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Ah, yes, maybe you are referring to the Jesus in your Quran. The Quran Jesus certainly have no power.No Muhammad(saw) was not sent by Jesus(as) as Jesus(as) does not have the power to send prophets.
Ah, yes, maybe you are referring to the Jesus in your Quran. The Quran Jesus certainly have no power.No Muhammad(saw) was not sent by Jesus(as) as Jesus(as) does not have the power to send prophets.
Your Allah has no gender! Not He, and not She. Maybe “It”?One individual is either male or female. Allah(GOD) is above all of that, he is neither male nor female.
This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: **Thou wast not with them **
Originally Posted by swariffin:
**The Holy Quran : Chapter 5: Al-Ma’idah المَائدة **Please quote what is written without omission, and you may present your interpretation. No matter how good or bad you defend your interpretation, is does not matter. In that case, that is an adult way to have a discussion. You have the right to believe anything, and no compulsion for you to accept ours. But, at first, you must be fair
Yes, He does! Numerous times.
Perhaps this will help you:
First, if you think Jesus was a Muslim, you are the worst kind of fool. Jesus was the ultimate Jew.
Second, if you think Jesus would ahev supported Muhammed and his methodology, you are badly mistaken. Jesus would not have EVER called for anyone’s death.
Third, if you think that Jesus never established himself as God, you are not reading the Gospels. It is clear that he did.
Give me ONE miracle, other then the Qur’an that proves Muhammed was who he claimed to be. ONE.
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Allah knows best and any error is that of my own. Allah is saying: You weren’t there but I will reveal to you that which happened?
No Muhammad(saw) was not sent by Jesus(as) as Jesus(as) does not have the power to send prophets.
Only God sends prophets right? well Jesus says He sends prophets after Him ( one proof that Jesus is not a “mere prophet”. Second, if Jesus did not send Muhammad, then Muhammad is no prophet. Third, Jesus has all the power on earth and in heaven. Make sure you read the gospels if you want to discuss about Jesus, because you surely missed that He sends prophets.
The prophet said in OT is said to be from the BRETHEN of the israelites i.e Ishmaelites, for Issac and Ishmael were brothers both coming from Ibrahim(Abraham).
what if a religious sheikh came to a bunch of other sheikhs and said : i am the rahman the raheem…None of these statements say “JESUS SAID I AM GOD” yet they are man’s account of what they assume Jesus to be.
If this is all that you got, the information on Jesus is miserably scarce in the Quran.**The Holy Quran : Chapter 5: Al-Ma’idah المَائدة **
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alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=5&verse=60
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.
Thanks
I own a Qu’ran, because I need to know my enemy. My enemy is Muhammad, the anti-Christ.Sorry I don’t own a bible because everything I need to know is in Qur’an. I thought there was something you had off the top of your head. Is it true that you guys believe that Jesus(peace be upon him) was born of Mary(peace be upon her) and another fella named Joesph?
what if a religious sheikh came to a bunch of other sheikhs and said : i am the rahman the raheem…
Is he pretending to be Allah or is he not? yes he is, although he did not say I am Allah.
Besides, if we corrupt scriptures, why on earth didn’t we insert this phrase that all Muslims are looking for? and if it exists, will you believe it? there are apocryphas that say explicitely Jesus is God, yet we reject them, why if they “serve” our corrupt and deceitful belief?
Well no, Jesus did not say “i am God”, but he said He is the alpha and omega, He is the resurrection and life, He gives peace the world does not give, He send prophets, He gives wisdom, He knows the hearts and minds of men, He has all power on earth and in heaven, He is the Judge, Whatver the Father does, He does likewise, he and the Father are One, He is eternal, He is the Lord of David, ecc.
If you think a mere human can utter these words, it means you have absolutely no clue neither about the OT, nor about any Biblical prophet, nor about what blasphemy is if Jesus is not who He said He is.
So instead of saying that Jesus did not claim divinity, better do what all your brothers in Islam say, that all of the NT is corrupt, which results in saying that God does not preserve His words, that God isn’t neither faithful, nor serious, nor has any power over humans and maybe you will be able to dig out from earth the gospel that all Christians had when Muhammad asked them to abide by it, and which miraculously disappeared off the planet after Muhammad.
Apparently you don’t know too much about islam because I’ve never heard any Sheikh or student of knowledge following the right path say they are Ar-Rahman, Ar-Raheem for those are attributes and names of Allah only. DO YOUR RESEARCH? poor example on your part
what if = suppose
so please re-read my post and pay attention to “what if”.
Just because something is in the NT doesn’t not mean I’m not familar with it. I am a revert from Christianty and come from a large christian family so I know what the gospels teach.
** Dear Muslimah727, thank you for your posts. You seem to have good knowledge. May Allah bless you**.No Muhammad(saw) was not sent by Jesus(as) as Jesus(as) does not have the power to send prophets. God sent Muhammad just as he sent Jesus, Moses, Noah, Enoch, etc. etc.
The prophet said in OT is said to be from the BRETHEN of the israelites i.e Ishmaelites, for Issac and Ishmael were brothers both coming from Ibrahim(Abraham).
That is true! And worse, the Quran Jesus is only fiction. A "scare crow" to deceive Christians into thinking that Muslims believe in “love of enemies” just as the true Jesus does. In reality, the Quran teaches to consider Christians and Jews as their enemies.If this is all that you got, the information on Jesus is miserably scarce in the Quran.
One of what He tried to teach the people is humility. He would have contradicted His own teachings if ever He said what sinful men would have said.J
Jesus never called himself God as I mentioned in a previous post.
Originally Posted by swariffin:
The Holy Quran : Chapter 5: Al-Ma’idah المَائدةPlease quote what is written without omission, and you may present your interpretation. No matter how good or bad you defend your interpretation, is does not matter. In that case, that is an adult way to have a discussion. You have the right to believe anything, and no compulsion for you to accept ours. But, at first, you must be fair
Therefore you lied here in this forum when you made the statement in the following conversation?Just because something is in the NT doesn’t not mean I’m not familar with it. I am a revert from Christianty and come from a large christian family so I know what the gospels teach.
Hi. Peace be with you.
For starter, you can read the Bible in Mathew 27, Mark 15, Luke 23 and John 19; then refer to corresponding teaching from the Quran and you will notice the difference. There are more but in the chapters that I’ve given you it will not be hard for you to figure out what I was trying to say.
God bless you.
Sorry I don’t own a bible because everything I need to know is in Qur’an. I thought there was something you had off the top of your head. Is it true that you guys believe that Jesus(peace be upon him) was born of Mary(peace be upon her) and another fella named Joesph?
So, the Quran fiction continues…The Holy Quran : Chapter 5: Al-Ma’idah المَائدة
[5:71] لَقَدۡ أَخَذۡنَا مِيثَـٰقَ بَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ وَأَرۡسَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡہِمۡ رُسُلاً۬ۖ ڪُلَّمَا جَآءَهُمۡ رَسُولُۢ بِمَا لَا تَهۡوَىٰٓ أَنفُسُہُمۡ فَرِيقً۬ا ڪَذَّبُواْ وَفَرِيقً۬ا يَقۡتُلُونَ
[5:71] Surely, We took a covenant from the children of Israel, and We sent Messengers to them. But every time there came to them a Messenger with what their hearts desired not, they treated some as liars, and some they sought to kill.
[5:72] وَحَسِبُوٓاْ أَلَّا تَكُونَ فِتۡنَةٌ۬ فَعَمُواْ وَصَمُّواْ ثُمَّ تَابَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ ثُمَّ عَمُواْ وَصَمُّواْ ڪَثِيرٌ۬ مِّنۡہُمۡۚ وَٱللَّهُ بَصِيرُۢ بِمَا يَعۡمَلُونَ
[5:72] And they thought there would be no punishment, so they became blind and deaf. But Allah turned to them in mercy; yet again many of them became blind and deaf; and Allah is Watchful of what they do.
[5:73] لَقَدۡ ڪَفَرَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ هُوَ ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَۖ وَقَالَ ٱلۡمَسِيحُ يَـٰبَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ ٱعۡبُدُواْ ٱللَّهَ رَبِّى وَرَبَّڪُمۡۖ إِنَّهُ ۥ مَن يُشۡرِكۡ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدۡ حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيۡهِ ٱلۡجَنَّةَ وَمَأۡوَٮٰهُ ٱلنَّارُۖ وَمَا لِلظَّـٰلِمِينَ مِنۡ أَنصَارٍ۬
[5:73] Indeed they are disbelievers who say, ‘Surely, Allah is none but the Messiah, son of Mary,’ whereas the Messiah himself said, ‘O children of Israel, worship Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord.’ Surely, whoso associates partners with Allah, him has Allah forbidden Heaven, and the Fire will be his resort. And the wrongdoers shall have no helpers.
[5:74] لَّقَدۡ ڪَفَرَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ ثَالِثُ ثَلَـٰثَةٍ۬ۘ وَمَا مِنۡ إِلَـٰهٍ إِلَّآ إِلَـٰهٌ۬ وَٲحِدٌ۬ۚ وَإِن لَّمۡ يَنتَهُواْ عَمَّا يَقُولُونَ لَيَمَسَّنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِنۡهُمۡ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ
[5:74] They are surely disbelievers who say, ‘Allah is the third of three;’ there is no God but the One God. And if they do not desist from what they say, a grievous punishment shall surely befall those of them that disbelieve.
[5:75] أَفَلَا يَتُوبُونَ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَيَسۡتَغۡفِرُونَهُ ۥۚ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٌ۬ رَّحِيمٌ۬
[5:75] Will they not then turn to Allah and beg His forgiveness, while Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful?
[5:76] مَّا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ۬ قَدۡ خَلَتۡ مِن قَبۡلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُ ۥ صِدِّيقَةٌ۬ۖ ڪَانَا يَأۡڪُلَانِ ٱلطَّعَامَۗ ٱنظُرۡ ڪَيۡفَ نُبَيِّنُ لَهُمُ ٱلۡأَيَـٰتِ ثُمَّ ٱنظُرۡ أَنَّىٰ يُؤۡفَكُونَ
[5:76] The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a Messenger; surely, Messengers like unto him had indeed passed away before him. And his mother was a truthful woman. They both used to eat food. See how We explain the Signs for their good, and see how they are turned away.
[5:77] قُلۡ أَتَعۡبُدُونَ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ مَا لَا يَمۡلِكُ لَڪُمۡ ضَرًّ۬ا وَلَا نَفۡعً۬اۚ وَٱللَّهُ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلۡعَلِيمُ
[5:77] Say, ‘Will you worship beside Allah that which has no power to do you harm or good?’ And it is Allah Who is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
[5:78] قُلۡ يَـٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡڪِتَـٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِى دِينِڪُمۡ غَيۡرَ ٱلۡحَقِّ وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوٓاْ أَهۡوَآءَ قَوۡمٍ۬ قَدۡ ضَلُّواْ مِن قَبۡلُ وَأَضَلُّواْ ڪَثِيرً۬ا وَضَلُّواْ عَن سَوَآءِ ٱلسَّبِيلِ
[5:78] Say, ‘O People of the Book! exceed not the limits in the matter of your religion unjustly, nor follow the evil inclinations of a people who went astray before and caused many to go astray, and who have strayed away from the right path.’
[5:79] لُعِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ ڪَفَرُواْ مِنۢ بَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ عَلَىٰ لِسَانِ دَاوُ ۥدَ وَعِيسَى ٱبۡنِ مَرۡيَمَۚ ذَٲلِكَ بِمَا عَصَواْ وَّڪَانُواْ يَعۡتَدُونَ
[5:79] Those amongst the children of Israel who disbelieved were cursed by the tongue of David, and of Jesus, son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and used to transgress.
[5:80] ڪَانُواْ لَا يَتَنَاهَوۡنَ عَن مُّنڪَرٍ۬ فَعَلُوهُۚ لَبِئۡسَ مَا ڪَانُواْ يَفۡعَلُونَ
[5:80] They did not prohibit one another from the iniquity which they committed. Evil indeed was that which they used to do. ۔
alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=5&verse=70
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.
Thanks