Jewish responses to Jesus as the Messiah

[Della]

I just know that the Torah was given to Moses by God personally on Mount Sinai and then he literally spoke to the Jews.

IOW, you accept this because you want to. There’s no evidence of this any more than there is evidence for the Virgin Birth. We believe these things because we trust the source from which we got them–the Sacred Tradition of Judeo-Christianity.

Jesus came around and went against a lot of the Torah and told the people they didn’t have to follow it because he had a “new covenant”.

That’s simply not true. Jesus said not one word of the Law would pass away:
Matt.5[18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

Luke.16 [17] But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one dot of the law to become void.

God(the spirit in the clouds)hasn’t spoken to his children since.

And you know this because…?

The Torah warned against a dangerous false prophet that would deceit a nation…

And Jesus made ALOT of false prophecies…

shemaantimissionary.tripod.com/id8.html

jesuswasafalseprophet.blogspot.com/

If the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord and the oracle does not come true, that oracle was not spoken by the Lord. (Deut. 18:22)

I doubt a false prophet would be a messiah.

Each of these has a response. There are too many to go into in one thread. If Jesus were a false prophet I would not follow him, either. Simply because we don’t understand how and when his prophecies are to be fulfilled, if indeed they haven’t been, doesn’t make Jesus a false prophet. If that were true, the whole of the Messianic prophecies of the OT could be said to be false considering no one, to the Jewish objectors, has come along in nearly 6000 years to fulfill them.

I just can’t believe that Jesus founded a one, holy, catholic (universal) united Church that has never wavered from teaching the same teachings for 2000 years is all a big, fat lie. It just doesn’t make any sense. This is the mark of the Holy Spirit–that Christ’s Church is the same and yet new, alive and yet old, true and yet ever responding to new cultures and new ideas, and thriving. If the Holy Spirit isn’t in it, where is He?

 

[Dorothy]

Good links. I’m not able to listen to the audio right now but the other link is cool. I wa reading the conversion stories and I’ve actually met one of the people whose stories are there

However my questions remain unanswered.

I’m with Bishop: Jesus did not fulfill all the prophecies that He was supposed to so… He’s not the Messiah.

But I was thinking. If Jesus isn’t the Messiah who is?

I mean maybe the Jews are right and we’re still waiting… I don’t know.

What’s some good insight to all this?

cooldude, I have a suggestion. Are you familiar with the lives of some of our most famous saints? I know that reading about their lives, whether they be autobiographies or biographies, has always inspired me and strengthened my faith.

I have read many of your posts in different threads and it seems that you sound so enthused about your faith in one post, and then in another thread you are seriously questioning your faith because of a few sentences someone else said.

Are you interested in practicing and nourishing your faith? May the Lord lead you on your journey according to His will.

 

[coolduude]

No I think ot makes perfect sense. Even the conditional ones (don’t forget that this is trying to reconcile contradictory sounding prophecies).

I don’t believe Jesus was a false prophet. He came to fulfill the laws, not destroy them (His words, not mine). Also, this new covenant of His was hinted at since the fall of Adam of and Eve- the covenant of a Redeemer (Messiah).

He didn’t abolish the Old Law. He actually fixed them (‘you have heard it said’… ‘but I say to you…’) if I understand correctly, the Jews amended the Law to their ‘taste’, in other words to make it more practical (i.e., divorce). Jesus came and changed it back to how it was supposed to be. And if you think about it, Jesus’ additions to the law (or changes. Whatever you want to call it) are right in line with God’s nature (‘love your neighbor as yourself’). I don’t think Jesus was contradictory to God. He was God.

Now this prophet that will lead Israel astray… I don’t know about that. I don’t know who it could be

But it isn’t Jesus.

 

[Bishop93]

IOW, you accept this because you want to. There’s no evidence of this any more than there is evidence for the Virgin Birth. We believe these things because we trust the source from which we got them–the Sacred Tradition of Judeo-Christianity.

That’s simply not true. Jesus said not one word of the Law would pass away:
Matt.5[18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

Luke.16 [17] But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one dot of the law to become void.

And you know this because…?

Each of these has a response. There are too many to go into in one thread. If Jesus were a false prophet I would not follow him, either. Simply because we don’t understand how and when his prophecies are to be fulfilled, if indeed they haven’t been, doesn’t make Jesus a false prophet. If that were true, the whole of the Messianic prophecies of the OT could be said to be false considering no one, to the Jewish objectors, has come along in nearly 6000 years to fulfill them.

I just can’t believe that Jesus founded a one, holy, catholic (universal) united Church that has never wavered from teaching the same teachings for 2000 years is all a big, fat lie. It just doesn’t make any sense. This is the mark of the Holy Spirit–that Christ’s Church is the same and yet new, alive and yet old, true and yet ever responding to new cultures and new ideas, and thriving. If the Holy Spirit isn’t in it, where is He?

You admit that there is no evidence to support the virgin birth?

Do Christians keep Kosher like Leviticus says?..Jesus wasn’t talking about Jewish Law.

Where else in the Bible did God talk to countless # of people?
Has God parted the clouds and spoke his awesome words of wisdom in our generation?..No.

Jesus said those things cited in my link would happen in HIS generation…It didn’t.

That would be false prophecy and…

If the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord and the oracle does not come true, that oracle was not spoken by the Lord. (Deut. 18:22)

 

[Della]

You admit that there is no evidence to support the virgin birth?

Of course. None of the prophecies of the OT are proof–they are witnesses. The Church doesn’t base it’s beliefs on this verse and that, but on the whole of Jesus life, death and resurrection.

Do Christians keep Kosher like Leviticus says?..Jesus wasn’t talking about Jewish Law.

It is the moral law that is still in force since Jesus fulfilled the Levitical laws. If you look at the Catechism of the Catholic Church it goes in depth into the Ten Commandments, which we are to keep just as the children of Israel were to do.

Where else in the Bible did God talk to countless # of people?
Has God parted the clouds and spoke his awesome words of wisdom in our generation?..No.

The people heard God’s voice in the OT but didn’t necessarily understand the words–they heard thunder while Moses heard words. And wouldn’t God speak to confirm that Jesus was the One longed for since Adam? Why wouldn’t he? Who has told God when and how he can speak?

Jesus said those things cited in my link would happen in HIS generation…It didn’t.

That would be false prophecy and…

If the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord and the oracle does not come true, that oracle was not spoken by the Lord. (Deut. 18:22)

But they were fulfilled. Jesus was speaking of the destruction of the Temple and the fact that the Sanhedrin would reject him:

As that pertains to the Jewish leaders, this judgment came with the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70.

The average student of the Bible does not fully appreciate the judgment that God unleashed upon that generation of Jewish leaders, just as Christ had prophesied. He promised that the second Temple and all of its accompanying rites and privileges would disappear within the lifetimes of those that condemned him to death (cf. Matt. 26:64; Mark 13:2; Luke 21:20–24). Perhaps best known are Christ’s words to his disciples, “They [the Sanhedrin] will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. . . . Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place” (Matt. 24:30, 34).

In his prophetic promise to come in judgment upon his accusers, Jesus drew upon two strains of Old Testament thought. The first is from Daniel, where we are given a visionary snapshot of the response of the world governments to the advent of Christ’s kingdom in the first century. We learn that they will resist like a cornered beast, but the “Son of Man” will emerge victorious. In his victory, the Messiah will come to the Father and be presented with his rightful throne (cf. Dan. 7:13–14).

Some interpreters confuse this coming of the Son of Man in Daniel with the Second Coming, but the context does not allow it. David B. Currie, This Rock Magazine

Naturally Jewish leaders are not going to want to see the Sanhedrin’s rejection of Jesus as the fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecies. The Temple was destroyed and Israel put into even greater bondage within the lifetime of the people of Jesus day. That’s what he was talking about–in prophetic language the people and leaders of his time would understand.

 

[Bishop93]

Of course. None of the prophecies of the OT are proof–they are witnesses. The Church doesn’t base it’s beliefs on this verse and that, but on the whole of Jesus life, death and resurrection.

It is the moral law that is still in force since Jesus fulfilled the Levitical laws. If you look at the Catechism of the Catholic Church it goes in depth into the Ten Commandments, which we are to keep just as the children of Israel were to do.

The people heard God’s voice in the OT but didn’t necessarily understand the words–they heard thunder while Moses heard words. And wouldn’t God speak to confirm that Jesus was the One longed for since Adam? Why wouldn’t he? Who has told God when and how he can speak?

But they were fulfilled. Jesus was speaking of the destruction of the Temple and the fact that the Sanhedrin would reject him:

Naturally Jewish leaders are not going to want to see the Sanhedrin’s rejection of Jesus as the fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecies. The Temple was destroyed and Israel put into even greater bondage within the lifetime of the people of Jesus day. That’s what he was talking about–in prophetic language the people and leaders of his time would understand.

All those quotes were NOT talking about the Temple

How can you say the OT is based on witnesses when God gave it all to Moses on Mount Sinai?..It isn’t witness accounts it’s directly from God.

What IS ALL “witness” accounts is the NT.

God never spoke to confirm Jesus.

aish.com/sp/ph/48943936.html…

God only spoke out loud once…To the Jews at Mount Sinai.

 

[USMCatholic]

All those quotes were NOT talking about the Temple

How can you say the OT is based on witnesses when God gave it all to Moses on Mount Sinai?..It isn’t witness accounts it’s directly from God.

What IS ALL “witness” accounts is the NT.

God never spoke to confirm Jesus.

aish.com/sp/ph/48943936.html…

God only spoke out loud once…To the Jews at Mount Sinai.

Well, Jesus was God, so…
And I hope you’re not forgetting about Matthew 3:17. And the whole rising from the dead thing. Or any of the other signs that Jesus performed, such as the healing of the blind, the casting out of demons, etc etc. All of these were God speaking to us. But no, since it did not occur as it had before, it is to be rejected. Question: should the commandments given on Mt Sinai been rejected because God did not appear to Moses as a burning bush again? Or perhaps Jesus should be rejected because He did not conform to the Jewish people’s expectations of who and what He would be?

 

[Della]

All those quotes were NOT talking about the Temple

I didn’t say they were, did I? They were also about the disaster that was going to befall Israel due to the rebellion Jesus knew was coming. He was trying to give the leaders and the people fair warning of it.

How can you say the OT is based on witnesses when God gave it all to Moses on Mount Sinai?..It isn’t witness accounts it’s directly from God.

Either I expressed myself quite poorly or you are merely skimming my posts, in any case, that’s not at all what I wrote. I was trying to convey to you the fact that the Apostles (thus the Church) didn’t regard Jesus’ fulfillment of the OT prophecies as proof that he was the awaited Messiah, but as a witness to it. As they contemplated the meaning of Jesus’ life, death and resurrection, they saw how Jesus met the prophecies about the Messiah. That’s was my point. A lot of non-Catholics (even non-Catholic Christians) have the mistaken notion that there was some kind of check list for the Messiah. It wasn’t like that at all. It was only after Jesus had ascended into heaven that the writers of the Gospels saw how the OT prophecies were a witness to Jesus. Jesus himself said the Father and the Spirit were his witnesses, not the people. And where is that witness of the Father and the Spirit? In the OT.

What IS ALL “witness” accounts is the NT.

See above.

God never spoke to confirm Jesus.

But he did. At Jesus baptism in the Jordan and on the Mount of Transfiguration.

Matt.3 [17] and lo, a voice from heaven, saying, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”

Matt.12 [18] "Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my Spirit upon him, and he shall proclaim justice to the Gentiles.

Matt.17 [5] He was still speaking, when lo, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.”

Mark.1 [11] and a voice came from heaven, “Thou art my beloved Son; with thee I am well pleased.”

Mark.9 [7] And a cloud overshadowed them, and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is my beloved Son; listen to him.”

God only spoke out loud once…To the Jews at Mount Sinai.

Not according to the those who saw and heard God speak in the NT. We either believe their testimony or we don’t. I do because they were also witnesses to Jesus’ resurrection and ascension into heaven. Either they were telling us what they saw and heard with their own eyes and ears or they were lying. It has to be one or the other.

 

[coolduude]

Not to undermine you, Della, but how do we know that God actually did speak? I mean for all we know the writers are making it up so the Gentiles will believe. ‘oh yeah God DID speak to us! Look! I even heard Him!’ Do you see what I’m saying? I personally think things like that (see verses above) are the least reliable things. Are they reliable? I’m not trying to be sacreligious or anything like that. I just want to know why I should believe…

 

[BenBornAgain]

To understand why we proclaim that Jesus is the awaited Messiah of Israel, you can check this:
The Messiah in the Tanakh
There is also a great talk by Dr Feingold talking about the Jewish claims that Jesus cannot be the Messiah because of unfulfilled prophecies:
The Mystery of Israel and the Church

 

[antunesaa]

I’m with Bishop: Jesus did not fulfill all the prophecies that He was supposed to so… He’s not the Messiah.

Then convert to Judaism.

 

[coolduude]

Then convert to Judaism.

Sorry to offend you.

In the first place, that was speculation. Secondly, I’ve been doing research (did you see my link?) and I’ve confirmed (to myself) that Jesus was the Messiah, although He didn’t fulfill everything at once.

I think I’ll stay Catholic for the time being.

 

[antunesaa]

Sorry to offend you.

In the first place, that was speculation. Secondly, I’ve been doing research (did you see my link?) and I’ve confirmed (to myself) that Jesus was the Messiah, although He didn’t fulfill everything at once.

I think I’ll stay Catholic for the time being.

You did not offend me . I have a heavy Jewish ancestry and I have a deep respect for Judaism. Yet I am Catholic and I am wholeheartedly convinced of the truth of Catholicism. Jewish objections always seem too technical, like when lawyers use minor formal vices in court processes to circumvent the spirit of the law. They concentrate on formal things - like whether Jesus was violating the Law by curing people on Saturdays, or whether He would always do the appropriate Kosher thing - instead of looking at the most important things - whether Jesus founded His Mystical Body or not, whether His message conforms to the messages of the Old Testament or not, whether His prophesies about the destruction of Israel would have important consequences or not, whether He ressurected or not, etc. In the end it all boils down to you believing whether Jesus ressurected from the dead or not.

 

[lelhajj]

Dear fellows,
to you bishop93, specially, who still can not accept the truth of our religion.
I am a doctor and a roman catholic, i am not well versed about all the old testament neither the new one, i am taking my time to read it. But i can tell you the following: i have witnessed a miracle, and certainly it is a miracle, with no medical explanation to cure the cancer of certain person(that i do not want to include here, for personal reasons.If at any point i have doubted the presence of God, which i do not really think so, i have proof of His mighty existence. I am not even the most adequated person to have received such a blessing, but, yes, i did and that is a reinforcement to my faith. I can tell everybody that God, our God exists with no vacilation at all. I know that you as a jew would not believe me or believe us (refering to catholics), but, you better start really looking if what Judaism preaches is really true or not.

 

[JVD]

Here’s a good site to this:
simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewsandjesus/

so as a Christian, how do we respond to these arguments? I must admit that Jesus did fulfill many prophecies, however based on my understading of Judaism the Messiah was to fullfill all the prophecies in one life (in other words no Second Coming). Jesus did not fulfill all the prophecies while he was here on earth so it seems like the Jews have a point.

How do Christians rebut all these arguments? Maybe I’m missing some Biblical stuff so could you guys fill me in here?

Coolduude.

My first comment to this is “WHAT” Jewish authority came up with the laundry list of things the Messiah must accomplish? My second comment is WHAT constitutes a Jew in this day and age? WHO is a Jew - a person who resides in the secular modern state of Israel who believes in 1 of the 3 widely different Jewish sects’ teaching or is he one of the ethnic Jews who might now very well be an atheist and conforms to some of the traditions like putting sea salt on everything to make it kosher or refusing anyone in his family from marrying a Gentile? The point here is that there are NO Jewish religious authorities and spokespersons who can tell us precisely what the Messiah MUST do anymore than there are any two Jews who can agree on what constitutes a Jew anymore.

At the bottom of that why for heaven’s sake would ANYONE trust a Jew to tell them what the Messiah must do when the Jews FOLLOWED AT LEAST TWO POST-CHRISTIAN FALSE MESSIAHS!!!

Don’t get pulled down the cart path of false pedigree. The Jews are not to be considered experts in anything other than in disobedience and falling away. Judging by the fact that the al-Aqsa Mosque sits on the site of the destroyed Jewish Temple (temple Mount) and the fact that there has been no Jewish temple worship for 2,000 years and have followed false messiahs to their own destruction its very clear that the Jews are not in God’s favor and have nothing useful or credible to say to the world anymore. So why take them seriously at all and even waste your breath on strawman arguments that come from false pedigree? Christianity is the new Israel and the Jews that refuse to convert are simply left behind to their errors and should not be consulted with in any Christian matter such as “what the Messiah MUST do”. Baloney!

Jews need to ask why they have been living under a curse for 2,000 years and why they have never really prospered since they turned over Christ for crucifixation. Cause and effect should make the answer to that question more than obvious.

James

 

[crazzeto]

Here’s a good site to this:
simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewsandjesus/

so as a Christian, how do we respond to these arguments? I must admit that Jesus did fulfill many prophecies, however based on my understading of Judaism the Messiah was to fullfill all the prophecies in one life (in other words no Second Coming). Jesus did not fulfill all the prophecies while he was here on earth so it seems like the Jews have a point.

How do Christians rebut all these arguments? Maybe I’m missing some Biblical stuff so could you guys fill me in here?

Coolduude.

First and foremost, one thing to keep in mind is that the Jewish idea of what the Massiah would be has changed considerably over the millenia, in part because Christians were very successful convincing Jews that Jesus was that Messiah. Here is one website that might help, though I think they’re more Protistant than Catholic (unfortunetly).

jewsforjesus.org/

 

[DustyOR]

Christ fulfilled every prophecy in the OT
however, the fact that He did not fulfill THEIR qualifications is the key here. They were looking for a person who would overturn Roman dominance, ie correct all the
wrongs that had been perpetrated on the Jewish people, and re-establish the glory that had been David and Solomon.
Christ did not fulfill that need so He was rejected.
They were blind to what He taught, the many miracles He performed, because He did NOT fulfill what they had visualized.
It is once again the blindness and arrogance of mankind. WE always see God in our own terms, not as He is…
I remember Israel daily in prayer…her safety and her conversion.
God’s first born, the apple of His eye.

 

[chosen_people]

Dear fellows,
to you bishop93, specially, who still can not accept the truth of our religion.
I am a doctor and a roman catholic, i am not well versed about all the old testament neither the new one, i am taking my time to read it. But i can tell you the following: i have witnessed a miracle, and certainly it is a miracle, with no medical explanation to cure the cancer of certain person(that i do not want to include here, for personal reasons.If at any point i have doubted the presence of God, which i do not really think so, i have proof of His mighty existence. I am not even the most adequated person to have received such a blessing, but, yes, i did and that is a reinforcement to my faith. I can tell everybody that God, our God exists with no vacilation at all. I know that you as a jew would not believe me or believe us (refering to catholics), but, you better start really looking if what Judaism preaches is really true or not.

Well this may come as a shock, but medical miracles that reinforce one’s belief in God happen to Jews. Groups like Save a Child’s Heart even help make them happen. Imagine being told all your life about the despicable Jews and Israelis and than having your child’s life saved by them at no expense.

However, Jews are not limited to the field of medicine. Of all the ancient people we alone survive and prosper. Three years after a third of our people were destroyed in the Shoah, we regained our independence over our land. We were invaded by 5 armies, America placed an arms embargo on us, the British actively helped our enemies, not one soldier from the UN was dispatched to help. We could not possibly have survived, but we had ourselves and our eternal covenant with God and the miracle happened.

We are surrounded by a billion enemies but supposedly we are so strong that we are deemed “the aggressor” and the entire world admires the fighting ability of a nation that had not gone to battle and could not defend itself for two thousand years. A miracle?

We Jews make up about two tenths of one per cent of the world’s population. Under normal circumstances you should not even hear about Jews. We have been permitted to become part of the general population for only the last two hundred years. However, somehow we have managed to make a contribution “here and there and to have an impact”. In fact our enemies accuse us of controlling everything. Miracle?

So it may come as a surprise to you , but a lot of Christians I have met over the years claimed that their faith in God was strengthened not despite the Jews but because of the Jews.

 

[jschutzm]

Most arguments I see against the Messiah being Jesus and Jesus being divine come down to buying into that person’s PERSONAL interpretation and authority. Seem very much like the tired old arguments a Protestant would make.

In fact the argument against the Celibacy of the Priesthood IS straight out of Protestantism 101 class.

This is probably because BOTH rejections stem from the same “well I interpret it this way” type of mentality where they take the exact opposite interpretation.
For instance… God becoming MAN, in Christianity says a lot about his compassion, his mercy, his love. In Judaism… it diminishes God.

What stood out to ME from the original link is:

1. Judaism is no more based on direct communication from God then Catholicism is.
   Has God spoken to the Jews, directly from the clouds in over 6,000 years? - NO
   Do modern Jews interpret things for themselves and modify and change things they don’t like - YES (sola scriptura?)
   Does that diminish credibility and the “oneness” that Jews claim – YES
   Is there any central authority in Judaism to keep everyone on the same page? - NO there are different sects, different rabbis teaching different things. Anyone can interpret the Bible for themselves in Judaism and justify their actions. Just like in Protestantism. At least Catholicism has a Magestruim, a central authority as a final interpreter and answer.

Judaism is based mainly on prophets who God spoke directly to… NOT the people themselves. The people believed the Prophets…even though 99% of them never heard God directly.

I find it ironic that a Jewish person used this type of argument and shows that they aren’t being intellectually honest about their faith.

1. Catholicism HAS answered the objections… They are more simple…“He did, not in the way you wanted him to” - That IS an answer. The Jewish arguments seem to take very limited and very human. Very much like God must conform to THEIR ideas and concepts. The OT and NT are both awash with people who have this mentality; failing to realize the truth and heading off in the wrong direction.
2. I think anyone can see that the OT is full of the Jews struggle to follow God and do so consistently and staying true to themselves and their identity. Yet, I find it ironic that they are sooo sure they have the messiah prophesies so clearly and perfectly defined that their is NO room that Christ is NOT the messiah.
3. the whole David line seems like a chicken n egg argument. By JEWISH law… Christ is NOT of the house and line of David because how THEY define it, it must be from a Biological Father’s line. Adoption doesn’t count. This is by THEIR definition and they expect God to conform to THEIR laws. They limit God, they define the terms. As if THEY control who the messiah is. 4a) Hebrew language is very imprecise in how it uses words. In a tribal society, one word can have many meanings. Such is the case with Hebrew. It is convenient that the word which can be interpreted as “virgin” can also be simply used as “young woman” as usually young women or girls are virgins. IF, however the word used in the OT does mean virgin…then by Jewish law… NO ONE can be the messiah as no one can be both virgin AND be of David’s line on the father’s side.
4. I found it interesting that the Jewish argument said that ANY Jew can be the Messiah… it is just that no one has stepped up to do it. SO, there is no FAITH invovled, no TRUST in God… Results speak. The Religion is based on recognizing the Messiah AFTER THE FACT. But wait… the Messiah could have been anyone, But only a person that fits THEIR interpretations and expectations.
   The logical rebuttal is what if they are WRONG about their expectations, their interpretations? THEN it could be anyone… including Jesus. They just might not realize it since they are awaiting certain results.

 

[chosen_people]

Christ fulfilled every prophecy in the OT
however, the fact that He did not fulfill THEIR qualifications is the key here. They were looking for a person who would overturn Roman dominance, ie correct all the
wrongs that had been perpetrated on the Jewish people, and re-establish the glory that had been David and Solomon.
Christ did not fulfill that need so He was rejected.
They were blind to what He taught, the many miracles He performed, because He did NOT fulfill what they had visualized.
It is once again the blindness and arrogance of mankind. WE always see God in our own terms, not as He is…
I remember Israel daily in prayer…her safety and her conversion.
God’s first born, the apple of His eye.

There are six major prophesies or criteria that the Messiah ben David will fulfill. Remarkably the Christian messiah failed to fulfill a single one of these criteria. The non fulfillment of any one of the criteria is conclusive proof in Judaism that the person cannot be the Messiah ben David. Christians made up new criteria which are never mentioned in the Tanach, like belief or faith in the messiah for personal salvation. They invented without any basis in the Tanach that their messiah, who accomplished none of the things that the Messiah ben David is supposed to accomplish, will return to fulfill the things he didn’t do. Of course, under that concept, anyone who ever lived and died could be the Messiah ben David, since you don’t have to fulfill and accomplish anything since you are eventually coming back to do it.