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Montalban said:
So the same guy opens another thread with the same question?

I see what happened is that the other one was initially posted on the Eastern Christian threads and got moved over here - without anyone realising he’d opend the same thread topic on these threads.
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yup, maybe he wasnt happy with the first one, so tried again…
 
Montalban said:
You were already refuted on this point. For any others, the points made are in this post

Hamba2han pretends that the Bible makes Paran in the “Arabian Desert” It doesn’t.
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I have already replied to your post here.

If Christians choose to not believe in what is clearly written in their own Bible with regard to the location of the Biblical ‘Paran’, then I’m afraid that this is really not my problem to deal with.
 
hamba2han said:
I have already replied to your post here.

If Christians choose to not believe in what is clearly written in their own Bible with regard to the location of the Biblical ‘Paran’, then I’m afraid that this is really not my problem to deal with.
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But you offered new information which I just addressed; an address which you now ignore… espcially over your embarrassing citing of answering-islam as if they support your cause.
 
Montalban said:
paarsurrey must be happy as Larry! Two chances to spam!
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Here is an interesting article about Ahmadiyya Muslims in the Maryland town of Walkersville wanting to buy a large tract of land.

"http://bp2.blogger.com/_g1DYS5F6OcI/Ru_dTYFgckI/AAAAAAAAAGo/LVXwHnvh6yo/s400/mosque.jpgThe centerpiece of the media campaign that the AMC is waging is that they are a “good people.” That begs the question of why they have spent so much money and time to tell us so, over and over again through purchased print ads and visits to our churches? The redundancy of effort on their part smacks of propaganda and causes us to question their true long-term designs on a venture here. "

Vickie
 
 
Montalban said:
So the same guy opens another thread with the same question?

I see what happened is that the other one was initially posted on the Eastern Christian threads and got moved over here - without anyone realising he’d opend the same thread topic on these threads.
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He is new Monty give him a break.

I don’t know if he actually got moved ? does anyone get moved from the Eastern, are they awake actually? Need coffeee
It is too early in the morning I’m having a cafeen fit.
Can’t even spell it write.
D.
 
OK now I see where I am dah it is moved but I am not on the non-moved one so I will have a choice nothing like it, didn’t think it was posssible.😃 But don’t expect me to repeat myself aha repeat myself there I did it.
D.
 
thedavidwilson said:
Ha! The first warning sign is Karen Armstrong in the list. She is a failed nun who believes islam is a totally peaceful religion in its teachings and practice. Try something by people who have converted from islam (if they have not been murdered by other muslims for apostasy, as mandated by islamic law). They will have seen islam from the inside and outside. Remember to check out Robert Spencer and Blogging the Quran. He mainly quotes islamic scholars from toady and in the past and their interpretations of islam and its history.
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I don’t think Karen ARmstrong is so bad, just because she is an exnun?I got one of her books at a Catholic Church library to read.
Jerusalem, One City, three Faiths.1997

It is interesting and very historical and factual not biased.

I didn’t know this thread existed so I have to read further.
D.
 
AbeOman said:
Get out of here, put your finger on it and show me where he pronounce his faith on his website, an interviewer asks him and whether or not he is a catholic and his answer was he was keeping it a secret…and what is this Muslims claiming 9/11 was a Jewish conspiracy thing. have you seen all those American professors, other normal folks who are claiming it was or it was the government, etc and if I may ask have you done a poll showing all the Muslims claim so and one last thing…why are you so negative about Islam and Muslims…whatever happen to the good old bible teachings…?

Let’s talk without been so judgemental about one another.

Can we do that…?
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Here is the quote from Spencer’s website. This is from his FAQ section. It states pretty clearly that he is Catholic and not Jewish.

The Conspiracy Theorists of 9/11 you mention are just as crazy as Muslims who thinkt the same. Popular Mechanics actually did a piece on debunking the claims of these folks.

Here is another quote in response to your remark about bible teachings:
“Tolerance does not apply to truth or principles. About these things we must be intolerant, and for this kind of intolerance, so much needed to rouse us from sentimental gush, I make a plea. Intolerance of this kind is the foundation of stability.”
  • His Excellency Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, Servant of God
jihadwatch.org/spencer/
"Q: I’ve read that you are secretly a Catholic and have a religious agenda.
RS: Yes, I have been so intent on keeping this a secret that I co-wrote a book called Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics. Here again, people like to imagine that a Christian cannot write accurately about Islam, but they cannot point to any inaccuracy in my work. Nor is there any religious agenda here. I envision Jihad Watch as an opportunity for all the actual and potential victims of jihad violence and oppression – Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, secular Muslims, atheists, whatever – to join together to defend universal human rights. There are many things about which we all disagree, but at this point we need to unite simply in order to survive. We can sort out our disagreements later.

At this point the people most active, in various ways, in the work of Jihad Watch are a Catholic, a Jew, and an atheist. If we weren’t so busy trying to awaken the Western world to the threat of violent jihad, we could walk into a bar and…(fill in your own punchline).
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and more clearly to your point
"Q: I’ve read that you are actually Jewish.
RS: Again, no. Jihadists commonly label all their opponents as Jews. They don’t seem to realize that they have offended more groups than just one. I am honored to be able to stand with Jews and others in defense of human rights against the totalitarian, supremacist jihad ideology. "
 
zerinus said:
I guess you would be too busy praying to Mary and the Saints to worry about that.

zerinus
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I guess you don’t understand the Catholic devotion to Mary. We don’t pray to Mary, we ask her to pray for us. Our souls are imortal. Just as you can ask someone on earth to pray for you you can ask someone in heaven to pray for you, since they are still in existance. The Mormons on the other hand believe they will become Gods of their own universe when they die. God bless.
 
thedavidwilson said:
I guess you don’t understand the Catholic devotion to Mary. We don’t pray to Mary, we ask her to pray for us. Our souls are imortal. Just as you can ask someone on earth to pray for you you can ask someone in heaven to pray for you, since they are still in existance. The Mormons on the other hand believe they will become Gods of their own universe when they die. God bless.
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You are as ignorant of Mormonism as you are of Catholicism. Catholics do pray to Mary; and Mormons don’t believe that they “become gods of their own universe when they die”.

zerinus
 
zerinus said:
You are as ignorant of Mormonism as you are of Catholicism. Catholics do pray to Mary; and Mormons don’t believe that they “become gods of their own universe when they die”.

zerinus
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We pray through the intercession of Mary , and many saints,
as we aknowledge our shortcomings.
D.
 
zerinus said:
You are as ignorant of Mormonism as you are of Catholicism. Catholics do pray to Mary; and Mormons don’t believe that they “become gods of their own universe when they die”.

zerinus
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Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
***pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death. ***
Amen.
 
zerinus said:
You are as ignorant of Mormonism as you are of Catholicism. Catholics do pray to Mary; and Mormons don’t believe that they “become gods of their own universe when they die”.

zerinus
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From:christian-faith.com/forjesus/mormon-religion

Mormonism now teaches that God was once a man, and that man may become a God (through mormonism, of course). This contradicts the book of mormon itself, but mormons don’t really follow what the book of Mormon says anyway. Mormons are taught that God the Father is now on a planet near the star Kolob with his wives having spiritual children. They believe that Jesus and Lucifer (Satan) were once spirit brothers. They once taught that Jesus was married to more than one wife (I’m not sure if this doctrine is still taught). Some of the other fascinating religious beliefs of this group are listed below later in this page.
 
i thought this was about islam.
thedavidwilson said:
Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
***pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death. ***
Amen.
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Is that a prayer?

If yes, who are you praying to?
 
thedavidwilson said:
Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
***pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death. ***
Amen.
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I call that praying to Mary. This is just one kind of prayer that is offered to Mary. There are many more. Here is one good list that I found:

campus.udayton.edu/mary/marprayer.html

And more prayers to Mary and the Saints:

ourladyweb.com/mary-prayers.html

zerinus
 
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