Islam & Muslim bashing thread?

[Angelos]

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Book of Revelation 2 (New American Bible):
20 Yet I [Jesus] hold this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, who teaches and misleads my servants to play the harlot and to eat food sacrificed to idols.

21 I have given her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her harlotry.

22 So I [Jesus] will cast her on a sickbed and plunge those who commit adultery with her into intense suffering unless they repent of her works. **

23 I [Jesus] will also put her children to death. Thus shall all the churches come to know that I am the searcher of hearts and minds and that I will give each of you what your works deserve.

vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__P12L.HTM#-523

Matthew 23: (New American Bible):

37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how many times I yearned to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her young under her wings, but you were unwilling!

38 Behold, your house will be abandoned, desolate.

How do you expalin this?​

Jesus is the only JUDGE of the mankind, and He will severely punish the evildoers when He descends on the day of Judgment:

John 5:25-29
Amen, amen, I say unto you, that the hour cometh, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given to the Son also to have life in himself. And he hath given him power to do judgment, because he is the Son of man. Wonder not at this: for the hour cometh wherein all that are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God. And they that have done good things shall come forth unto the resurrection of life: but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment.

 

[Analyzer]

Jesus is the only JUDGE of the mankind, and He will severely punish the evildoers when He descends on the day of Judgment:

**Jesus will judge you (Jews and those Christians who in their minds are following him), not the Muslims.

Because Jesus was a Muslim. He cannot judge Muslims because Muslims are already with Jesus Christ (pbuh).

Jesus will throw you out by saying: “Depart from me…I never knew you” why? Because you call him Lord and then instead of following him, are following his enemy Saul/Paul.

Second, Jesus’ metaphorical Father (God Almighty) is greater than him, and that Father is Father of all every Tom, D i c k and Harry including Hitler, Mussoulini, Bloody Mary, Crusaders ecc…

Third, Jesus is not God to judge the whole mankind, nor he claimed to be God, as, he was a** man, a son of man repeatedly mentioned even in your proven altered texts of the Holy Bibles.

Jesus ( being a Jew) may be a god or a son of the Most High (Biblically) just like how all Jews are gods and sons of the Most High (Pslam 81/82).

God doesn’t die. If you say: “Why you are limiting my God? My God can die too”, then I would say: “Then your God who can die too (even for three days and three nights) or go to bathroom for call of nature, is not my God. I believe in Eternal God and not in a dead/dying/once dead God”.

 

[Reuben_J]

What irony the title of this thread.

Who hates who more? The answer is pretty obvious and had been said.

Muslims mentality thinks that we hate them when we speak our mind about the truth or try to explain our religion.

Just want to affirm Muslim Woman - No dear, we do not hate you. As Christians we think your religion is a fraud. We have to say that because to agree with you would be to deny our God; to agree with you would be for us to apostate.

You are always welcome here in this forum and I’m sure the benefit is mutual. Don’t tell us you are coming here for a picnic, so for you, it serves your agenda too.

May God bless you.

 

[churchcamefirst]

**Muslim woman came to bait us. She has no definitive answers. For she knows herself that her religion is false and hateful and violent. She laughs, but you know what? Jesus Christ will come at the Right Hand of The Father, and you and all of Islam will be judged. **

 

[Angelos]

Jesus will judge you (Jews and those Christians who in their minds are following him), not the Muslims.

This is only one of the many Islamic presumptions lacking evidence. You Muslims are good at following conjecture.

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Because Jesus was a Muslim. He cannot judge Muslims because Muslims are already with Jesus Christ (pbuh).**

This is as irrational and funny as the assumption that prophet Moses preferred Sprite to Fanta.

Jesus was not a Muslim in the sense that He surrendered to the man-made ideology and false teachings of your pagan prophet. He surrendered to the will of His Father when He decided to drink from the cup of His passion. Since Jesus surrendered to death on the cross (which is denied by Islam), He cannot be a follower of Mohammad’s ideology/religion.

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Jesus will throw you out by saying: “Depart from me…I never knew you” why? Because you call him Lord and then instead of following him, are following his enemy Saul/Paul.**

What an absurd assumption due to two reasons! First, Jesus never says that people calling Him Lord will be punished. Second, Paul ended His life as one of Christ’ apostles and martyrs. You should not forget that people could change. Omar, the second Khaliph of the Islamic Empire, hated Mohammad more than others and voluneteered to kill him.

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Second, Jesus’ metaphorical Father (God Almighty) is greater than him, and that Father is Father of all every Tom, D i c k and Harry including Hitler, Mussoulini, Bloody Mary, Crusaders ecc…**

Jesus is truly the only begotten of the Father (John 3:16)! Your silly argument is derived from your pathetic ignorance of the fact that Jesus compared ONLY Himself (the Son) to the Father when He said “The Father is greater than I”. He never said “God is greater than I”. You should learn to read some verses of the Gospels in their context.

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Third, Jesus is not God to judge the whole mankind, nor he claimed to be God, as, he was a** man, a son of man repeatedly mentioned even in your proven altered texts of the Holy Bibles.

Jesus IS God and He claimed to be equal to God when he said “The Father and I are ONE”. We have proven your accusations and assertions false so many times. Since you ignore our responses, no one here is taking you seriously anymore.

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Jesus ( being a Jew) may be a god or a son of the Most High (Biblically) just like how all Jews are gods and sons of the Most High (Pslam 81/82).**

This is another lie already rebutted by many posters here! Jesus is not A god, but THE God as the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son and Word. Jesus’ statements always prove you a liar.

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God doesn’t die. If you say: “Why you are limiting my God? My God can die too”, then I would say: “Then your God who can die too (even for three days and three nights) or go to bathroom for call of nature, is not my God. I believe in Eternal God and not in a dead/dying/once dead God”.

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God does not die. Jesus is both true God and true man though. He could experience death only after His incarnation!

Your scripture claims that Allah made Jesus equal to Himself by giving Him the ability to create! What a contradiction it is to state that Jesus could create as an ordinary man and prophet!

 

[churchcamefirst]

Analyzer, give it up, you are on a Catholic forum and you really don’t know much of Holy Scripture…

 

[MDK]

In the name of God , the most kind , Ever Merciful

http://theislampath.com/smf/Smileys/default/salam.gif

Salaam/peace

some Christians hate Islam & Muslims so much…unbelievable . They browse anti -Islamic sites , copy & paste & flood each threads with hate & lies .

So , I started this thread for them . Pl. Pl. those who hate us , come & submit your hateful posts here . Let other threads free from your hateful posts & let us discuss there with respect.

We despise the hatred that comes from Muslims. We despise the lies about Jesus the Christ that come from Muslims. We despise the distortion of God’s word found in the Koran. Should I keep going, or do you get the idea?

 

[dzheremi]

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Because Jesus was a Muslim. He cannot judge Muslims because Muslims are already with Jesus Christ (pbuh).

Jesus ( being a Jew) may be a god or a son of the Most High (Biblically) just like how all Jews are gods and sons of the Most High (Pslam 81/82).
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Hahaha! Look! A contradiction! Jesus is a Muslim AND a Jew! At the same time! I guess Jesus is Aaranjo…or, y’know, you’re full of it.

Face it: Muslims make claims about Jesus that are contradictory (like you just did, above), and then try to sustain those claims by saying that the Bible is corrupt. How? The BIBLE doesn’t say that Jesus was a Jew and a Christian, or a Jew and a Muslim, or a Jew and a Baha’i, or a Jew and a chicken salad, or whatever else. Jesus was a Jew. Period. There is nothing at all in the Bible to support Islam or Muslim claims to the Abrahamic tradition. That’s why you guys NEED the Quran to tell you that everyone else is wrong, and has been for centuries, and now a prophet has come from among the Arabs (also not found in the Bible, which specifies that the Messiah will come from among the Jews) to correct all this mess that the people were somehow allowed to make out of God’s holy and eternal word (directly contradicting what is actually said about the word of God in the “corrupted” Bible…I guess that’s one of the corruptions? God’s word ISN’T actually eternal? The Quran is what then?!) with the help of a new scripture given to him by the angel Gabriel (contradicting the Bible, which tell us to disbelieve any Gospel outside of it, even if given by an angel from heaven).

If you’re going to try to use the Bible to prove your claims or disprove ours, at least know what’s in it and what isn’t.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

**Jesus will judge you (Jews and those Christians who in their minds are following him), not the Muslims.

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may be ,it’s better to say , Jesus (p) will testify against Jews & Christians who denied & worshipped him. Jesus (p) as a servant of God won’t have any power to judge anyone.

 

[Angelos]

Salaam/peace

may be ,it’s better to say , Jesus (p) will testify against Jews & Christians who denied & worshipped him. Jesus (p) as a servant of God won’t have any power to judge anyone.

According to the following Koran verse, Jesus will not be able to testify against Jews and Christians because He will be burning in Hell on the day of Judgment:

Surah 21:98-99
Lo! ye (idolaters) and that which ye worship beside Allah are fuel of hell. Thereunto ye will come. If these had been gods they would not have come thither, but all will abide therein.

This is how Islam praises and reveres Jesus !

 

[cathopologist]

Hahaha! Look! A contradiction! Jesus is a Muslim AND a Jew! At the same time! I guess Jesus is Aaranjo…or, y’know, you’re full of it.

Face it: Muslims make claims about Jesus that are contradictory (like you just did, above), and then try to sustain those claims by saying that the Bible is corrupt. How? The BIBLE doesn’t say that Jesus was a Jew and a Christian, or a Jew and a Muslim, or a Jew and a Baha’i, or a Jew and a chicken salad, or whatever else. Jesus was a Jew. Period. There is nothing at all in the Bible to support Islam or Muslim claims to the Abrahamic tradition. That’s why you guys NEED the Quran to tell you that everyone else is wrong, and has been for centuries, and now a prophet has come from among the Arabs (also not found in the Bible, which specifies that the Messiah will come from among the Jews) to correct all this mess that the people were somehow allowed to make out of God’s holy and eternal word (directly contradicting what is actually said about the word of God in the “corrupted” Bible…I guess that’s one of the corruptions? God’s word ISN’T actually eternal? The Quran is what then?!) with the help of a new scripture given to him by the angel Gabriel (contradicting the Bible, which tell us to disbelieve any Gospel outside of it, even if given by an angel from heaven).

If you’re going to try to use the Bible to prove your claims or disprove ours, at least know what’s in it and what isn’t.

This shows how “learned” Muslim scholars are. If they can put a death fatwa on a cartoon character like Mickey Mouse, just imagine what Mohammad thought of Christians and Jews during his sad living years? Wait, that hasn’t gone away. 1400 years later and his legacy lives on. This is what people get when they rely on a supremacist for “religious guidance”. Marvelous!

 

[churchcamefirst]

Salaam/peace

may be ,it’s better to say , Jesus (p) will testify against Jews & Christians who denied & worshipped him. Jesus (p) as a servant of God won’t have any power to judge anyone.

Jesus Christ is the ONLY one who will have any authority and power to judge anyone.

 

[planten]

Jesus is the only JUDGE of the mankind, and He will severely punish the evildoers when He descends on the day of Judgment:

Thank you angelos for admitting that Jesus will never come again in this world. He will only come on the day of Judgement. Our Quran also tell us the same thing that Jesus will be a witness on the day of judgement against those who said that they killed him. He will be a witness against them on the day of judgement. That means he is never coming back again before day of judgement… See Al-Quran Verse 4:159.

 

[planten]

Originally Posted by Muslim Woman
Salaam/peace

may be ,it’s better to say , Jesus (p) will testify against Jews & Christians who denied & worshipped him. Jesus (p) as a servant of God won’t have any power to judge anyone

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You may be right because our book also tells us that Jesus will be a witness on the day of judgement against those who said that they killed him on the cross. Verse 4:159.

 

[maria_rose]

If the people of Islam band together and destroy AlQuaida and show that way their desire for peace and equality of all faiths and people. Then we can believe i n respect of Muslims for other people.
Why aren’t muslims fighting to destroy AlQuaida?

 

[Frank_J]

Hi Muslim Woman,

Could you explain this passage below?? I translate this to mean that Muslims shouldn’t take Jews and the Christians for friends.

1. The Table Spread (Al-Máída)
   005.051 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

islam.tc/quran/

I also notices many, many statements that would concern me as being one of hate statements in the Ouran? I read area that would cover problems statements like the one above. I see a book and a religion born in blood as Islam was founded by a man name Mohammad.

I’ve worked with Muslims and found them interesting. I had my chance to view there action with others who were not Muslims and found that the ones that don’t believe in there faith are more normal in American mine set. Yet the more religionist they get the more hateful they become. Like let’s use one Iran Muslim woman I knew at one time, she dated a Christian guy who as far as I know is still her boyfriend. She seemed very much in love with him and it was not a big problem with her parents. I would say that she was very progressive Muslim and very open mined.

Yet when one turns on TV and watches what comes out of the Middle East and see people blowing up car bombs as the killer sits in the car in order to kill oneself in order to complete there task. We Muslim religionist talk about a great Jihad against the west and western values and to those who are not Muslims aka Christians and Jews.

Over my life span I have see Muslims kill many in the name of the Muslim god. We can start with the 1972
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre
Web site above covers in short the 1972 Summer Olympics games in Munich Germany. Yet we can even look as recently at September 11, 2001 and see the killing at a great level with the killing of some 3000 people in just one day.
youtube.com/watch?v=yfce_C8GzdE&NR=1
Collapse Inside the World Trade Center! September 11, 2001
youtube.com/watch?v=2iGYVh7HZo8&NR=1
Unseen 9/11 Footage of Second Plane Hitting Tower

Yet in the streets of the middle east Muslims were dancing in the streets and they seemed to be very happy in what had happen in the U.S.A on 9/11.
bible.ca/islam/islam-kills-muslims-celebrating-sept-11-2001.htm
If you click on watch video you will see on window media player

Yet some may say that it is not news web site or one may see it as anti Muslim, but it the what the web site states but it is what one seen when you view the video that is what I question the values of these people. What did Confusess say “One image is worth ten thousand words.”

I very interested in see Muslim woman explain what she see here. Would like to know her values and where she stands on this??

Have a good day.

 

[Angelos]

Thank you angelos for admitting that Jesus will never come again in this world. He will only come on the day of Judgement. Our Quran also tell us the same thing that Jesus will be a witness on the day of judgement against those who said that they killed him. He will be a witness against them on the day of judgement. That means he is never coming back again before day of judgement… See Al-Quran Verse 4:159.

Thank you dear Planten for admitting that Jesus is the only judge of the mankind who will come with HIS angels upon the clouds in divine glory on the day of Judgment and that He is alive in Heaven now at the right hand of the Father.

 

[morning_star777]

Salaam/peace

may be ,it’s better to say , Jesus (p) will testify against Jews & Christians who denied & worshipped him. Jesus (p) as a servant of God won’t have any power to judge anyone.

Jesus will punish all anti Christs.And Jesus is not the servant of any one, he is son of God and God himself.Jesus will also judge them ,who think Jesus as the servant of a fake God.

 

[Nickkname]

[commence Sarcasm]

I Hate Muslims Because I Hate Islam And The Koran Is Stupid And Mohammed Was A Pedophile And That’s Why I Think Muslims Are Evil And Don’t Understand Christianity But Continue To Distort The Truth Just As Christians Distort The Torah Oh Well Down With Islam And It’s Stupid Stupid Laws!

[end Sarcasm]

 

[churchcamefirst]

Does Muslim woman remember where she is? On a Catholic forum! You are outnumbered by our Savior Jesus Christ!