Jesuit University says support to gay organizations is “the Catholic thing” to do

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Let’s just stop this nonsense. We’re not supposed to be here right now -the mods are going to come down on us for resurrecting the dead.

…also, some of the posters from this thread haven’t posted for years -they may in fact have passed on. 😦
 
Let’s just stop this nonsense. We’re not supposed to be here right now -the mods are going to come down on us for resurrecting the dead.

…also, some of the posters from this thread haven’t posted for years -they may in fact have passed on. 😦
Sorry. 😦 If that is so, may they rest in peace.
 
Why is it that this can happen but lesser evils are squashed on the conservative side?
 
I think they’re awesome!!! You would too if you were in my place. If Jesus was here right now, He would reach out to the LGBT people. Just like He did to the stigmatized of His time. This whole thread is about that, you’re all stigmatizing your brothers & sisters. Its sad. God is compassion and mercy. The Jesuits understand that. Plus who are you to judge, or even slander Priests chosen before hand by Jesus Our Lord??? You might want to go to Confession. God bless!
This is NOT a Jesuit/non-Jesuit issue.

Please do not stereotype religious orders.
 
When exactly did it transpire that 90% of news, speeches, current events, etc. relate to the gay agenda?

I want it to stop… I don’t know how much more I can take!

Seriously, not too long ago, the use of the word “gay” used in this sense was a controversial and somewhat shocking thing to behold. Now, it seems like I can’t read a single internet news site, watch the news, or listen to talk radio without there being some story regarding gays in some fashion or another. And now it’s become a daily issue within the Church.

I don’t want to sound apocalyptic, but when the this is even up for debate within the Catholic Church, it is not a good sign of the times we are in.
I feel the same way. The ‘gay agenda’ seems to have taken over all our political discourse (including our delegation to the Olympics in Sochi). Add that to the contraceptive mandate, and I feel like this country should be re-named, ‘The United States of Sexual Freedom’.
 
Why is it that this can happen but lesser evils are squashed on the conservative side?
Please explain? To start off I do not believe sexual orientation other then heterosexual, or gender identity disorder are not evil, but part of God’s divine plan for us.
 
Please explain? To start off I do not believe sexual orientation other then heterosexual, or gender identity disorder are not evil, but part of God’s divine plan for us.
Sexual disorders are only part of what God allows, not part of his plans. They, like other illnesses and disorders, entered the world with the sin of Adam and Eve. God does not want someone to suffer from homosexuality any more than he wants someone to have cancer or blindness or to be born with a disfigurement.
 
I think they’re awesome!!! You would too if you were in my place. If Jesus was here right now, He would reach out to the LGBT people. Just like He did to the stigmatized of His time. This whole thread is about that, you’re all stigmatizing your brothers & sisters. Its sad. God is compassion and mercy. The Jesuits understand that. Plus who are you to judge, or even slander Priests chosen before hand by Jesus Our Lord??? You might want to go to Confession. God bless!
Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and do not sin again.”
John 8:7
 
Sexual disorders are only part of what God allows, not part of his plans. They, like other illnesses and disorders, entered the world with the sin of Adam and Eve. God does not want someone to suffer from homosexuality any more than he wants someone to have cancer or blindness or to be born with a disfigurement.
Do you believe gender identity disorder is a medical condition and that it should be treated as such, with medications, surgery etc.???
 
Isaiah 43: “You are precious in my sight.” Ephesians 2:10 “You are God’s handiwork.” I believe God sent me different to help the Church understand people like me. And if its God’s will you will not only hear from on this website. I’m only 22 years old and have a lifetime of work ahead of me, si Dios quiere Y Maria Santisima!
 
Do you believe gender identity disorder is a medical condition and that it should be treated as such, with medications, surgery etc.???
It doesn’t matter what I “think”. It’s the science that matters. In some cases, it’s medical, in others it’s genetic, in others it’s psychological and in still others the cause is unknown. The treatment should be appropriate to the cause and to many other factors. Surgery should be, as the Church teaches, a last option and only used in severe cases as a way to relieve extreme distress.
 
It doesn’t matter what I “think”. It’s the science that matters. In some cases, it’s medical, in others it’s genetic, in others it’s psychological and in still others the cause is unknown. The treatment should be appropriate to the cause and to many other factors. Surgery should be, as the Church teaches, a last option and only used in severe cases as a way to relieve extreme distress.
I agree. It is such severe distress that the only option for relief is Sex Reassignment Surgery, and Hormone Replacement Therapy. I respect everybody’s point of view, let us all remember that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
Please explain? To start off I do not believe sexual orientation other then heterosexual, or gender identity disorder are not evil, but part of God’s divine plan for us.
What you believe is contrary to your faith. How do you reconcile that?
 
It has to do with the promotion of the idea that everyone can do whatever they want sexually. If homosexual sex is justified then contraception, abortion, adultery, fornication, beastiality, masturbation, polygamy, child-adult relations, pornography. lust and everything else can be ok also. No limits on fun as long as nobody is being hurt. Since 90%+ of adults are involved in one or more of these activities, it’s difficult not to promote homosexuality in an effort to spread “kindness”.
Someone would be hurt in abortion or in adult-child relations, so those would be out under the “don’t hurt anyone” idea. But “it can’t be wrong unless you hurt someone” teaching is what I heard a Jesuit priest lecture on approvingly at a Berkeley conference sometime back.
 
Someone would be hurt in abortion or in adult-child relations, so those would be out under the “don’t hurt anyone” idea. But “it can’t be wrong unless you hurt someone” teaching is what I heard a Jesuit priest lecture on approvingly at a Berkeley conference sometime back.
Definitely I do not support abortion, I’ve actually protested outside planned parenthood. I do consider myself pro life, but I’ve learned so much throughout my life. I stayed away from the Church for many years. Once I returned I found myself in the conflict of choosing being myself or my faith. I even considered changing, but that would make me unhappy. I go back to when I started puberty. My body was developing male, and my mind female. I felt heartbroken. One time I was going to get my hormones taken away, and I considered overdosing. God loves me so much, I wouldn’t be this way if it wasn’t part of His plan for me. Who would choose to be this way?
 
What you believe is contrary to your faith. How do you reconcile that?
I truly believe Jesus is present in the Eucharist. I frequently go to Confession (maybe to frequently…). I am considered medically and legally female. My heart believes that too. For the past couple months I chose to follow what the Church says about living a chaste life. I even considered changing who I am. That would be being untrue to myself. I’ve made the difficult choice of living my life as any other 22 year old Catholic female would. And I’ve never been more happy.
 
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