It's official: Paul VI and Oscar Romero will be canonized

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I can recall when Liberation Theology was marginalized as leftist - glad to see times have changed!
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CDW, INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE “THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION” – Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, 1984:
17. In this full presentation of Christianity, it is proper to emphasize those essential aspects which the “theologies of liberation” especially tend to misunderstand or to eliminate, namely: God and true man; the sovereignty of grace; and the true nature of the means of salvation, especially of the Church and the sacraments. One should also keep in mind the true meaning of ethics in which the distinction between good and evil is not relativized, the real meaning of sin, the necessity for conversion, and the universality of the law of fraternal love. One needs to be on guard against the politicization of existence which, misunderstanding the entire meaning of the Kingdom of God and the transcendence of the person, begins to sacralize politics and betray the religion of the people in favor of the projects of the revolution. …

The words of Paul VI in his “Profession of Faith”, express with full clarity the faith of the Church, from which one cannot deviate without provoking, besides spiritual disaser, new miseries and new types of slavery.
“We profess our faith that the Kingdom of God, begun here below in the Church of Christ, is not of this world, whose form is passing away, and that its own growth cannot be confused with the progress of civilization, of science, and of human technology, but that it consists in knowing ever more deeply the unfathomable riches of Christ, to hope ever more strongly in things eternal, to respond ever more ardently to the love of God, to spread ever more widely grace and holiness among men. …”
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Luke6_37 said:
I can recall when Liberation Theology was marginalized as leftist - glad to see times have changed!
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Liberation Theology has now receded far enough into the past to be perceived as no longer a threat to the status quo.
 
Just to be clear, Oscar Romero was shot celebrating Mass, after speaking out against violence. He is a martyr for the faith.
 
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As to St. Paul VI, there have been several critics of recent papal canonizations, as it really does seem a little like a club initiation. I think it important to remember that almost all the popes were canonized in the first four hundred years of the Church. It should be no surprise that the one we call Holy Father be canonized in this century. Globalization has led to better information about these people and some outstanding popes.

I do not know much about the personal life of the earlier ones, but I also have affinity for Pope Leo XIII, who was not canonized.
 
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As to St. Paul VI, there have been several critics of recent papal canonizations, as it really does seem a little like a club initiation. I think it important to remember that almost all the popes were canonized in the first four hundred years of the Church. It should be no surprise that the one we call Holy Father be canonized in this century. Globalization has led to better information about these people and some outstanding popes.

I do not know much about the personal life of the earlier ones, but I also have affinity for Pope Leo XIII, who was not canonized.
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Pope Leo XIII should be made a Doctor of the Church!
 
LOL!

I kind of feel the same way for Pope Paul VI for Humanae Vitae, and even more so for St. John Paul the Great for his Theology of the Body. I guess being Pope assumes a significant teaching role.
 
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Yeah, if I had to guess which Pope from John XXIII to Francis would be made a Doctor I would put my money with John Paul the Great. Paul VI wrote the incredibly important Humanae Vitae but that was all he wrote. Benedict wrote a lot and he was a genius but John Paul II, I think, had much more of an impact with his writing.
 
Luke6_37 said:
I can recall when Liberation Theology was marginalized as leftist - glad to see times have changed!
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I could not care less about leftist or rightist. We have here an Archbishop who was gunned down in the middle of saying Mass for speaking out against death squads and terror and torture. If that’s not a saint, I don’t know what is.
Praise God that he is finally being canonized. He was very brave.
 
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Luke6_37:
I can recall when Liberation Theology was marginalized as leftist - glad to see times have changed!
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I could not care less about leftist or rightist. We have here an Archbishop who was gunned down in the middle of saying Mass for speaking out against death squads and terror and torture. If that’s not a saint, I don’t know what is.
Praise God that he is finally being canonized. He was very brave.
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I agree, but his cause was delayed because those on the political right associated him with LT.
 
They were saints in the first centuries because they were martyred. The recent canonizations are designed ultimately to canonize Vatican II.
 
I am simply repeating what I’ve been reading in the media about it. For example,

“Romero’s road to sainthood has been a long one, reportedly stalled over his adherence to liberation theology, a movement that arose in Latin American beginning around 1960, but that had fallen out of favor with the Vatican by the time of Pope John Paul II, who was pontiff from 1978 until 2005.”

 
Romero, if canonized this year, will be among the fastest canonizations in history…though that “record” is getting easier and easier to beat as the number of saints produced in Rome multiples and multiples.
 
Fastest? It’s been 30 years!
The man was murdered celebrating Mass, he is a Martyr, this canonization should have happened long ago.
 
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I agree, but his cause was delayed because those on the political right associated him with LT.
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Another ludicrous assumption by you Luke. Please back up this nonsense with some fact. Please don’t just give us someone else’s opinion like you usually do!
 
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I am simply repeating what I’ve been reading in the media about it. For example,

“Romero’s road to sainthood has been a long one, reportedly stalled over his adherence to liberation theology, a movement that arose in Latin American beginning around 1960, but that had fallen out of favor with the Vatican by the time of Pope John Paul II, who was pontiff from 1978 until 2005.”

Salvadoran Archbishop Oscar Romero, Gunned Down In 1980, Will Become A Saint : The Two-Way : NPR
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“Reported stalled” really Luke this little sentence here with no fact based information to what actually happened over the last 30 years gives you cause to write “I agree, but his cause was delayed because those on the political right associated him with LT.”

It couldn’t have been anything else but Right wing evildoers.
 
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