I think what he is saying is now that he died and resurrected he does not breathe because none of us will have to breathe when we are resurrected at the Final Judgment. When he was on earth I think he would have breathed because he had not yet died and resurrected. He did this because he chose to be a human and humans breathe.
I like this explanation, thank you.Scripture tells us clearly that the resurrected Jesus breathed before the ascension.
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. (John 20:22)
Jesus’ breath is the Holy Spirit. The word spirit comes from the Latin word spiritus which means breath.
But is there air in heaven? Or does the resurrected and glorified Jesus need to breathe actual air? Consider that the resurrected and glorified Jesus was able to walk through walls (upper room) and appear and disappear at will (road to Emmaus). The resurrected and glorified Jesus was able to transcend the laws of physics, time and space. He even did that before he was resurrected and glorified when he walked on water. So does Jesus need to breathe? I guess not if he doesn’t want to. Maybe he only breathes on Tuesdays when he feels like it.
I like to breathe, especially at the end of a good, hard run.
-Tim-
And, apparently, hasn’t used his resurrected body since he ascended to heaven right? That’s 2,000 years and counting that he hasn’t needed or even used his resurrected body. So it’s just waiting to be used. Interesting.
Well, why have lungs in heaven if he doesn’t need them or even use them?
Maybe there are different uses for bodies in heaven that we don’t even know about!? Wouldn’t that be great? But on some level I do not understand why there needs to be a “use” for a body? What is the use for our bodies here on earth? They are gifts from God that probably help us physically relate better to other human beings but what kind of “use” are you looking for Jesus to have for his body?
Ok, then why have lungs at all? Why have any internal organs in fact?
So most of the time Jesus doesn’t breath and doesn’t need his lungs or heart but every once in a while he starts them up because he thinks it’s fun? I know you’re saying you don’t know but I’m not sure I’m following this logic, even if it’s just supposing.
I think we already explained why he chose to have lungs and other organs. He wanted to become one of us…we have lungs and organs. He did not choose to have lungs because he needed them, he chose that to help out his creatures that he made.
My point exactly from the OP. Thank you. It’s superfluous.
Hello Vic. Glenda here.
Not really. You gave a reason for having a physical body which you said is for use later at some point. And the reason you gave is to relate to us in the future. I understand how hands and arms would help (kind of), but what would internal organs do?
How does him having lungs help us exactly?
Sorry but no. He wouldn’t need internal organs in order to interact with us.
Okay, wouldn’t it be kind of weird if when the soldiers cut his side open nothing came out…no blood? And they didn’t see his flesh or maybe even an organ had they punctured that far? They would be a little curious right? He became exactly like us because he was fully human and fully divine. If he did not have internal organs he would not have been fully human. He could not have come to earth truly as man if he did not have all the parts necessary to be considered a man. One point to make is that Jesus suffered. In the garden of Gethsemane he was so stressed about his impending death that he sweated out blood…you need internal body parts to do that. He was beat and whipped and you need body parts, including organs to feel that pain. To have a fully human experience of pain and suffering. Had he been an empty vessel I doubt he would have experienced this pain and suffering as retribution for our sins.
No, it is not superfluous.
Can you give me a couple of examples?
Well that’s my point exactly, though. If he doesn’t need it, it’s superfluous.
You’re missing the point. I’m not talking about his pre-resurrection body.
Hi glendab. Yes I know you like to just insult me instead of debating the points at hand. Again, I need to remind you, it’s an apologetics forum. If you feel my OP is insulting why not just ignore me instead of getting yourself all worked up?
What premise is faulty exactly? And why?
But this is merely asserting what you said before. You didn’t answer my questions. Here they are again:
You also said, maybe he breaths on Tuesdays if he feels like it. So my response was:
So, probably best not just to keep asserting something without addressing my points. Makes your argument look awfully weak.
Well it’s good to know you are not talking about his pre-resurrection body, you did not make that clear at first.
Travis, the title of the thread is “Jesus’ Resurrected Body”.
None, which you mostly seem to agree with since you said the point is physically relating to us which won’t happen till the end of the world.
Such as?
Can you give me a couple of examples of this?
That’s all? He could accomplish that with a video. So again, it appears to be pretty much superfluous.
I’m sure you wouldn’t go that far but you seem fairly close. He may, repeat may, want to use it for this or that but certainly isn’t required.
