals walking around Baghdad in the weeks before the American war.
By 2004, the Islamic militants were doing what was expected of them. They were fighting American troops. They were blowing themselves up at checkpoints. They were creating what in the early days U.S. troops called the “insurgency.” Back then, most of the Islamic militants, especially foreign fighters, flowing into Iraq came though Syria. The border was open to them.
nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/washington-risks-falling-syrias-isis-strategy-again-n202841
 
Noted, I asked for back up and you gave none. Just speculation on your behalf.
The group Jama’at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad under the Jordanian Salafi (Sunni Muslim) Abu Musab al-Zarqawi began suicide attacks on Shiite mosques following the US led invasion of Iraq. The group changed its name to Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (تنظيم قاعدة الجهاد في بلاد الرافدين, and continued its attacks on Shiite civilians and other Shiite targets and American convoys. Ayman al-Zawahiri wrote a letter to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi giving his support to establishing an Islamic caliphate. In 2006, a US airstrike killed al-Zarqawi, but he was succeeded by Abu Ayyub al-Masri who continued to lead the group known that time as Al-Qaeda of Iraq.
“A RADICAL plan by Al-Qaeda to take over the Sunni heartland of Iraq and turn it into a militant Islamic state once American troops have withdrawn is causing alarm among US intelligence officials.

According to an analysis compiled by US intelligence agencies, the Islamic State has ambitions to create a terrorist enclave in the Iraqi provinces of Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Salah al-Din, Nineveh and parts of Babil.”
See: web.archive.org/web/20110524071632/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1782088.ece
 
Not true according to US intelligence officials who say it began in Iraq.
Well, one could also say it began in Egypt; the birthplace of the Muslim Brotherhood which engendered AQ, which engendered ISIS. But the fact is ISIS as an organization first gained significant military power in Syria and moved from there to Iraq.
 
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