Islam is BAD!!!

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

It was phlegm.

:tsktsk:

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

… That is why we see so much misbehaving people, drinking and gambling and sunk deep in free sex in western countries…

And don’t forget those damned christians suicide bombers.

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

… The christians also face a direction inside the church.They face their pictures and idols in the church. Why do they not face their bck to those images during the prayer. It is not sensible to do that…

Actually, we are showing respect by facing the altar where the sacrifice of Jesus will be re-presented in the Eucharist.

 

[dolphinlove]

Well, here is some more from the ‘religion of peace’.

jihadwatch.org/archives/022314.php

The muslim population must have went over some percentage so the escalation of their violence has risen. (see my signature website)

And it is always the same - they are unable to live with others so they demand their own land; they have been the ones bombing, kidnapping, and killing infidels while the violence directed at them has only been to capture the perpetrators and they have indeed claimed victimhood; and they demand others tolerate them while they do not do the same to others.

Yep, more of the same stuff only a different day.

Are you really so surprised.

 

[KenEOTE]

:tsktsk:

What is that for? I can’t make a joke?

 

[morning_star777]

**I am honestly telling you that christianity is not as it should be. It is not the relgion that Jesus preached.**dear planten for God’s sake,without proof please stop repeating this same claim.

 

[dolphinlove]

dear planten for God’s sake,without proof please stop repeating this same claim.

morning star, we all know poor planten makes outragous claims on something he knows NOTHING about.
Poor planten has to convince himself his fantasy religion is true.
Maybe one day he might actually see the guff he comes up with is false and sees the truth.
Lets pray for poor planten.

 

[kalnaa]

**I am honestly telling you that christianity is not as it should be. It is not the relgion that Jesus preached. But anyhow, even if it was all wrong, the efforts of the christian preachers, helped by the political superiority of the western countries made good advances into the world religious market.

People are not so serious about religion and they found it easy to follow christianity and enjoy the worldly life. The extra ordinary effort of the church preachers with a backing and system made it possible to convert the poor people to christianity.

I have no grudge. They were rewarded for the great effort. Not for the great truth. The present day progress of mankind in many scientific fields is not due to church teachings. It has become possible because the church left the scientific field to the scientists and stopped fiddling with the science matters.

In fact, the church left most of the legislative matters and did not interfere in the worldly matters of the people. That is why we see so much misbehaving people, drinking and gambling and sunk deep in free sex in western countries.

I admit the good work of the padres.**

You’re still misled and you have misunderstood. One point, Christianity is free chocie not enforced. Peole who drink gamble and engegae in free sex have not understood the basic of Chiristinaity, just like you haven’t. Do you think that western countries citizens are Christians( I mean the majority) NO! They just have a certificate to name them as Chirstinaity. I don’t know how truth it is but I have heard that American schools refused to teach the Bibile in school. Thus see what is happening to them as a nation. My statement remains the same, you have no basis to say that Christianity is false religion,in fact its the only true religionin the world. All you have to do is wait, wait till the end. Then the truth will be out.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace;

i find it interesting that muslims are sneaky in their art by making “pictures” in arabic calligraphy, they make pictures in geometric patterns, and these pictures are littered all over your mosques.

no picture of any human being or living animals/birds are there inside any mosques. The calligraphy is based on Quranic verses like God is one , God has so son , God has no partner ,there is no god but God and Muhammed (p) is the seal of the Prophets of God etc.

 

[kalnaa]

I would hope he knows this, but his post certainly implied otherwise so I was bringing him/her as well as all other readers back to the essential meaning and root of this word “peace.”

Now, that’s why you must understand the Arabic/Hebrew meaning of the word salaam/shalom. Go ask a Jewish person if you don’t know. Most English-speakers think of something else when they talk about “peace,” than what Jews and Muslims mean.

I don’t think that these killings are justified, first of all, and I hate war as much as anyone else. What I was trying to illustrate was that it isn’t fair for people to try to call Muhammad a murderer or worse, because he was at war. He wasn’t just slaughtering people who came up to him that he disliked, although that is what many here would like to imagine. Jesus never went to war. He was never in the position of leadership that Muhammad had, and Jesus was never responsible for the safety and security of his “flock.” He did not have to fight to protect them. So it’s a fully unfair comparison, in my opinion, which has been brought here on this forum to try to smear Muhammad.

He was at war. When people are at war, people get killed.

Jesus spoke ARAMAIC not Arabic. Its somewhat similar to Hebrew.

 

[dzheremi]

Jesus spoke ARAMAIC not Arabic. Its somewhat similar to Hebrew.

So is Arabic, though. I don’t recall Sister Amy ever claiming that Jesus spoke Arabic, anyway (and I’m pretty sure that reply was to something I had written…)

 

[kalnaa]

that might be true if you haven’t read the koran or knew what mohammed did or said.

Why are most Muslims so ruthless and unforgiving? Isn’t it becuase their teacher was such? Islam is enforced on them, fear is inflicted. Otheriwse why would Muhamed order to kill the people who leave the faith!

 

[kalnaa]

**Please indicate where you need any clarification, about the un-married father or about his belief that some educated people can be ignorants.

In the meantime, you can educate me about how a person who is un-married can be a father?**

Somebody is running out of ideas

 

[kalnaa]

So is Arabic, though. I don’t recall Sister Amy ever claiming that Jesus spoke Arabic, anyway (and I’m pretty sure that reply was to something I had written…)

Aramaic and Arabic is different although there are similarities becasue of the geographical loation.

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

… there is no god but God and Muhammed (p) is the seal of the Prophets of God etc.

I think you’ll find the correct wording of that tenet is “There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger.”

I think the author of this tenet knew that Muhammad was a messenger and not a prophet because he left us with no prophecy.

 

[kalnaa]

That is good. Agreed. When you attack Islam then please see that same weakness is not found in your faith too. Thanks.

Muslims are afraid of Jews. That’s why they attack. Why do Arabic countries refuse to issue visa to thier countries if the passport has a visa issued to Israel? Israel has to issue visa seperately in a paper becuase of this.

 

[planten]

You’re still misled and you have misunderstood.** One point, Christianity is free chocie not enforced. **Peole who drink gamble and engegae in free sex have not understood the basic of Chiristinaity, just like you haven’t. Do you think that western countries citizens are Christians( I mean the majority) NO! They just have a certificate to name them as Chirstinaity. I don’t know how truth it is but I have heard that American schools refused to teach the Bibile in school. Thus see what is happening to them as a nation. My statement remains the same, you have no basis to say that Christianity is false religion,in fact its the only true religionin the world. All you have to do is wait, wait till the end. Then the truth will be out.

Thanks for your post. I have colored parts red. Please show any verse from your religious book that there is no compulsion in religion. That it is not enforced. Do not talk from yourself. That will have no value.

The other thing, if we exclude the merry people from the christ’s people then there will be very few christians in the world. But we are told that there are about 2 Billion christians. So that is not true.

I have great respect for the preachers, any peaceful preacher. He may be a Muslim or Christian or Hindu, any faith at all. The christians put up a lot of effort in spreading christian teachings in Afriqa long ago. But it appears that now their progress has stopped in Afriqa and India.

In India, the christians are facing oppostion / persecutuon from the Hindus. That is not good. Even in Pakistan, there is too much hostility against the churches but they are comfortable.

 

[R_not]

Salaam/peace;

no picture of any human being or living animals/birds are there inside any mosques. The calligraphy is based on Quranic verses like God is one , God has so son , God has no partner ,there is no god but God and Muhammed (p) is the seal of the Prophets of God etc.

So what? No one really cares except for you guys about what is in your mosques.

 

[R_not]

Thanks for your post. I have colored parts red. Please show any verse from your religious book that there is no compulsion in religion. That it is not enforced. Do not talk from yourself. That will have no value.

The other thing, if we exclude the merry people from the christ’s people then there will be very few christians in the world. But we are told that there are about 2 Billion christians. So that is not true.

I have great respect for the preachers, any peaceful preacher. He may be a Muslim or Christian or Hindu, any faith at all. The christians put up a lot of effort in spreading christian teachings in Afriqa long ago. But it appears that now their progress has stopped in Afriqa and India.

In India, the christians are facing oppostion / persecutuon from the Hindus. That is not good. Even in Pakistan, there is too much hostility against the churches but they are comfortable.

Since this is a thread about islam - why don’t you show us the surahs where islam is ok with forced conversions since they are doing it in India, Africa, Southeast Asia, etc.

the preacher’s progress has stopped because the muslims are slaughtering them. Everywhere the preachers are facing persecution and opposition from muslims.

Prove there isn’t that many Christians. there are hundreds of thousands in communist countries that practice silently, and also in muslim countries.

You make assertions then tell us to prove your assertions - you prove them.

 

[planten]

Why are most Muslims so ruthless and unforgiving? Isn’t it becuase their teacher was such? Islam is enforced on them, fear is inflicted. Otheriwse why would Muhamed order to kill the people who leave the faith!

Please understand that Muhammad never ordered to kill the apostates. But the present day muslim religious leaders (Mullas) think that he did order the killing of every apostate. That is wrong and cannot be proved. But the Mullas have some Hadith which says “If any one changes his religion, kill him.” That is absolutely wrong.

Unless the person becomes apostate and kills some one, or during the war he tries to change a platform,he is liable to be killed. Please remember that it is not only this bad belief of the muslims that apostate should be killed but there are many other wrong ideas.

They may number into 20 such fallacies that muslim leaders are carrying now. So christians ar justified to complain about this killing of the apostates. The muslims should disown this bad belief because killing / stoning is a capital punishment and it is not mentioned in the Quran at all to kill any apostate. Punishment of death cannot be given on the authority of a Hadith only.

Happy reading !!!