Islamic Religion and the Blessed Mother

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Sugardumplin:** What is the history and connection the Islamic religion has with the Blessed Mother?
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Jermin Savory:** This answer you will have to the above question if you read the whole of surah 19 in the Qur’an which is intitled “Surah Marayam.” Which is a surah dedicated to the Mother Of Jesus. (P) I you like I can post the whole surah on this thread if you’d like.
 
Jermin Savory ---- Post #17:
In the internet, the connection between Mohamedanism and The Blessed Virgin Mary is the VIRGIN BIRTH OF OF ISA (JESUS).

In the name of Allah

Jermin Savory: There is no such thing as calling Muslims muhammadians or using the word Muhammadanism. We Muslims don’t worship Muhammad, (P) nor do we have a religion named after Muhammad (P). He is the Prophet. (P)
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Jermin Savory

In the Koran, is there or are there other people who were born of a virgin mother without a human father?
 
Jermin Savory Post#17:
In the internet, the connection between Mohamedanism and The Blessed Virgin Mary is the VIRGIN BIRTH OF OF ISA (JESUS).

In the name of Allah

Jermin Savory: There is no such thing as calling Muslims muhammadians or using the word Muhammadanism. We Muslims don’t worship Muhammad, (P) nor do we have a religion named after Muhammad (P). He is the Prophet. (P)
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Jermin Savory

Sorry for the mistake. So, the religion of the Muslims is ISLAM?
 
I thought Allah just meant “God,” and could be used in the polytheistic (ie the gods) or monothestic (ie Praise to God!).
 
Jermin Savory:
In the name of Allah

Mugenone, you are correct, we don’t, As Muslims, we don’t believe that Jesus (P) os God. For the simple fact that he was created. We don’t believe in Jesus (P) as the son of God, because he was Just a Prophet (P). He may be the son of God in the rightous sense but not literally. You are also right that we don’t believe that he was crucified, even the Bible, if read properly, will confirm this fact.
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How does the Bible confirm this?
 
Fuzzbunny: How does the Bible confirm this?

Jermin Savory: I believe this would not be the appropriate thread for this topic. However, if you’d like we can start another topic on the Crucifixion. But in short, the bible doesn’t agree to (If read properly) the Myth that Jesus *(P) was crucified. The “crucifixion” of Jesus is no more than a myth believed and accepted by the vast which is the equivalent of Children believeing for hundreds of years that santa clause exist. If anyone disagree with me, please, I stand for correction.
 
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FuzzyBunny116:
I thought Allah just meant “God,” and could be used in the polytheistic (ie the gods) or monothestic (ie Praise to God!).
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Hello FuzzyBunny,

Al-Lah means “The One”.

In the Quran, Allah gives himself 99 names like “The Merciful”, “The Just”, “The Truthful”.

Praise be to God is “Alhamdullilah”

Munawar
 
Fuzzbunny: I thought Allah just meant “God,” and could be used in the polytheistic (ie the gods) or monothestic (ie Praise to God!).

Jermin Savory: Allah, in the Arabic language means, one and only. I’ll quote to you a verse from the Glorious Qur’an. Allah knew in His divine wisdom that people were going to ask the Prophet (P) who is your lord, and this is the answer Allah gives through the angel Gabriel, Commanding the prophet (P) to say if the disbelievers would ask “who is his lord.” As you can see the verse starts out, “Say” as though he is being commanded to say.
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Qur’an 112:1-4**
  1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
  2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
  3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
  4. And there is none like unto Him.
 
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If you read chapter 19, entitled “Mary” in the Quran, you will learn a lot about what we believe about her.

She is not a prophet, but one of the greatest most pious woman to ever walk this earth. She was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus (peace be upon him).

Read the chapter if you get a chance, God can tell you her story better than me.

p.s. that chapter entitled “mary” is not the only place where Mary is mentioned
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Faith 101

Thanks for the reference in the Koran on a whole chapter on Mary!!! This does not surprise me because in the Internet, I read, that in Southern Philippines is a shrine called Fort Pillar and Muslims and Catholics have been visiting the Shrine, lighting candles, paying their respect to Maryam for some 400 years now!!!. Can you imagine that? 400 years!!! There wasn’t even a United States yet!!!

The story I read was like this. This was a Military Fort to protect the Spaniards against Muslim pirates. One night, a spanish soldier (sentinel) was on duty guarding the Fort. Then in the semi darkness, he saw a woman dressed in muslim clothes… He shouted, “Stop. who goes there?” As he approached, he realized that this was no ordinary woman but the Blessed Virgin Mary carrying her child Jesus Christ. He said Blessed Virgin Mary, please forgive me. I am just a poor spanish sentinel trying to do my duty. That very night, the spanish sentinel had a very high fever and died!!! But before dying, his superior was able to question him. That’s why we know about his encounter with the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Child Jesus.

Muslim fishermen say that in tidalwaves, they sometimes see a woman on top of the waves carrying a child. Then they know that she is protecting them. This shrine of Mary is I understand very near Sumatra, Indonesia. Maybe Mary was protecting Muslim Filipinos because in that Sumatra Earthquake, not one Muslim died in Philippine Territory or Waters. Yet, tens of thousands of Muslims died from Sumatra all the way to East Africa along with Buddhists, Hindus, and people from other religions and countries.
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Eurasian: Sorry for the mistake. So, the religion of the Muslims is ISLAM?

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Jermin Savory:** Yes you are correct Eurasian, islam is the way of life prescribed by Allah (God), which means submission to His divine will only. This is the way of life that does not lead to error. One who practices islam will receive salvation from his or her lord. One who submits his will to his creator and strive for the pleasure of Allah (God) in this life, will have a reward from his lord in the after life most bountiful.
 
In the name of Allah

Eurasian: in Southern Philippines is a shrine called Fort Pillar and Muslims and Catholics have been visiting the Shrine, lighting candles, paying their respect to Maryam for some 400 years now!!!. Can you imagine that? 400 years!!! There wasn’t even a United States yet!!!

**Jermin Savory: **Eurasian, Muslims don’t do idol worship. If the specific group of people are worshiping this shrine and doing all that you’ve said, they are not Muslims. I’m a muslim and trust me, I know what we can and cannot do. Therefore I can’t imagine that.

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Eurasian:** He said Blessed Virgin Mary, please forgive me. I am just a poor spanish sentinel trying to do my duty.
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Jermin Savory:** I’m affraid the person you are describing to be a “Muslim” is not a Muslim. Muslims recognize that there is no other gods besides the One true Creator in which he would turn to for forgivness. Muslims don’t ask anyone besides Allah for forgivness, therefore this “fisherman” is not a Muslim.
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Eurasian:** Muslim fishermen say that in tidalwaves, they sometimes see a woman on top of the waves carrying a child. Then they know that she is protecting them.

Jermin Savory: Perhaps you can give me a link to this story, then we can go more into details. But to the point, There is no other being in which muslims should turn to for protection other that Allah.

Allah says in the Qur’an, in Surah Baqarah 2:255

“Allah is He besides Whom there is no god, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all subsist; slumber does not overtake Him nor sleep; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot comprehend anything out of His knowledge except what He pleases, His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth, and the preservation of them both tires Him not, and He is the Most High, the Great.”
 
Jermin Savory, Munawar

In the Koran, ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES JESUS(ISA) WHO WERE OR WHO WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN MOTHER WITHOUT A HUMAN FATHER?
 
In the name of Allah

Eurasian: Maybe Mary was protecting Muslim Filipinos because in that Sumatra Earthquake, not one Muslim died in Philippine Territory or Waters. Yet, tens of thousands of Muslims died from Sumatra all the way to East Africa along with Buddhists, Hindus, and people from other religions and countries.

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Jermin Savory**: You are theologically tring to link catholicism with islam and this you will not be successful in doing. Muslims don’t acknowledge mary in any divine way. She was only a rightous women of God.

Qur’an Kahf 18:26

Say: "Allah knows best how long they stayed: with Him is (the knowledge of) the secrets of the heavens and the earth: how clearly He sees, how finely He hears (everything)! They have no protector other than Him; nor does He share His Command with any person whatsoever. "
 
Jermin Savory:
In the name of Allah

Eurasian: Maybe Mary was protecting Muslim Filipinos because in that Sumatra Earthquake, not one Muslim died in Philippine Territory or Waters. Yet, tens of thousands of Muslims died from Sumatra all the way to East Africa along with Buddhists, Hindus, and people from other religions and countries.

Jermin Savory: You are theologically tring to link catholicism with islam and this you will not be successful in doing. Muslims don’t acknowledge mary in any divine way. She was only a rightous women of God.
Jermin

Does God listen to HOLY people?

Qur’an Kahf 18:26

Say: "Allah knows best how long they stayed: with Him is (the knowledge of) the secrets of the heavens and the earth: how clearly He sees, how finely He hears (everything)! They have no protector other than Him; nor does He share His Command with any person whatsoever. "
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Eurasian: In the Koran, are there other people besides Jesus (isa) wo where or who was born of a virgin mother without a human father?

Jermin Savory: You question is ver important. Mary (P) was a special women In the Quran, Mary’s story begins while she is still in her mother’s womb. The mother of Mary, said: “O my Lord! I do dedicate into Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service: So accept this of me: For Thou hearest and knowest all things.” Quran 3:35. The specific Miracle of conceiveing as a Virgin belongs to Mary, and her son Jesus. (P) This is the miracle that Mary (P) was chosen above all women to do. As you can see from the above, Mary (P) before being born, she was dedicated to the service of Allah.
 
In the name of Allah

Eurasian: Does God listen to HOLY people?

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Jermin Savory:** You’ve included the above Question in my writing below as if that was what I wrote, maybe you made a mistake but I didn’t ask the Question above, neither did I answer it. But somehow you’ve pasted it in my writing.
 
Jermin

Yes, Post #34 was a mistake in my computer processing. Let me repeat my question.
Does God listen to HOLY people?
 
The Eurasian:
Jermin Savory, Munawar

In the Koran, ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES JESUS(ISA) WHO WERE OR WHO WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN MOTHER WITHOUT A HUMAN FATHER?
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Hello Eurasian,

If being born without a father is a sign of something special, then Adam was born without father OR mother.

Munawar
 
Munawar ------ See Post #38:
Hello Eurasian,

If being born without a father is a sign of something special, then Adam was born without father OR mother.

Munawar
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Munawar

Aside from Adam and Eve, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT MUSLIMS KNOW WHO WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN MOTHER WITHOUT A HUMAN FATHER.

PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THESE CLONNINGS OF THE 20th and 21st centuries.
 
In the name of Allah

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Eurasian:** Aside from Adam and Eve, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT MUSLIMS KNOW WHO WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN MOTHER WITHOUT A HUMAN FATHER.
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Jermin Savory: ** Mary (P) the Mother of Jesus (P) is the only example in the Qur’an that I know of getting pregnant without a man and giving birth.
 
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