Jeremiah Wright: We need control

[austenbosten]

I have heard that records show that Barack Obama was a very irregular attender at that church.

I think he associated with that church just a little for the political advantages it gave him.

So, which is worst, to be an unbalanced radical like Rev. Wright, or a political opportunist?

If political opportunists were banned from public office, nearly all them would have to resign!

My take on President Obama is that he is kind of like President Lincoln, with one foot in the Christian faith and one foot out of it, seeing much good in it, yet having real doubts about whether it is really true or not.

When running for the U.S. House of Representatives in 1846 his opponent, a Methodist minister, publicly accused Lincoln of being an atheist. Lincoln printed a handbill which gave this “denial”:

That I am not a member of any Christian church is true; but I have never denied the truth of the Scriptures; and I have never spoken with intentional disrespect of religion in general, or of any denomination of Christians in particular… I do not think I could myself be brought to support a man for office whom I knew to be an open enemy of, or scoffer at, religion.

This included in every biography of Lincoln. Here’s a web source: teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=753

Lincoln was a lawyer. All he really denies is that he has ever publicly criticized religion. If he’d been a Christian, you think he would have said so. For more on Lincoln’s religion, see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_and_religion

So, President Obama may or may not be a Christian. If not, he’d join the ranks of President Lincoln, President Washington (he never of super rarely spoke or wrote of Jesus, only of “God” per his Freemasonic beliefs, President Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, and so on.

But Rev. Wright imbalanced radical he is not. No one says that except for those launching sinfully calumnious attacks on him.

That’s where you lost me. Obama is nothing like those great leaders. :nope:

 

[7_Sorrows]

jeremiah wright seems like a very angry man. very hateful. very bigoted. too bad people that think like he does can’t go find a little spot somewhere else in the world to live and let the rest of us live our lives in peace.

 

[austenbosten]

jeremiah wright seems like a very angry man. very hateful. very bigoted. too bad people that think like he does can’t go find a little spot somewhere else in the world to live and let the rest of us live our lives in peace.

Preferably Cuba or North Korea.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Preferably Cuba or North Korea.

i am not even sure they would be satisfied there. i think they want to create their own utopia. i wonder if there are some african-americans who are offended by what he says. no wonder there is such a high homicide rate in chicago with the likes of jeremiah wright and farrakhan both spewing their hatred in that city.

 

[austenbosten]

i am not even sure they would be satisfied there. i think they want to create their own utopia. i wonder if there are some african-americans who are offended by what he says. no wonder there is such a high homicide rate in chicago with the likes of jeremiah wright and farrakhan both spewing their hatred in that city.

Just about every black Conservative.

Thomas Sowell
Col. Alan West
Herman Cain
Clarence Thomas
Ken Blackwell
JC Watts
Larry Elder
Michael Steele

ect, ect. ect.

 

[aicirt]

Because he was almost never in attendance, and the rants didn’t happen that often.

Still, he probably generally knew that Rev. Wright said some wacky things.

Yet, I have heard some Catholic priests and nuns say some wacky things in meetings. Am I responsible for them?

One priest openly denied in a homily that the miracle of the loaves and fishes occurred. I asked him about it after mass, and he got angry at me and stormed off. True story! He’s still a priest (at a different area parish).

My guess is that he is an atheist, based on that and other things he said while at our parish. But it would be a sin for me to state publicly my theory that he is an atheist!

And you confronted the priest and took issue with him never to return to his parish. Am I correct? Good for you. That is exactly what I would have done plus a letter to the bishop. Obama did not.

During Fortnight**** our bishop distributed a summary of 43 things Obama has said or done indicating his hostility toward people of Biblical faith. Here’s some involving Jesus:

Jan. 2011 After a federal law was passes to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U.S.Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court.

April 2009…Georgetown University: Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making a speech.

June 2011 Dept. of Veterans Affairs forbids references to God and Jesus during burial ceremonies at houston National Cemetery.

April 2009 Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican. Of course, the Vatican rejected all three.

This was reprinted with permission of Wallbuilders which also provided references for the remarks and the eight acts of preferentialism for Islam. www.wallbuilders.com

You were able to discern that the parish priest just might be an atheist after hearing one sermon. Check out the above and see what you discern concerning Obama.

 

[St_Francis]

Because he was almost never in attendance, and the rants didn’t happen that often.

Still, he probably generally knew that Rev. Wright said some wacky things.

Yet, I have heard some Catholic priests and nuns say some wacky things in meetings. Am I responsible for them?

One priest openly denied in a homily that the miracle of the loaves and fishes occurred. I asked him about it after mass, and he got angry at me and stormed off. True story! He’s still a priest (at a different area parish).

My guess is that he is an atheist, based on that and other things he said while at our parish. But it would be a sin for me to state publicly my theory that he is an atheist!

I went to a church with a priest like that, and I changed as soon as I was able to. I certainly did not want my children hearing that kind of trash.

However, I am Catholic, in the Bible Belt. In some areas, it is not easy to change churches because there is only one!

 

[St_Francis]

Because he was almost never in attendance, and the rants didn’t happen that often.

Still, he probably generally knew that Rev. Wright said some wacky things.

Actually, it’s very hard to say how often he went. When he was running in Illinois, he said he went every week and that Rev Wright was a personal friend. It wasn’t until the tapes came out that he disassociated himself from the church in which he was married and his daughters baptized.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Actually, it’s very hard to say how often he went. When he was running in Illinois, he said he went every week and that Rev Wright was a personal friend. It wasn’t until the tapes came out that he disassociated himself from the church in which he was married and his daughters baptized.

Personal friend? He considered REv. Wright to be rather of a surrogate father. Wright married him and Michelle and baptised his two daughters. He was a mentor and a close personal friend, almost family to the Obamas. Claiming that he was “just a friend” and he didn’t pay attention to what Wright said in church is just bubkiss and anyone with a lick of common sense knows better.

 

[SamH]

Wright also blasted people who he described as “biscuits” and “sheep dogs” — African Americans raised in the white world.

“Take that baby, him or her away, from the African mother, away from the African community, away from the African experience … and put them Africans over at the breasts of Yale, Harvard, University of Chicago … UCLA or UC-Berkeley,” he said. “Turn them into biscuits. Let them get that alien DNA all up inside their brain and they will turn on their own people in defense of the ones who are keeping their own people under oppression. Sheep dogs.”

Any thoughts?

Perhaps Reversal Wright should ask why so many black children are being raised by white people. Just in my little out of the way community in Nowhere Kansas there are dozens of black children adopted and being raised by white families - many with children of their own.

How is one’s DNA altered by their surroundings?

 

[mary_bobo]

The problem I have is that Obama attended Rev Wright’s ecclesial community for 20 years. It’s not that I think that Obama is somehow *responsible *for Wright’s comments, but that most Protestants tend to easily vote with their feet if they don’t like what they hear, so if Obama stayed, it seems that he wasn’t against what he was hearing. If he was, why would he keep going there?

I see evidence that Obama agrees with Wright in the policies his administration has enacted since he took office and in the rhetoric he uses on the campaign trail. He is all about pitting one class against another and trying to convince people that they are owed something by society.

 

[He_Man]

1. President Obama had denied that this minister was every his “spiritual adviser.” He could be lying, but a good Catholic will not accuse a fellow human being of being a liar unless he has definitive proof of that. Otherwise, the sin of Calumny has been committed. That’s a mortal sin leading to eternal death of the soul unless repented of before leaving life in this world. See: newadvent.org/cathen/03190c.htm
2. President Obama made a speech in 2008 in which made clear that he does not agree with Rev. Wright’s radical views on race and class issues. See: slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2008/03/the_full_obama.html
3. President Obama could be the worst president in history, even worse than President Polk. Who knows. But making President Obama responsible for what Rev. Wright says is like making every conservative politicians responsible for the white racists who have ever had any connection with them (lists of such persons are collected on left wing web sites).
4. Since Rev. Wright is not a Catholic, since President Obama is not a Catholic, and since Rev. Wright made no comment about Catholics or Catholicism, I respectfully submit that this thread seems to have nothing to do with Catholic Answers and seems better suited for a politic-oriented web forum.

Hey. You see this thing at the top:

forums.catholic-questions.org/images/misc_khaki/navbits_start.gif Catholic Answers Forums > Forums > In The News > World News

Guess what? That means this is thw World News Forum. Here we discuss news of the world. Welcome.

Jeremiah Wright seems like a bitter despicable man, and though Obama may have distanced himself, he did attend the Church led by Wright for ocer a decade. You are known by the company you keep.

The liberals on this board complained about Mittens appearing at a fundraiser with a pharmaceutical magnate, and while that prudence of that could be debated, people like you run to detract from pointing out the Wright-Obama connection by hiding behind calumny. Take that to the moral theology forum. The point of this topic was to reinforce what a miserable human being Wright appears to be. If you think otherwise, defend him.

The best thing about Wright is that every time I see him, he reminds me of Heachcliff Huxtable’s dad a lttle.

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[scipio337]

Is there a thread on Romney, Mormonism and Joseph Smith yet?

Yes, but you have to do a search under “tu quoque fallacy” to find it.

 

[SamH]

Because he was almost never in attendance, and the rants didn’t happen that often.

Still, he probably generally knew that Rev. Wright said some wacky things.

Yet, I have heard some Catholic priests and nuns say some wacky things in meetings. Am I responsible for them?

One priest openly denied in a homily that the miracle of the loaves and fishes occurred. I asked him about it after mass, and he got angry at me and stormed off. True story! He’s still a priest (at a different area parish).

My guess is that he is an atheist, based on that and other things he said while at our parish. But it would be a sin for me to state publicly my theory that he is an atheist!

Obama calls this hate filled pastor a “great man” and his “spiritual mentor.” Who should we believe Obama or his apologist?

The “rants” that Wright went on were well known - they were featured in the CDs that the church sold to raise money and attract new parishioners. When the church complained that the media was playing select portions of carefully chosen sermons over 20 years they knew what they were talking about - they had done the careful selections.

 

[markomalley]

Folks,

What I wanted to have a discussion about was not Wright’s rant. That isn’t news.

I wanted to have a discussion on why a left wing rag like Politico would cover such a rant. That’s actually a lot more interesting…

 

[SamH]

Folks,

What I wanted to have a discussion about was not Wright’s rant. That isn’t news.

I wanted to have a discussion on why a left wing rag like Politico would cover such a rant. That’s actually a lot more interesting…

Famous racist with close ties to the president runs his mouth - why wouldn’t they cover it?

 

[aicirt]

Folks,

What I wanted to have a discussion about was not Wright’s rant. That isn’t news.

I wanted to have a discussion on why a left wing rag like Politico would cover such a rant. That’s actually a lot more interesting…

Because it is a left wing rag and feeds to those who think the same as Wright.

 

[St_Francis]

Folks,

What I wanted to have a discussion about was not Wright’s rant. That isn’t news.

I wanted to have a discussion on why a left wing rag like Politico would cover such a rant. That’s actually a lot more interesting…

There have been several instances lately of media *not *covering Obama as if everything he did was so wonderful. There are more than a few people on the left who are not happy with Obama…

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

There are more than a few people on the left who are not happy with Obama…

Count me in that number!

 

[Jeffrey]

Because they don’t hate the white man… so he doesn’t consider them ‘black enough’. Sickening, he is definetly one of the problems regarding race relations.

Perhaps Reversal Wright should ask why so many black children are being raised by white people. Just in my little out of the way community in Nowhere Kansas there are dozens of black children adopted and being raised by white families - many with children of their own.

How is one’s DNA altered by their surroundings?