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Darryl1958
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Are the rockets false too?
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JorduSpeaks
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Seriously? What truces did Hamas abide by? Every time there is a cease-fire declared, Hamas launches rockets at Israel during the cease-fire. As for negotiations, when Israel offered to cede 99% of the so-called ‘occupied territories’, Hamas flatly rejected the offer, because they consider ALL of Israel to be occupied territories.
Israel has shown more restraint in fighting the Palestinian terrorists and done more to safeguard civilians than any nation on Earth, ever. Otherwise, the Gaza strip would be a ribbon of molten glass by now. The only reason civilian casualties are so high among the Palestinians is because when Israel warns them to evacuate, their own leaders warn them to go back to sitting on munitions.
Israel uses its rockets to protect its civilians. Palestinians use their civilians to protect their rockets. There is no moral equivalency.
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Timothysis
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No, they’re helping to “resist.”
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Sarcelle
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What will happen to the Jewish people living in Israel once it ceases to be a nation?
Where will you recommend that they go?
You say that nations do not have the right to existence the way people do. Once a nation ceases to be, what happens to its people?
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Ridgerunner
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Oftentimes they’re dispersed to the ends of the earth and are resented by those among whom they seek refuge; the latter then deciding now and then to have progroms and holocausts.
Which is exactly why Jews want Israel to continue in existence.
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Coatimundi
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Netanyahu Warns of Wider Israel Operation in Gaza
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said Friday that he had ordered the military to “prepare for the possibility of widening, significantly,” the ground operation in the Gaza Strip begun Thursday night, but acknowledged “there is no guarantee of 100 percent success.”
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The Israeli military said that it had uncovered more than 20 “tunnel access points” in Gaza during the ground campaign’s first hours, hit more than 150 sites in the coastal territory, and killed at least 17 militants.
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Residents of northern Gaza said that Israeli tanks were not pushing deep into the territory but had remained in position on a swath of sand, and that it was relatively calm at midday after a night of shelling and machine-gun fire. Some said that they had heard tank shells and that they thought Israel might be clearing the way for further incursions later.
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Along the road that runs parallel to Gaza’s eastern boundary and about a mile into Israeli territory, dozens of tanks topped with Israeli flags were parked in fields, with soldiers on standby. Clouds of dust covered the road in the wake of military vehicles on the move in what had become a huge staging ground. The Israeli military has begun calling up 18,000 more reservists, adding to the 50,000 already mobilized for the campaign.
nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/middleeast/israel-gaza.html
The Israeli military has reported encountering “friction” at several locations. Airstrikes from Israel have continued, as has rocket fire from Gaza.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said Friday that he had ordered the military to “prepare for the possibility of widening, significantly,” the ground operation in the Gaza Strip begun Thursday night, but acknowledged “there is no guarantee of 100 percent success.”
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The Israeli military said that it had uncovered more than 20 “tunnel access points” in Gaza during the ground campaign’s first hours, hit more than 150 sites in the coastal territory, and killed at least 17 militants.
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Residents of northern Gaza said that Israeli tanks were not pushing deep into the territory but had remained in position on a swath of sand, and that it was relatively calm at midday after a night of shelling and machine-gun fire. Some said that they had heard tank shells and that they thought Israel might be clearing the way for further incursions later.
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Along the road that runs parallel to Gaza’s eastern boundary and about a mile into Israeli territory, dozens of tanks topped with Israeli flags were parked in fields, with soldiers on standby. Clouds of dust covered the road in the wake of military vehicles on the move in what had become a huge staging ground. The Israeli military has begun calling up 18,000 more reservists, adding to the 50,000 already mobilized for the campaign.
nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/middleeast/israel-gaza.html
The Israeli military has reported encountering “friction” at several locations. Airstrikes from Israel have continued, as has rocket fire from Gaza.
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estesbob
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As Shabbat begins, our soldiers stand as one. We will not rest in our fight to restore calm to Israel. Terror will not stop us.
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Coatimundi
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Israeli officials have repeatedly cited the Gaza tunnels as a major reason for the ground offensive. Here is some explanation of their concern:
By Friday, the Israeli military said it had already uncovered approximately 13 openings of “terror tunnels, “and that there were “dozens” spread around Gaza. In a statement, it described tunnels crossing the border from Gaza to Israel as “complex and advanced,” and said they were “intended to carry out attacks such as abductions of Israeli civilians and soldiers alike; infiltrations into Israeli communities, mass murders and hostage-taking scenarios.”
Gadi Shamni, a former commander of the Israeli army’s Gaza division and of its central command, said that destroying the tunnels posed a technological and operational challenge and that each had offshoots going in different directions, making it difficult to track and disable the whole route.
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Hamas’s military wing has repeatedly boasted that it has “surprises” in store for Israel, presumably a reference to its tunnel network.
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A propaganda video posted by Hamas’s military wing on its website on Thursday showed its special forces training for an operation against a background of dramatic music. In a mock village similar to ones that can be found in Israeli military bases they went from house to house, blasting open doors and throwing smoke grenades inside before entering and shooting wildly.
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Several other “offensive tunnels,” as the military calls them, have been discovered in the last few years, some packed with explosives.
In 2012 one tunnel blew up, injuring a soldier and destroying an army jeep. In 2013 the army discovered a mile-long tunnel leading from a house in Gaza to Kibbutz Ein Hashlosha. It had electricity and a phone line. In March, the army found another one it said looked like a subway passage.
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Others tunnels lead from homes in Gaza to concealed rocket launchers or are used to store weapons, according to Israeli military officials. “Actually there are two Gazas,” one senior military official said. “One above ground and another under the ground.”
nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/middleeast/hamas-gaza-strip-tunnels-led-to-israels-invasion.html
By Friday, the Israeli military said it had already uncovered approximately 13 openings of “terror tunnels, “and that there were “dozens” spread around Gaza. In a statement, it described tunnels crossing the border from Gaza to Israel as “complex and advanced,” and said they were “intended to carry out attacks such as abductions of Israeli civilians and soldiers alike; infiltrations into Israeli communities, mass murders and hostage-taking scenarios.”
Gadi Shamni, a former commander of the Israeli army’s Gaza division and of its central command, said that destroying the tunnels posed a technological and operational challenge and that each had offshoots going in different directions, making it difficult to track and disable the whole route.
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Hamas’s military wing has repeatedly boasted that it has “surprises” in store for Israel, presumably a reference to its tunnel network.
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A propaganda video posted by Hamas’s military wing on its website on Thursday showed its special forces training for an operation against a background of dramatic music. In a mock village similar to ones that can be found in Israeli military bases they went from house to house, blasting open doors and throwing smoke grenades inside before entering and shooting wildly.
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Several other “offensive tunnels,” as the military calls them, have been discovered in the last few years, some packed with explosives.
In 2012 one tunnel blew up, injuring a soldier and destroying an army jeep. In 2013 the army discovered a mile-long tunnel leading from a house in Gaza to Kibbutz Ein Hashlosha. It had electricity and a phone line. In March, the army found another one it said looked like a subway passage.
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Others tunnels lead from homes in Gaza to concealed rocket launchers or are used to store weapons, according to Israeli military officials. “Actually there are two Gazas,” one senior military official said. “One above ground and another under the ground.”
nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/middleeast/hamas-gaza-strip-tunnels-led-to-israels-invasion.html
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JimR-OCDS
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And all along, Americans ignore or are ignorant of the main cause blocking peace.
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As long as Palestinians homes are destroyed and they are displaced to make room for these Jewish Settlements, they will support radical groups like Hamas, who are the only voice speaking out for them.
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estesbob
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Story says the land is owned by private contractors who bought it years ago.
So on one hand we have real estate developers building homes on land they legally purchased, on the other hand we have a people who refuse to acknowledge Israels right to exit and you blame the real estate developers for blocking peace?
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estesbob
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Does the Palestinians having the right to a State of their own mean no Jews can live in that State?
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JimR-OCDS
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This is occupied territory with the Israeli military present and in charge. The land was owned by Palestinians before they were driven off it and it was sold to the private developers for the development of settlements.
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JimR-OCDS
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If the Palestinians do not have control of their own land, it’s not a state. The government of Israel controls the West Bank, not Palestinians.
Netanyahu opposes a Palestinian State on the West Bank.
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shockerfan
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So who oppresses the Palestinian people more: Hamas who puts bombs and rockets in schools, homes and mosques in Gaza, or Israel who tries to take out the bombs and rockets to protect its citizens?
Also, the Church, Israel, Palestine, and all Muslim states say that Palestine has a right to exist, unfortunately, only the Church and Israel state that Israel has a right to exist. Doesn’t that seem to be the crux of the problem?
Also, the Church, Israel, Palestine, and all Muslim states say that Palestine has a right to exist, unfortunately, only the Church and Israel state that Israel has a right to exist. Doesn’t that seem to be the crux of the problem?
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JimR-OCDS
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estesbob
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Who controls the land on the other side of that Narrow Strip? Dont they have any responsibility to take in the Palestinians?
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JimR-OCDS
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Why does Egypt have more responsibility to take in the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 when the State of Israel was declared, than Israel has to allow them to return to their homes ?
Why doesn’t Israel allow the displaced Palestinians to move back to the homes they had for generations before 1948 ?
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Why doesn’t Israel allow the displaced Palestinians to move back to the homes they had for generations before 1948 ?
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shockerfan
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Would the Church recognize the state of Israel or would that not be the function of the Holy See, which does have an Apostolic Nunciature in Israel? I know its not proper usage, but I do tend to include the “Holy See” when I speak of “The Church” relative to political subjects.
Also, there was a “Fundamental Agreement” between the Holy See and Israel signed in 1993. I would venture that if “the Church” did not recognized the state of Israel, then the Holy See would not have signed such an agreement?
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stevegravy
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Well, IMHO, some yahoo shooting rockets at me or my people, deserve to have everything they touch turned into dust, rubble, and busted glass. In fact, with nukes I would sorely be tempted to turn the entire place into a glass desert. The morons who think rockets are a political statement don’t deserve to breath anymore. Gaza is for all intents and purposes an independent state and can suffer the fate of independent states that rain rockets on their neighbors.
If anything the IDF is being stupid putting its soldiers at risk trying to minimize collateral damage. William Tecumseh Sherman was right about war, the rebels hated him but it brought peace.
If anything the IDF is being stupid putting its soldiers at risk trying to minimize collateral damage. William Tecumseh Sherman was right about war, the rebels hated him but it brought peace.
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7_Sorrows
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Yes. They go into diaspora which is what happened in 70 a.d. when the second temple was destroyed until the State of Israel was created after World War II.
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