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The Quran is full of contradictions and states the earth is flat!
Circular reasoning as we’ve stated countless times before! Muhammad is proof for the Quran and the Quran is proof for Muhammad!
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The Quran is full of contradictions and states the earth is flat!
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Matthew 28
16 And the eleven disciples went into Galilee, unto the mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And seeing them they adored: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. 19 **Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. **
18 “All power”… See here the warrant and commission of the apostles and their successors, the bishops and pastors of Christ’s church. He received from his Father all power in heaven and in earth: and in virtue of this power, he sends them (even as his Father sent him, St. John 20. 21) to teach and disciple, not one, but all nations; and instruct them in all truths: and that he may assist them effectually in the execution of this commission, he promises to be with them, not for three or four hundred years only, but all days, even to the consummation of the world. How then could the Catholic Church ever go astray; having always with her pastors, as is here promised, Christ himself, who is the way, the truth, and the life. St. John 14.
drbo.org/chapter/47028.htm
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these must fall uder the category of “corruption of God’s words”…otherwise Muhammad has no place, except, again, by claiming God’s words (that His word are pure gold standing for ever) is a lie.
But lest this lame excuse is really given, maybe not by Amy but others, we must remember that they can question God’s truthfulness but they cannot deny history, the history which proves the disciples preached gentiles in different coutries…
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No. Pay close attention. Muhammad is the Messenger of God–the Qur’an proved it.aha sister,muhammed the prophet, quran proved it and quran is the word of god,muhammed proved it.lol.what a nice and easy solution you gavepls sister don’t give up ur rationality.and i believe jesus as god because he incarnet to the world for our salvation&for fulfilment of the prophecy of OT(if i am wrong then christian friends pls correct me.i am still learning about christianity).the Word of god became flesh.and he died for our sin.
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The Qur’an is the Word of God. The Qur’an proves it!
How do you know Jesus did what you said? (incarnet isn’t a word and I’m not sure what you meant) Were you there? How do you know he fulfilled prophecies? How do you know he died for your sins? Does that make sense that a JUST GOD would make one person die for the sins of someone else? Or did God tell you that in a dream or something?
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lol.really its very laughable prove&muslims always claim it as the authentic prove.
.believe me i am still laughing.
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Sister Amy,
This is one point that we seem to get hung up on every time. The Qur’an is the Word of God because the Qur’an says it is. Muhammed is the prophet because he brought the Qur’an that says he is the prophet.
Is this not circular logic?
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So which is it? Jesus said he was sent ONLY to the Jews. And Jesus told his disciples NOT to go to gentiles.no He was provoking her faith. When a gentile leader asked Him to heal his son, He did not tell him He can’t since He is only for Jews but granted his wish on the spot, because of his faith
So which is it? If it’s not true what he said, wouldn’t that make him a liar?
I’m not making fun of your intelligence but apparently you are. It’s a remarkably simple concept–especially for you since you know what the word “muslim” means.
Of course the deen Islam does exist in the Bible. It was the deen of Abraham, Isaac and Ishamel, Jacob and his sons! The teaching of Moses, the teaching of Jesus, the teaching of Muhammad is the saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.
I’ll tell you what it is, too.
What Moses taught: THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE Deut 6:4
What Jesus taught: THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE Mark 12:29
What Muhammad taught: HE IS GOD (ALLAH), THE ONE Qur’an 112:1
All three taught belief in One God, submission to One God, obedience to Him, and living righteously. That is ISLAAM!
Their DEEN was the same, but their LAWS were different.
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That’s Islamic “logic” for you!:hypno:lol.really its very laughable prove&muslims always claim it as the authentic prove.
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So was he LYING or did he just not MEAN what he SAID?
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sister amy,if quran prove that its the word of god then pls show me where?because quran claimed itself that its a doubtless book?now answer me why quran needed to declared itself as undoubtable book?was quran not sure about its purity?thats why it claimed that it is the doubtless book?i posted the question to another thread but this thread has been closed by moderator.so you couldn’t answer this question
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No, what you typed is a very subtle distortion of what I said.
I didn’t say that Muhammad is a prophet because the Qur’an says he is. I said that Muhammad is a prophet because the Qur’an proves he is.
And the Qur’an isn’t the Word of God just because it says it is, but because it proves it is.
The Qur’an is the proof.
How else can you expect people to believe in the Qur’an and reject the Bible? The Qur’an proves itself.
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morning_star777
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yes friend this is a new type logic named islamic logic.hehe.That’s Islamic “logic” for you!:hypno:
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illogical logic
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yes friend this is a new type logic named islamic logic.hehe.
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at least Amy, at least, we have God’s words to back our belief up, in addition to what Jesus taught, and the tradition. Yes there is faith, but at least give us the credit that it backed up by previous scriptures as well.
What you have is a book that opposes previous ones, without any back up. Yes you have faith, but Allah did not give you any back up. On the contrary, he tricked us by telling us his words are corrupt yet left the teachings that his words cannot be corrupt.
As to Jesus’ death, you must know by now that He gave it willingly, He was not forced…suffered? yes, was in agony? yes, but willingly…but whatever reason we might give, even if i tell you He allowed Himself to die in order to prove He is the Messiah, not a false one, you will still reject it, but to believe in WHAT instead? someone else dying? mass hallucination? drugs rampant among people? illusion? trick?
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And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur’an) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful.
islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Miracle/ijaz.html
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sister amy,pls don’t go further.ur quran proved that muhamed is prophet,ur quran prove that 2/3+1/6+1/6+1/8=1(inheritance law;sura4:11,12.what a terrible mathematical error),ur quran proved that we trinity is father+mother+son(sura5:116)…should i continue?
,pls don’t go further.ur quran proved that muhamed is prophet,ur quran prove that 2/3+1/6+1/6+1/8=1(inheritance law;sura4:11,12.what a terrible mathematical error),ur quran proved that we trinity is father+mother+son(sura5:116)…should i continue?
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