r.gonzales:
so, you have the right to complain about the “unjust” treatment the christians who chose to live and work in muslim countries like saudi arabia, but muslims aren’t allowed to complain about the unjust treatment of other muslims who live in western “christian” countries?
similar to your statement above, the same holds true of non-muslims in muslim countries. no one’s forcing non-muslims to live and work in muslim countries earning tax-free salaries. if they don’t like the islamic law systems of muslim countries, they can leave and go live in a western non-muslim country."
What a joke of a comparison.
What you said might apply to western Christians who move to Muslim countries, but not to Middle Eastern Christians who were the indigenous peoples of the Middle East and other indigenous Christians who live in lands that were originally Christian and where Muslims invaded and conquered them and imposed their Islamic laws on them. Muslims invaded and conquered lands that were Christian, forcing Islamic law upon them and a lot of these Christians are not free to leave these countries. Christians in Iraq and Egypt etc are the indigenous people of their countries with the Muslim Arabs in power since they conquered these indigenous Christians. Some of them do not want to leave their land and prefer to suffer because they see the land as theirs and feel they should stay in their land and shouldn’t allow oppressors to force them out.
"Talking about the Muslim invasion of Egypt and the subsequent replacement of the Coptic language with Arabic, Spencer refers to one 12th century Coptic monk’s view of the Muslim invaders**:**
Coptic was indeed replaced by Arabic, but the transition was made not by nature, but by war.
One twelfth-century Coptic monk, speaking almost five hundred years after the Muslim conquest of Egypt, still found it within him to assert,
“We are the masters of this country, both from the point of view of population as well as for the land tax. The Muslims took it from us, they appropriated it by force and violence, and it is from our hands that they seized power.” He also referred to** “the massacre that they wrought on our kings and our ruling families during their conquest.”** In the fourteenth century, an Egyptian Muslim writer noted, “
the Copts declare that this country still belongs to them, and that the Muslim evicted them from it unlawfully.”
([Spencer, Robert. Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West [Regnery Publishing, Inc., 2003],] Ibid., p. 176)"
Taken from
answering-islam.org.uk/Responses/Abualrub/terrorism1.htm
(bold and underline emphasis mine)
It’s not as if Muslims were the original people in France and then the French came, invaded and conquered them and started treating them badly. Besides, the headscarf issue is nothing compared to how non-Muslims are treated under Islam.
On top of that, it’s not as if France wants to conquer the world and impose its laws on the world. However, Islam does want to do this to the world!
…But, in traditional Islam, Christian and Jewish states must be destroyed and their lands conquered. When Mohammed was waging war against Mecca in the seventh century, Christianity was the dominant religion of power and wealth. As the faith of the Roman Empire, it spanned the entire Mediterranean, including the Middle East, where it was born. The Christian world, therefore, was a prime target for the earliest caliphs, and it would remain so for Muslim leaders for the next thousand years…
With enormous energy, the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed’s death. They were extremely successful. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt—once the most heavily Christian areas in the world—quickly succumbed. By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul. The old Roman Empire, known to modern historians as the Byzantine Empire, was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East.
That is what gave birth to the Crusades.
Taken from ‘The Real History of the Crusades’ By Thomas F. Madden
crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm
(bold and underline emphasis mine)
