It's NOT in the Bible

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stewstew03 said:
Respectfully, 174a, if you have decided that you have nothing to learn from anyone here – why are you here…? :hmmm:

I’m a strong Catholic, but I still find myself learning from both Catholics and Protestants on CAF.

A quote from Benjamin Franklin comes to mind: “Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.”
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Thinking that you know it all is a sign of ignorance. (Is that better than the B.F. quote? :))

I am still learning and you say you are still learning, that is good, the knack is being willing to modify our position accordingly.

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What has the legend of Robin Hood got to do with the bible? That article was just a badly written piece of anti-Catholic propaganda.
 
174a said:
The confusion of course is simple, there are so many men adding their interpretation. This is why we need only one source and that is the author and finisher of our faith the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 12:2 “Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.”

Following the teaching of Jesus identifies us as Christians, otherwise we are simply the followers of men.

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And that is why Jesus founded His Church as “the” source of divine interpretation.
 
Saintlucy said:
What has the legend of Robin Hood got to do with the bible? That article was just a badly written piece of anti-Catholic propaganda.
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That was in response to post 367 who said this : -

“Instead of copying/pasting over 500 words (who has time to read all that?), how about giving me the short version? And do you have an opinion on what you’re asking me to read, or is this just something for me to read at my leisure…?”

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Nicea325 said:
And that is why Jesus founded His Church as “the” source of divine interpretation.
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The Christian church is the assembly or association of followers of Jesus Christ, with Christ at the head. See Hebrews 10:25 and other scriptures.

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JustaServant said:
Since we can’t resurrect threads over one year old I am re-posting Church Militant’s thread from Apologetics from a couple years ago.
I want to hear from our new members as to this subject.
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Hello. Respectfully, because you asked:

“And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.” Isaiah 8:19,20

“But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned [them]; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:13-17

May the Lord continue to bless you all.

-Omar S.

“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, [be] with you all. Amen” 2 Corinthians 13:14
 
174a said:
That was in response to post 367 who said this : -

“Instead of copying/pasting over 500 words (who has time to read all that?), how about giving me the short version? And do you have an opinion on what you’re asking me to read, or is this just something for me to read at my leisure…?”

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But it doesn’t make sense. Sorry.
 
174a said:
The Christian church is the assembly or association of followers of Jesus Christ, with Christ at the head. See Hebrews 10:25 and other scriptures.

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Actually it is more than just an assembly. It is also His Mystical Body and the pillar of Truth as stated in the Scriptures.
 
174a said:
The confusion of course is simple, there are so many men adding their interpretation. This is why we need only one source and that is **the author and finisher of our faith the Lord Jesus Christ. **

Hebrews 12:2 “Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.”

Following the teaching of Jesus identifies us as Christians, otherwise we are simply the followers of men.

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1st bold: What interpretation of men do you read your bible translation from?

2nd bold: I agree.

3rd bold: I agree. However, do you think He wants several divided church “bodies” or one church body?

How do you reconcile 2nd and 3rd bold with your 1st bold?

In Him.

PS - You have not pointed to the first of a “lot” of traditions not found in the Bible.
 
174a said:
Thinking that you know it all is a sign of ignorance. (Is that better than the B.F. quote? :))

I am still learning and you say you are still learning, that is good, the knack is being willing to modify our position accordingly.

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Yes, except your position (Sola Scriptura) is unbiblical, so I cannot adopt it.
 
stewstew03 said:
From your perspective, is it a unified body?

[BIBLEDRB]Phil. 2:2[/BIBLEDRB]
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Well were all going to have to get along and respect each other or is the RCC going to give a little and the Protestants will give alittle and the Christians can all worship together.

All Christians are the body of Christ, and if neither wants to give, thats the way it is, no since squabbling about it. I think its about as unified as its going to get.
 
Luvtosew said:
Well were all going to have to get along and respect each other or is the RCC going to give a little and the Protestants will give alittle and the Christians can all worship together.

All Christians are the body of Christ, and if neither wants to give, thats the way it is, no since squabbling about it. I think its about as unified as its going to get.
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I think Catholics need to be as vigilant in their evangelizing as are protestant evangelicals. But Church doctrine cannot change or Satan will have won…
 
stewstew03 said:
I think Catholics need to be as vigilant in their evangelizing as are protestant evangelicals. But Church doctrine cannot change or Satan will have won…
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See thats just what I mean, Catholics won’t give and neither will any Protestants. I know doctrine can’t change. so we can evangelize as much as we can, but the most important thing is to keep Christians from leaving the Christian faith if you know what I mean.
And we must realize, for every Protestant becoming Catholic, there is a Catholic leaving and becoming Protestant. May we should be working on other faiths.
 
Luvtosew said:
See thats just what I mean, Catholics won’t give and neither will any Protestants. I know doctrine can’t change. so we can evangelize as much as we can, but the most important thing is to keep Christians from leaving the Christian faith if you know what I mean.
And we must realize, for every Protestant becoming Catholic, there is a Catholic leaving and becoming Protestant. May we should be working on other faiths.
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What do you propose the Catholic Church give in to?
 
Isaiah45_9 said:
What do you propose the Catholic Church give in to?
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well it can’t, its kinda locked in, and well as you know Isaiah, it is very different than most mainline Protestant churches, except the Luthers and some Anglicans, so in my mind its just never going to happen that there will be just one Christian Church, although I’m sure God would love it, but I think God would love to see both work together to convert non Christians into Christians, Protestant or Catholic, Christian is the main thing. Sad but reality.

I know the Rcc and the Baptist can do commercials, on one side of the screen the Baptist can say we teach and concentrate on the Bible and then the RC can say we have the Eucharist and the Sacraments, we hope you’ll pick one of us for your journey to the Christian faith . and let people go from there.😃

PS: my husband says I’m a dreamer.😃
 
Luvtosew said:
See thats just what I mean, Catholics won’t give and neither will any Protestants. I know doctrine can’t change. so we can evangelize as much as we can, but the most important thing is to keep Christians from leaving the Christian faith if you know what I mean.
And we must realize, for every Protestant becoming Catholic, there is a Catholic leaving and becoming Protestant. May we should be working on other faiths.
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She has a point. Think of this: Say there’s a lurker or two on here that wants something more in thier life. At this point, they aren’t sure, and maybe they want to turn to church, or God. They come here seeing Catholics and Protestants at each other, saying one is right and the other is not. How would they feel? What does that say about us a Christians? We could be losing people for Jesus because we bicker about whose Church is “The True Church” What matters, IMHO, is we preach the healing and loving and forgiveness that only God and His Only Begotton Son can give. Catholics and Protestents have good and bad about them. But there is common ground. Important common ground, I might add. So, maybe bicker less, and reach out more?
 
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