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If Robert Spencer is devout Catholic then I’m a practising Mormon.
Since when he denounced his Jewish faith…?
It appears his webite says otherwise. Is your statment evidence of the rament anti-semitism in islam: If someone criticizes islam they must be an evil Jew?

jihadwatch.org/spencer/
"Q: I’ve read that you are secretly a Catholic and have a religious agenda.
RS: Yes, I have been so intent on keeping this a secret that I co-wrote a book called Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics. Here again, people like to imagine that a Christian cannot write accurately about Islam, but they cannot point to any inaccuracy in my work. Nor is there any religious agenda here. I envision Jihad Watch as an opportunity for all the actual and potential victims of jihad violence and oppression – Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, secular Muslims, atheists, whatever – to join together to defend universal human rights. There are many things about which we all disagree, but at this point we need to unite simply in order to survive. We can sort out our disagreements later.

At this point the people most active, in various ways, in the work of Jihad Watch are a Catholic, a Jew, and an atheist. If we weren’t so busy trying to awaken the Western world to the threat of violent jihad, we could walk into a bar and…(fill in your own punchline).
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and more clearly to your point
"Q: I’ve read that you are actually Jewish.
RS: Again, no. Jihadists commonly label all their opponents as Jews. They don’t seem to realize that they have offended more groups than just one. I am honored to be able to stand with Jews and others in defense of human rights against the totalitarian, supremacist jihad ideology. "
 
No blanket statements about Spencer merely stating a precaution, and you gave me an answer that I was trying to get.

Thanks and God bless!!!
 
If Robert Spencer is devout Catholic then I’m a practising Mormon.
Since when he denounced his Jewish faith…?
Say hi to Joseph Smith when you go to heavan, become a god and get your own planet.
 
The book ‘Prophet Muhammad - The Last Messenger in the Bible’ can be freely downloaded in pdf. format here.
Hi hamba2han,

That’s over 500 pages long. That’s alot of reading for what seems to be quite a foolish claim (The Last Messenger in the Bible :confused: ).

Unless you can give us a crash course on Muhammad and prophecy, I can’t imagine anybody being motivated enough to read that book.
 
It appears his webite says otherwise. Is your statment evidence of the rament anti-semitism in islam: If someone criticizes islam they must be an evil Jew?

jihadwatch.org/spencer/
"Q: I’ve read that you are secretly a Catholic and have a religious agenda.
RS: Yes, I have been so intent on keeping this a secret that I co-wrote a book called Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics. Here again, people like to imagine that a Christian cannot write accurately about Islam, but they cannot point to any inaccuracy in my work. Nor is there any religious agenda here. I envision Jihad Watch as an opportunity for all the actual and potential victims of jihad violence and oppression – Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, secular Muslims, atheists, whatever – to join together to defend universal human rights. There are many things about which we all disagree, but at this point we need to unite simply in order to survive. We can sort out our disagreements later.

At this point the people most active, in various ways, in the work of Jihad Watch are a Catholic, a Jew, and an atheist. If we weren’t so busy trying to awaken the Western world to the threat of violent jihad, we could walk into a bar and…(fill in your own punchline).
"
and more clearly to your point
"Q: I’ve read that you are actually Jewish.
RS: Again, no. Jihadists commonly label all their opponents as Jews. They don’t seem to realize that they have offended more groups than just one. I am honored to be able to stand with Jews and others in defense of human rights against the totalitarian, supremacist jihad ideology. "
**You took all that that trouble and got info from his own website…? ask yourself this or if you ever have the chance to face him, then ask what is his real name is and when did he become a chatolic…(that would be nice for him) and if so why keep it a secret…? since when becoming a catholic or beign one is something to keep a secret.

Woooow what is up with this “Is your statment evidence of the rament anti-semitism in islam”, what is exactly a anti-semitism mean to you…? where the word origins come from and what is applied today…? come on…!
also, there are so called muslims who do more damage to islam then Mr. Jacobsen…or should i say Mr. Spencer…?

Let me know what you think…?**
 
**You took all that that trouble and got info from his own website…? ask yourself this or if you ever have the chance to face him, then ask what is his real name is and when did he become a chatolic…(that would be nice for him) and if so why keep it a secret…? since when becoming a catholic or beign one is something to keep a secret.

Woooow what is up with this “Is your statment evidence of the rament anti-semitism in islam”, what is exactly a anti-semitism mean to you…? where the word origins come from and what is applied today…? come on…!
also, there are so called muslims who do more damage to islam then Mr. Jacobsen…or should i say Mr. Spencer…?

Let me know what you think…?**
How is him posting that he is Catholic on his own website keeping it a secret? Is this another muslim conspiracy theory like the Jews planned 9/11? Muslims live in a fantasy world.
 
How is him posting that he is Catholic on his own website keeping it a secret? Is this another muslim conspiracy theory like the Jews planned 9/11? Muslims live in a fantasy world.
Get out of here, put your finger on it and show me where he pronounce his faith on his website, an interviewer asks him and whether or not he is a catholic and his answer was he was keeping it a secret…and what is this Muslims claiming 9/11 was a Jewish conspiracy thing. have you seen all those American professors, other normal folks who are claiming it was or it was the government, etc and if I may ask have you done a poll showing all the Muslims claim so and one last thing…why are you so negative about Islam and Muslims…whatever happen to the good old bible teachings…?

Let’s talk without been so judgemental about one another.

Can we do that…?
 
I guess you would be too busy praying to Mary and the Saints to worry about that.

zerinus
“The postmortal spirit world is an actual place where spirits reside and ‘where they converse together the same as we do on the earth’ (TPJS, p. 353). 'Life and work and activity all continue in the spirit world. Men have the same talents and intelligence there, which they had in this life. They possess the same attitudes, inclinations, and feelings there which they had in this life” (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed., p.762)

where do unbaptized little black babies go?

Black Skin and the Seed of Cain
Brigham Young taught a much greater extreme. In a sermon given on March 8, 1863, Young stated, “Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so” (Journal of Discourses, 10:110).

tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote, “It was well understood by the early elders of the Church that the mark which was placed on Cain and which his posterity inherited was the black skin. The Book of Moses informs us that Cain and his descendants were black” (The Way to Perfection, p.107

On August 28, 1881, he declared, “And after the flood we are told that the curse that had been pronounced upon Cain was continued through Ham’s wife, as he had married a wife of that seed. And why did it pass through the flood? Because it was necessary that the devil should have a representation upon the earth as well as God” (Journal of Discourses 22:304).

2 Nephi 9:15: “And it shall come to pass that when all men shall have passed from this first death unto life, insomuch as they have become immortal, they must appear before the judgment seat of the Holy One of Israel,…For the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word, which cannot pass away, that they who are righteous shall be righteous still, and they who are filthy shall be filthy still; wherefore, they who are filthy…shall go away into everlasting fire, prepared for them; and their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever and has no end.”

A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations. Forty countries, including Cuba, Taiwan and most of Europe had lower infant mortality rates than the U.S. in 2004. The U.S. rate was 6.8 deaths for every 1,000 live births. It was 13.7 for Black Americans, the same as Saudi Arabia. apnews.myway.com/article/20070812/D8QVEIRO0.html
 
Hi hamba2han,

That’s over 500 pages long. That’s alot of reading for what seems to be quite a foolish claim (The Last Messenger in the Bible :confused: ).

Unless you can give us a crash course on Muhammad and prophecy, I can’t imagine anybody being motivated enough to read that book.
Muslims do not have any problem at all accepting that the following Biblical verse is indeed a prophecy which has been fulfilled.

"And this [is] the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death. And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand [went] a fiery law for them." … Deuteronomy 33:1

If you look closely at the wording of this verse, you will see that it bears the chronological succession of the prophets of God, like the rising sun.
Came: the first appearance of daylight in the morning; dawn.
Rose up: the arrival of the sun in the morning.
Shined forth: Mid-day sun which lights up the Earth from East to West. Islam has indeed come to shine all over the earth as the mid-day sun.

http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/img/map.gif

For a more complete explanation of this prophecy, kindly go to this webpage.
 
Muslims do not have any problem at all accepting that the following Biblical verse is indeed a prophecy which has been fulfilled.
You were already refuted on this point. For any others, the points made are in this post

Hamba2han pretends that the Bible makes Paran in the “Arabian Desert” It doesn’t. Further, an additional mistake he made was by saying Ishmael is the father of the Arabs. That is not entirely true. Only some of the Arabs trace their descent to him.

What is worse is he claims that answering-islam supports his ideas - by posting a link to their site.
He adds these comments
As for my “poor geography”, I am only referring to what the Bible itself states i.e. that Paran lies in the Arabian desert and this can only mean that it is specifically Makkah as can be seen in the following excerpt which actually comes from a webpage at answering-islam.org.
It is true it goes to their site, but what they’ve done here is published comments by a user called Mishaal, actually Misha’al Al-Kadhi’. They link this site within their own pages and offer this challenge…

Misha’al Al-Kadhi’s claims several such prophecies in his “comprehensive book” on mankind’s tampering with the Bible. — Judge for yourself who is tampering. Here we look at chapter 6 in his book which claims several prophecies about Muhammad in the Bible.

Habakkuk 3:3 and a response
answering-islam.org/Muhammad/Foretold/index.html

hamba2han either didn’t read this, or he’s here to misrepresent his own evidence… because it’s the comments of a Moslem whom they themselves refute.
 
Hello:

I’m new to Catholic Answers.

Could someone recommend some books on a truthful, historical perspective on the origins of Islam??
Why are there two threads by the same author on the same topic?

And paarsurrey’s given the opportunity to begin spamming with the (not quite exact) same response on both!
Hi

I would like to recommend you for reading the life account of Muhammad in the book “INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN” by MIRZA MAHMUD AHMAD by accessing
alislam.org/ in the books section.

Thanks
and
Hi

I would suggest you reading “INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN”
BY MIRZA MAHMUD AHMAD, Son of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 by accessing

alislam.org/library/books/Introduction-Study-Holy-Quran.pdf

Thanks
 
The other thread got derailed
So the same guy opens another thread with the same question?

I see what happened is that the other one was initially posted on the Eastern Christian threads and got moved over here - without anyone realising he’d opend the same thread topic on these threads.
 
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