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UtSuShImI
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How can we even understand you if we even dont know about the Quran… Any verse in Koran that says any LOVE? And why kill… is your God a merciless notorious killer? JIHAD is a very big lie…
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Muslim_Woman
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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **
Salaam/ Peace
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why not read or listen to the Quran ?
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chrisse
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I haven’t come across a Christian, Catholic or not, who actually was a Christian in practice. Probably are a few, but most of them, no.what is most terrifying to me is that many former Christians including Catholics even some who are well-rounded and aware of Christian teaching embrace Islam and then go around telling everybody how horrible Christianity is with some even implying that we are going to hell and that our prayers to Jesus are worthless etc. etc. people who don’t know Christ or are misinformed like I was can very easily be led to believe that Islam is the one true religion I know I almost fell for it myself when I did not know Christ I mean I was a stone’s throw from becoming Muslim. And I don’t think Christians are doing enough to counter the many outreach programs that Muslims have and they use them to bash Christianity the best example of this is the deen show. For example check out their latest show that shows a guy rejecting Christianity for Islam. It terrifies me to think that could’ve been me after learning what I know now.
youtube.com/watch?v=wV1m2Q_9K8I
thank you Jesus for putting people in my life who prevented me from going down that road amen!
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For example, there is a guy claiming to be an ex-Catholic priest, lol. However, he produces no proof. mmmmm, funny about that. But he sounds great to the muslims.
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Aydan
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Hostile media against Islam yeah there’s some but have you noticed there is just as much bias and propaganda as well as misinformation about Catholicism? The church is always distorted in movies and the media. Why do I think people convert to Islam for the same reason I almost did and that is misinformation. There is an equal amount of propaganda on Muslim web sites that grossly distorts the Bible and Christianity “The Deen Show” is a prime example because they have shows done by former Christians that grossly distort Christianity in the Bible and imply that Christians are going to hell so don’t tell to me about propaganda against Islam because Muslim web sites have plenty of propaganda against Christianity and the Bible as well.
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Muslim_Woman
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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **
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ummm nuh . In US movies , normally Muslims are portrayed as criminals . Even in a funny movie , negative Muslims characters are there to give people a bad impression on Islam .
Is it on Peace TV channel ? I don’t think this Islamic chaneel is available everywhere like other non-Islamic channels.
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Aydan
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no it’s not even a channel it’s a web site and it should be available everywhere.
thedeenshow.com/objective.php
It’s also on Youtube
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Muslim_Woman
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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **
Salaam/ Peace
anyway , why u think so many learned Christians i.e. Bishops/ pastors/ priests became Muslims ? They knew about their religion very well , they studied Islam & then refused to worship Jesus (p) as God . I guess , u don’t think Muslims gave them money ?
btw who is ST AHMED ?
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have u noticed that you are advertising an Islamic site ?
anyway , why u think so many learned Christians i.e. Bishops/ pastors/ priests became Muslims ? They knew about their religion very well , they studied Islam & then refused to worship Jesus (p) as God . I guess , u don’t think Muslims gave them money ?
btw who is ST AHMED ?
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Aydan
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He was a former Muslim who converted to Christianity and as a result he was beheaded under the authority of the Ottoman Empire so he became a saint in the Orthodox Church. Look him up** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **
Salaam/ Peace
have u noticed that you are advertising an Islamic site ?
I’m not advertising anything thank you you asked me what I was talking about so I answered your question. But that web site does have a lot of distortions about the Bible and Christianity and I do want to make Christians aware of that. So yeah I’m drawing attention to this issue of distortion
anyway , why u think so many learned Christians i.e. Bishops/ pastors/ priests became Muslims ? They knew about their religion very well , they studied Islam & then refused to worship Jesus (p) as God . I guess , u don’t think Muslims gave them money ?
I. don’t pay attention to Catholics who reject the church it saddens me but I find they are often either misinformed or are purposely distorting our faith in order to mislead people. There are some men who are former Muslims who have become priests too.
btw who is ST AHMED ?
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Muslim_Woman
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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **
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he did not change his name ? Ahmed is another name of the last Prophet (pbuh) , meaning the Chosen one.
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Aydan
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yes he did change his name however because he was executed so soon after his conversion his Christian name has been lost therefore they were forced to use his Arabic name. I do believe he was chosen by God to set an example for Christians which is why he is an Orthodox saint.
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Aydan
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yeah and Peter was perfect too right?I don’t care he is still an inspiration to me because he reminds me that I’m a sinner too therefore he is a role model as one of my Turkish saints and there aren’t a lot of Turkish saints in the Catholic Church that I’m aware of so I chose him. So far I know of only one Turkish Saint in the entire Catholic Church but because my second language is Turkish I wanted some Turkish saints.
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Black_Dog
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What a complete load of rubbish!!! Have you ever been to Europe? Who are these “respected journalists”. I can just imagine who the “public-interest organisations” are.
This thread is nothing more than a revolting incitement to hatred - a feeding frenzy of paranoid delusion. Some of you should travel a bit more and you may just find that the world is not in fact the awful place you seem to need it to be!
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Aydan
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sorry I misunderstood what you were trying to say because I have had people try to put him down before. They tried to say that he is not a good example for a saint.
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chrisse
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If you read about this Saint, you will see he didn’t have time to change his name before they (the justice loving muslims) beheaded him. Whether he would have is, therefore, a mute (or dead) point.
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Black_Dog
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In the interests of a fair and balanced debate perhaps mention should be made of the atrocities carried out by Christians against Muslims.
The “Holy” Crusades spring to mind. Christian eye-witness accounts describe wholesale slaughter of entire Muslim cities - men, women and children. The “Christian” knights were particularly adept at roasting Muslim children over a spit. All in the name of Jesus apparently.
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chrisse
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In the interests of a fair and balanced debate perhaps some mention should be made about the 300 years of war, genocide, ethnic cleansing, enslavement of Christians before the first Crusade.
In the interests of a fair and balanced debate perhaps some mention should be made of the continual razzias into Christendom and slaughter, enslavement etc. of Christians for hundreds of years before and after the first Crusade.
In the interests of a fair and balanced debate perhaps we can then start on the 1400 year islamic slave trade where 90% of those enslaved died on route, where whole communities were wiped out to get the “best” slaves, where men were castrated so they could mind the sex slaves held in islamic cities.
Then, in the interests of a fair and balanced debate, we could move on to India where millions were slaughtered and enslaved again by muslims.
In the interests of a fair and balanced debate, I think you are referring to one city…the “rivers of blood”. Unfortunate, but not unusual in that time in battle, and well, it was a defensive action.
In fact, it’s well over time for a fair and balanced debate to be had about the vile islamic imperialism launched by mohammet 1400 years ago and still ongoing.
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chrisse
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In the interests of a fair and balanced debate perhaps some mention should be made about the 300 years of war, genocide, ethnic cleansing, enslavement of Christians before the first Crusade.
In the interests of a fair and balanced debate perhaps some mention should be made of the continual razzias into Christendom and slaughter, enslavement etc. of Christians for hundreds of years before and after the first Crusade.
In the interests of a fair and balanced debate perhaps we can then start on the 1400 year islamic slave trade where 90% of those enslaved died on route, where whole communities were wiped out to get the “best” slaves, where men were castrated so they could mind the sex slaves held in islamic cities.
Then, in the interests of a fair and balanced debate, we could move on to India where millions were slaughtered and enslaved again by muslims.
In the interests of a fair and balanced debate, I think you are referring to one city…the “rivers of blood”. Unfortunate, but not unusual in that time in battle, and well, it was a defensive action.
In fact, it’s well over time for a fair and balanced debate to be had about the vile islamic imperialism launched by mohammet 1400 years ago and still ongoing.
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Black_Dog
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So you believe spit roasting of children to be an “unfortunate” incident!!!
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chrisse
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No, I believe you are not well informed.
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Aydan
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Okay you want to bring up the Crusades do you? Perhaps you should mention that it was a Muslim ruler that started the Crusades by denying Christians access to Jerusalem and burning down one of our most holy sites in Jerusalem. The difference between Christians and Muslims is that atrocities were not sanctioned by our church if in fact they did happen. Contrast that, with Mohammed who wiped out entire towns by ordering that all men, women, children be killed in the name of his religion.
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