Islam is BAD!!!

[d_floyd77]

So true faith leads to greater intellect and wisdom.

Is that what you seek? Or do you just love God because, well, He’s God?

True faith leads to submission and a realization that true wisdom only lies with God.

 

[d_floyd77]

If there is no intellectual endeavour invovled why would priests need to go to seminary?

I don’t know. Ask St. Francis why he had no interest in going to seminary.

 

[d_floyd77]

“Fullness of the truth”? C’mon, d_floyed77; Either Christians are fools, or the Qur’an is lying.

I’ll stick my neck on the chopping block and say that Qur’an 4:157 is an outright lie. Do you dare to offer your opinion on this verse supposedly from Allah?

As far as I know, as a Catholic, they didn’t kill Christ did they? I mean, He’s not “dead” is He? He obviously appeared so to them.

 

[KenEOTE]

I don’t know. Ask St. Francis why he had no interest in going to seminary.

I will one day. But why did he write things for others to read.

I love God with all my heart, soul, and mind. Therefore I study his word daily to get to know him better. I read his word and enjoy it. I see the love he has for everyone, and how many reject him.

I believe faith is more then just a feeling or blind following. Faith is action. To learn the proper actions one needs to spend time in prayer and studying the word he gave us. It is a compass when we step out in faith we can see if it contradicts what he would want. If you do not know His word you can go in the wrong direction easily.

 

[KenEOTE]

As far as I know, as a Catholic, they didn’t kill Christ did they? I mean, He’s not “dead” is He? He obviously appeared so to them.

I believe his point is that they deny the crucifixion which is essential to the Christian Faith. They also deny he is the son of God, which is essential to the Christian Faith. Yes they are pious and pray daily more of us should be that way. But who are they praying too? Would a true prophet of the true God write out right lies about himself?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace;

“Fullness of the truth”? C’mon, d_floyed77; Either Christians are fools, or the Qur’an is lying.

I’ll stick my neck on the chopping block and say that Qur’an 4:157 is an outright lie. Do you dare to offer your opinion on this verse supposedly from Allah?

Muslims beleive Jesus (p) did not die & will come back before the last day …what’s so wrong with this belief ? How do u know Christans are right & Muslims are wrong ?

The Women

And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah;

and** they did not kill him nor did they crucify him,** but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it;

they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

[4.157]

 

[d_floyd77]

I will one day. But why did he write things for others to read.

I love God with all my heart, soul, and mind. Therefore I study his word daily to get to know him better. I read his word and enjoy it. I see the love he has for everyone, and how many reject him.

I believe faith is more then just a feeling or blind following. Faith is action. To learn the proper actions one needs to spend time in prayer and studying the word he gave us. It is a compass when we step out in faith we can see if it contradicts what he would want. If you do not know His word you can go in the wrong direction easily.

Good for you. So why don’t you leave others who love God alone and let the Holy Spirit convert them. I’ll even one up that. Why don’t you learn from them and actually try to develop a closer relationship to your God by imitating what they actually do and what most Catholics only profess to do.

 

[KenEOTE]

Good for you. So why don’t you leave others who love God alone and let the Holy Spirit convert them. I’ll even one up that. Why don’t you learn from them and actually try to develop a closer relationship to your God by imitating what they actually do and what most Catholics only profess to do.

I can not convert anyone. But when you love someone and you care for them wouldn’t you want to share them with others? When I met my wife I took her around to everyone I knew and introduced her. She was and is the most fascinating woman I have ever known. I wanted everyone to know her. I knew they would be better for it. I love Christ even more then my wife, he has done wonderful things for me. I want the whole world to know him. What is wrong with that? Should we be ashamed of Christ and not speak of him to others?

 

[d_floyd77]

I can not convert anyone. But when you love someone and you care for them wouldn’t you want to share them with others? When I met my wife I took her around to everyone I knew and introduced her. She was and is the most fascinating woman I have ever known. I wanted everyone to know her. I knew they would be better for it. I love Christ even more then my wife, he has done wonderful things for me. I want the whole world to know him. What is wrong with that? Should we be ashamed of Christ and not speak of him to others?

Muslims know Christ.

Muslims know how to do what Christ says to do.

Most Catholics I know don’t.

That, is the essence of everything.

 

[KenEOTE]

Salaam/peace;

Muslims beleive Jesus (p) did not die & will come back before the last day …what’s so wrong with this belief ? How do u know Christans are right & Muslims are wrong ?

The Women

And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah;

and** they did not kill him nor did they crucify him,** but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it;

they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

[4.157]

What is wrong with it is that it goes against the very reason Christ came. He came to die for our sins. He died and was ressurected and now reigns in heaven.

The Qu’ran was written 500 years after the Gospels. The Gospels were written by eyewitnesses. Mohammad was not there. I would rather trust those who were there who were willing to die rather then deny the death and ressurection of Christ then a man willing to Kill to spread his message.

 

[d_floyd77]

But who are they praying too? Would a true prophet of the true God write out right lies about himself?

Would a false prophet of the true God teach his followers to actually follow God the way the prophets of Israel and Christ Himself actually taught?

 

[d_floyd77]

I would rather trust those who were there who were willing to die rather then deny the death and ressurection of Christ then a man willing to Kill to spread his message.

You don’t have to deny that by simply acknowledging, (as the Church does), that the Holy Spirit does move in the hearts of Muslims.

 

[medallionsnijme]

Salaam/peace;
lol…what a funny joke
Tell this to Iraqi & Afghan people.

you laugh and yet you say peace.

 

[KenEOTE]

Muslims know Christ.

Muslims know how to do what Christ says to do.

Most Catholics I know don’t.

That, is the essence of everything.

I disagree with you here most Muslims know about Isa.

They know about the Christ… they do not know him. If they knew him they would not be Muslims.

I know atheists who do the things Christ said to do. You can do what someone says to do with out knowing that person. There is a difference.

I have met many many former Muslims who can tell you that what they know about Christ is not what they came to know once they got to know Christ. I actually hung out with one of my friends last week. He was formerly a member of the PLO and converted. His story to me is amazing.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace;

**It is true that Muslims are intolerant about statues. **.

Muslims ruled India for …I forgot the exact years…say more than 200 years. How there are so many temples & statues in India ? May be , some temples were looted because Hindus collected gold & other jewellaries inside the temple / under the statues. But in general , Muslims are not even allowed to utter bad words about other gods.

 

[KenEOTE]

Would a false prophet of the true God teach his followers to actually follow God the way the prophets of Israel and Christ Himself actually taught?

Yes a false prophet would. A false prophet would interlace truth with lies. Do you believe that Mohammad was a true prophet? The Devil himself comes as an angel of light. He used half truths in the Garden of eden. He has always done that.

You tell some truth and add a lie its so close its hard to tell. He taught many of the lessons of Christ but denied who Christ is. Therefore he is a false prophet.

 

[planten]

“Fullness of the truth”? C’mon, d_floyed77; Either Christians are fools, or the Qur’an is lying.

I’ll stick my neck on the chopping block and say that Qur’an 4:157 is an outright lie. Do you dare to offer your opinion on this verse supposedly from Allah?

**C Z, the verse 4:157 is perfect answer to what happened to Jesus who was put on the cross just for a few hours on Friday. Even Pilate had doubt about Jesus death. Pilate said 'Has he died so quickly?"

Jesus had not really died. He had suffered much and fainted. He appeared to be dead. He was as good as dead. The Quran is giving a perfect account of incident of crucifixion. Jesus was seen walking about after three days on his own legs with his own wounds on his own old body. The christians use many doubtful words.Then attach doubtful meaning to those words. They say “he had risen” What does it really mean?

Does it mean that Jesus had died and then became alive? How Come? If we say about some one that he has risen, would it mean that he died and then came back to life? Never like that.

It was a miracle from God for the sake of Jesus that the enemies wanted to kill Jesus on the cross. But God saved him from that cursed death on the cross which was planned by his enemies. The prayer of Jesus in the garden before arrest is very clear. he prayed to his God and told all his disciples to pray for him that he should not have to suffer the ignonimous death on the cross. But all the time his friends were found sleeping.

But God was not sleeping. It is written in the bible NT that an angel came to Jesus to strenthen him. How the angel will strenghthen him? By telling him that do not worry. You will die on the cross but you will become alive after 3 days. Not at all. That is not any strengthening. The matter is mentioned in the Quran (3:55, 3:56) and Allah promised Jesus that he will die a normal natural death (on the bed, i.e. will not die on the cross) and he will be raised near to God (after a natural death)… All is there in the Quran and it is true about Jesus.

The church is anxious to kill Jesus on the cross as per the wishes (plans) of the enemies of Jesus. That cannot be right. Please understand that Quran is giving a good report about Jesus and his mother. The report is better than what the church is teaching to the world.

Let the christians teach what they like. And let the Muslims describe what they have in the Quran and please do not say that Quran is a lie. Otherwise we Muslims will prove that your reports are all wrong.**

 

[KenEOTE]

**C Z, the verse 4:157 is perfect answer to what happened to Jesus who was put on the cross just for a few hours on Friday. Even Pilate had doubt about Jesus death. Pilate said 'Has he died so quickly?"

Jesus ha dnot deally died. He had suffered much and fainted. He appeared to be dead. He was as good as dead. The Quran is giving a perfect account of crucifixion. Jesus was seen walking about after three days on his own legs with his own wounds onhis own old body. The christians use many doubtful words.Then attach doubtful meaning to thos ewords. They say “he had risen” What does it really means?

Does it mean that Jesus had died and then became alive? How Come? If we say about some one that he has risen, would it mean that he died and then came back to life? Never like that.

It was a miracle from God for the sake of Jesus that the enemied wante dto kill Jesus on the cross. But God saved him from that cursed death on the cross which was planned by his enemies. The prayer os Jesus in the garden is very clear. he prayed to his God and told all his disciples to pray for him thathe should not have to suffer the ignomious death on the cross. But all the time his friends were found sleeping.

But God was not sleeping. It is written in the bible NT that an angel came to Jesus to strenthen him. How the angel will strenghthen him? By telling him that do not worry. You will die on the cross but you will becoem alive after 3 days. Not at all. That is not any strengthening. The matter is mentioned in the Quran (3:55, 3:56) and Allah promised Jesus that he will die a normal natural death (on the bed, i.e. will not die on the cross) and he will be raised near to God (after a natural death)… All is there in the Quran and it is true about Jesus.

The church is anxious to kill Jesus on the cross as per the wishes (plans) of the enemies of Jesus. That cannot be right. Please understand that Quranis giving a good report about Jesus and his mother. The report is better than what the church is teaching to the world.

Let the christians teach what they liek. And let the Muslims describe what they have in the Quran and please do not say that Quran is a lie. Otherwie we Muslims will prove that your reports are all lies.**

Thank you Planten you have proven my point.

 

[Angelos]

**That was not a reply to the question which was asked about the graven images or statues. Whether the church teaches bowing to images and statues? The answer was required Yes or NO.

But the reply is not proper. So the answer ha sbeen purposely avoided**.

Why should I restrict myself to hamba’s two options whilst I know that the starting point of his question is rotten?

 

[d_floyd77]

Yes a false prophet would. A false prophet would interlace truth with lies. Do you believe that Mohammad was a true prophet? The Devil himself comes as an angel of light. He used half truths in the Garden of eden. He has always done that.

You tell some truth and add a lie its so close its hard to tell. He taught many of the lessons of Christ but denied who Christ is. Therefore he is a false prophet.

Hmm, and all that false prophet did was teach people to Love and submit to God. Yet the curveball you claim he taught will damn their souls to Hell?

I have a hard time believing that.